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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I do like the fights in the Bourne films. Yes, MMA looks great. And I've always loved watching jujitsu. Funny really. Gunfights have changed over the years - the way guns are drawn, held (one hand, two hands, one hand held sideways, etc, etc), the noise they make (once, almost every shot had to ricochet; now we have to hear the tinkle of every spent cartridge) - and, likewise, unarmed combat. Judo was once seen as exotic. Nowadays that, and karate, make for a yawner of a film-fight.
That's the thing about film-fights; they ain't real fights. Real streetfights don't tend to look good, and there isn't all that “looks good” dancing around and high kicking stuff if the participants know WTF they're up to. As an example, Judo “looks” dull as fuck, but god help you if you're up against a decent exponent in a street brawl, because as soon as it goes to the ground (and it usually does, sooner or later) you are absolutely butt-fucked. I remember seeing a mate of mine, who used to do several martial arts, getting into one once, outside a chip shop at kicking-out time, after a long evening in the pub; he started by using a lot of Karate-style punching, with a bit of MMA/Jujitsu, but after about 30 seconds of getting nowhere with the other guy (a right nasty looking ape), he just grappled him, threw, and choke-held the guy until he was out. Maybe another 10 seconds, tops. When asked later about the change of style he just said “Drunk. Got bored” :)
It's also worth remembering that Bruce Lee was, first and foremost, a competition fighter, i.e. “real world”, not a display fighter or instructor (although he did teach a great deal too). The “film” style of his was derived from the more outlandish stuff that he thought would look better (and it did).
This is well worth a watch if you haven’t seen it before too:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106770/
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
One thing that I don't think will ever catch on in the films, though, is realistic moves leading to realistic results. It's going to remain rare that a fight between a lead goodie and a lead baddie will be swift; so, no matter how hard a proper roundhouse kick to the head connects, the receiver will still get up afterwards in order to carry on for the required five to ten minutes.
True. As an example, it's very rare that a genuine punch-up lasts longer than about 30 seconds, unless the 2 protagonists are very well trained, very experienced, and very closely matched.
Oh, and this one absolutely cracks me up, but as a display of technique it’s still bob-on :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWvTloOeAY
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