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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 5:41:11 AM   
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I'd forgotten how attractive he was...


Who? Jet Li or Bruce Lee?

Coz that clip was Jet, not Bruce :)

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 6:52:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I loved Grosse Pointe Blank, but when I think fight scene, for some reason the fight between Mel Gibson and Gary Busey pops into my head - maybe because it reminds me of some of the fights I've been in, rolling around in the mud, biting and gouging, lol.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 6:53:38 AM   
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I loved Grosse Pointe Blank, but when I think fight scene, for some reason the fight between Mel Gibson and Gary Busey pops into my head - maybe because it reminds me of some of the fights I've been in, rolling around in the mud, biting and gouging, lol.


heh yeah ... I think they just told Mel that Gary was Jewish and let the cameras roll ... :)

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 6:56:20 AM   
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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 7:10:09 AM   
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I think he was still marginally sane in those days, before the dementia set in.


Considering he seems to have got it from his father, I reckon he always thought that way, but only recently has he got so much money and fame that he now thinks he can do anything and say anything.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 9:01:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		RF, You're pretty spot on as far as Judo goes, but a very good freestyle or Greco wrestler will wear them out.

I was a wrestling coach for several years and it never failed that when I got a judo black belt on the team, and I had a few over the years, they wouldn't listen to SHIT. I'd let them flounder for a week or so beating beginners and then personally show them that "My Kung Fu is better than your Kung Fu".

After that, they would hybridize the 2 styles and get REALLY good. Almost good enough to beat coach but not quite. Once, I quoted Paul Newman. "Kid, I taught you everything you know but I didn't teach you everything I know".

Now Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. That's a whooooole different story. I learned from those guys LOL.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 9:35:36 AM   
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Best and longest fight scene in film (except for actual fight movies)

Roddy Piper and Keith David fight over a pair of sunglasses in They Live


I know I'm in a minority, but I can't be arsed with that one. It just looks like Carpenter realised the script was going to work out twenty minutes short and told them to keep at it for as long as they could...

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/24/2011 10:59:01 AM   
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RF, You're pretty spot on as far as Judo goes, but a very good freestyle or Greco wrestler will wear them out.


My judo-mad mate used to say the same thing, so I can believe that.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 1:56:58 AM   
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"The fight between Nada (Roddy Piper) and Frank (Keith David) was only supposed to last 20 seconds, but Piper and David decided to fight it out for real, only faking the hits to the face and groin. They rehearsed the fight for three weeks. Carpenter was so impressed he kept the 5 minute and 20 second scene intact."

The best line is when he comes into the bank and says " "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum" LOL 

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 5:12:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, there's much better in that film than an overlong dust up.
(It seems to go on for much longer than five minutes and twenty seconds, though...)

Has nobody mentioned the paid for crypto-BDSM beating in Dirty Harry yet? The one that seems to mostly get cut from the television prints...

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 7:06:02 AM   
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Yep, there's much better in that film than an overlong dust up.
(It seems to go on for much longer than five minutes and twenty seconds, though...)


I read once that original went on for twenty minutes.  I've never had to fast-forward through a fight-scene before. 

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 7:30:49 AM   
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I read once that original went on for twenty minutes.  I've never had to fast-forward through a fight-scene before. 


I have to confess I felt a bit like that about the huge punch-up at the end of the last Matrix film, with Keanu vs. The Andersons ... I mean it was good and all, but it seemed to take about a week.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 7:55:15 AM   
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I have to confess I felt a bit like that about the huge punch-up at the end of the last Matrix film, with Keanu vs. The Andersons ... I mean it was good and all, but it seemed to take about a week.


Ah, well, they were into a whole new world of CGI and choreography, weren't they?  Watching that scene, part of me just began to think, 'Right, this bit is aimed at a different demographic.'.  No doubt the film-makers would feel really hurt at comments like ours, though - it was a hell of an achievement. 

The fight scene at the end of the first Matrix, mind you - that had it just about right for me.  It was far out, but not so far out that it overwhelmed the senses.  And Agent Smith really was good as a baddie. 

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 8:00:46 AM   
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c'mon... it was vicious!

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 8:08:19 AM   
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it was a hell of an achievement.


So was Battersea Power Station ... but I wouldn't want to just look at it for 15 minutes ;)

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The fight scene at the end of the first Matrix, mind you - that had it just about right for me. It was far out, but not so far out that it overwhelmed the senses. And Agent Smith really was good as a baddie.


Agreed on both counts, although his voice really grated on me after a while.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 9:15:25 AM   
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*haz a sad cause nobody has commented on my post with Clockwork Orange*

c'mon... it was vicious!


Oh Greedy!  Sorry!  I haven't been paying as much attention to my now proud and tumescent thread as I should have been.

I looked at the clip and, yes, it was pretty damned good, especially considering the era in which it was made.  Fights weren't generally much cop back then (some notable exceptions aside - like the Bruce Lee films and my one from Bad Day at Black Rock - which everyone ignored, as well).  I found that Clockwork Orange an awfully disturbing film (and book), btw.  It was all too easy to imagine a generation of young hoodlums getting their orange jumpsuits and bowler hats together to go out bashing people.  And that was only one of the reasons . . . it was a pretty nasty dystopian vision altogether. 

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 9:56:16 AM   
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I'm trying to remember the name of the movie.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 11:41:46 AM   
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*haz a sad cause nobody has commented on my post with Clockwork Orange*

c'mon... it was vicious!


Never seen that movie. Is it any good.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 11:45:06 AM   
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Bruce Lee vs Kareem.

I'm trying to remember the name of the movie.


Game of death.

Bruce said Kareem presented a challenge for him because of his long limbs.

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RE: Best Fight Scene. (Blokes' thread. No birds.) - 1/25/2011 2:06:38 PM   
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What about some fight scenes in old films - say, pre 1970?  I've just been on a search for one from one of my favest films ever, The Ipcress File.  Couldn't find a clip, unfortunately.   Harry Palmer (Michael Caine) is fighting the henchman of a spy-chief.  You see him take off his glasses, run up the steps at Trafalgar Square, exchange some punches and then do a judo shoulder throw.  All this is filmed from within a red telephone box, with the phone hanging off its hook after Palmer's rushed out.  So stylish. 

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