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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 8:16:28 AM   
rick1283


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My current gf is actually older than I am.... By 4 days.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 8:21:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rick1283

A bit can range to months, too.

My current gf is actually older than I am.... By 4 days.



Heh... it rocks being the older woman...

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 9:33:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: poise

Older men drive better
They shift smoothly
hug curves
take the long way home.
Younger men get excited
revving their own engines
Afraid you’ll change your mind
if they don’t drive fast enough


*my apologies if this offended anyone*




My 17 years "junior" slave is actually part of a very large population of submissive females who are attracted only to the older male as a Master. Now I am not talking about a play session Dom, but a Master. They are always looking for a Master/submissive relationship and will cite how bored they are with the males of their own age group and how they can only be respectful of an older Male. They also cite intelligence and maturity. They always also cite how they are treated by the older Male. This is always the pattern.

Some may wonder if the age difference presents some issues in vanilla social life and the answer is no because
1) we don't care and
2) age difference is more mainstream than you might think.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 10:17:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: poise

As you wish






That picture makes me happy like you wouldn't believe.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 10:39:58 AM   
rick1283


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ORIGINAL: Arturas
Some may wonder if the age difference presents some issues in vanilla social life and the answer is no because
1) we don't care and
2) age difference is more mainstream than you might think.


As you were saying about the level of maturity and the treatment,  that is their preference.
Unfortunately that's about 90% of guys my age (probably more if you researched it. I am basing this on my own limited experience, as if that wasn't obvious).

I see women picking older men a LOT. Even for other reasons.


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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 11:18:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: myotherself

Oh my....*fap fap fap*



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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 12:06:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rick1283

Do you expect me to crawl in a corner and cry or something? Good luck with that.
Anyway, instead of being incorrigible bastards, lets think for a moment.
I have done my research. I have taken samples from around the world. The internet is a VERY useful tool for doing so!

Now, lets break it down a bit.

In the history of nearly any country you look at, you will see it.
In England, girls were married to MUCH older men in ancient times. The same goes for Europe as a whole, and that still holds some influence today, even though the difference isnt so great.

Now, lets skip continents to Africa... Do I actually have to go into this?

China, arranged marriages and a respect for virgins.

I could continue, but even at my "advanced age of 18" I need some breakfast, so I'm cutting it short.



I hardly think the internet is a particularly good tool to carry out a survey and I imagine, you refer to random sampling. If so where is your control group? How did you sample, roughly equal samples from each continent. Surely you didn't did you? You must have gone country by country and in Africa you'd have been better to go tribe by tribe and ethnic group by ethnic group. How did you decide how to sample? Did you take a fixed number from each group or did you take a percentage of the population? Now we come to the crux, where are all your notes other details? You kept them didn't you?

Think I'm being incorrigible? crikey you should try passing that "survey" off to a board of sociologists or even strangely enough a group of psychologists and they will tar your ass off probably with laughter. Personally, I'm a little disappointed in your reply. I was actually hoping (more fool me), that you had actually dine some field work to back up your original statement. This is something which interests me as it is something I may write a paper on next year when I have time. Nice try to brush me off like that. Problems with youth is they forget that some of us old farts have both used and heard that lame excuse many times over the decades. Do I expect me to crawl in a corner and cry or something? Hell No! I expect you to wake up and realise what a clot you were and do better next time and never make such global statements, there are plenty here who will rip you a new ass hole brutally .. Seen them do it time after time.


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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 12:50:52 PM   
rick1283


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Status: offline 		I bet you'd call me a clot, too, if I told you that in every major language in the wold, the word 'mom' starts with the 'm' sound?
What would you do, go around the world and check? Possibly get a sample from every major dialect too? Good luck with India.

It is an obvious and general trend that warrants no study by me, it's not in my area of interest. Perhaps you should ask a social scientist who actually studies these trends.

And just so I'm sure you saw it, I did say my experience is 'limited'.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 12:54:48 PM   
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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 3:01:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Markus27

I know this has most likely been brought up before but why is it that subs desire older men due to 'experience'. I understand *some* older men know what they are doing however *some* younger men do too. It amuses me seeing those profiles that say 40+ or 50+ only or w/e and thinking to myself do they just magically know what they're doing at 40, 50+. No. And if Domina get passed up at a younger age how will they know at 40-50? By this logic a man 18-39 who has been Dom for 15 years is less experience than a Dom. who is 41 and magically started being Dom at 40. Anyone else see the humor in this?


I can't say that I care how young men get their experience. I can't say I care how young women get theirs, either.....(whatever role they're affiliated with).

Young, old, whatever....... if you can do the job...

agirl





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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 3:14:29 PM   
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A dominant is jus born with it... the mass majority learn to be a top, kinky sex, sadistic streak, many many reasons... nevertheless, you're born to it or the TOP bulb lights up. When the top bulb comes on you rush out and read all the books, go to all the parties, watch all the experienced players and hone your topping skills.

When you're born to it, you just can't, as hard as you may try, give a shit what everyone else is doing. Some lil sumthin kicks in your primal fukin monster and it is on like donkey kong. You are the fire and the /s', natural born and hard wired to it, are drawn to the flame... not even going into the Bottom Bulb thang... paddles may be interesting, other kinky play may be fun, but what really kicks the monster into monster mode is CONTROL! YOU'RE MINE! YOU TURN TO JELLO AT MY FEET WHEN I WANT IT, NOT WHEN YOU WANT IT. Having the power, that effect on another person is intoxicating. Knowing that every feeling, sensation, thought and emotion is directed by you, the mad man at the helm of the pleasure cruise is the STUFF! Spanken an ass, sure... shibari, every Tuesday at 4, turning you into a quivering puddle of gush cuz I grabbed your hair and pulled you in tight... priceless



Right there.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 4:08:58 PM   
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I consider myself old already. I've already had life-altering regrets, missed opportunities, an existential crisis (well, actually two) and a career change. Plus, I noticed a hint of a wrinkle once and freaked out immediately. I just need a time machine to fix a few things.

On topic: Attraction isn't entirely voluntary and some people will be attracted to you regardless of their listed preferences. Conversely, trying to convince someone who is only attracted to older men/women to be attracted to you is a wasted effort.

As for intelligence being linked to age in adulthood: don't I wish... 

My personal preference: I'm hopeful I'll have more success and personal growth in the future than I do now. But instead of waiting 15 years, I'd rather be with someone who can appreciate me both now and later, especially if that sentiment is to be reciprocated.

Anyway, don't worry, OP; it's not like young women are going to be any less attractive in the future.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/23/2011 7:25:16 PM   
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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/25/2011 6:25:33 AM   
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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/25/2011 7:05:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whilst this pertains to Mastery itself, I think it is pertinent here.

How Hard Is It being A Master?
How hard? That is a matter of perspective I believe.


There are many things about being a Master that are difficult and take a great  
deal of effort and work..... But BEING a Master... difficulty isn't an issue,  
it is something you just ARE... the effort is about being the BEST You can be,  
living up to Your Own expectations, not letting Yourself down. However  
difficult it maybe to BE a Master, if that is what You are, it is MORE  
difficult to try and pretend to be something else.

There are many Doms out there who would love to be a Master, they will never  
achieve it, it isn't who they are. There are many Tops out there who would  
dearly love to be Doms or Masters but again they never will be, they will only  
ever wear the mask.

The first stage is finding that honesty and self knowledge, knowing what You  
are, how You are wired. Separating that reality from what You would LIKE to be,  
accepting your shadow, dealing with Your demons and baggage. Facing the world  
squarely and stepping away from IT having control of the value sets by which  
You live, taking that responsibility actively onto Yourself.

You have to take responsibility for Yourself before You can even begin to think  
about taking on the responsibility for another. Accept also that You have a  
lifetime of hard learning ahead, no mater how much you learn there is always  
more, different slants even on things You have come to know intimately.

You have to accept that You are Human, yet be able to step up into a situation  
which, to many appears superhuman... to be that fixed point, the polar star in another’s  
sky, the bedrock upon which their world stands. If another is to look to You  
for stability and structure, NEED that from You, rely on that from You then  
regardless of the chaos around You. You must develop the ability to BE the eye  
of the storm, stable and remain that fixed point.

And that is just the start



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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/25/2011 11:13:09 AM   
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RE: Age in Dominance - 2/28/2011 11:55:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		From previous experience with men my own age and even a couple years younger than me, they were just really immature and selfish. I find older men more experience just in general, more intellectual, and more attractive. I also find that it is easier for me to take orders from someone who is OLDER than me rather than from someone my own age. That's just my opinion, though. Guys my own age really turn me off - just the way a girl can walk down the street. An older man might look and admire from afar or try to capture a girl's attention by saying something witty or charming, while a younger guy drives by in his fast car thinking the sound of the tires screeching on the pavement are sexy, or honking or whistling at a girl will make her want to jump his bones.

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RE: Age in Dominance - 3/1/2011 2:13:54 AM   
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RE: Age in Dominance - 3/1/2011 3:01:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtylilgrl08

From previous experience with men my own age and even a couple years younger than me, they were just really immature and selfish. I find older men more experience just in general, more intellectual, and more attractive. I also find that it is easier for me to take orders from someone who is OLDER than me rather than from someone my own age. That's just my opinion, though. Guys my own age really turn me off - just the way a girl can walk down the street. An older man might look and admire from afar or try to capture a girl's attention by saying something witty or charming, while a younger guy drives by in his fast car thinking the sound of the tires screeching on the pavement are sexy, or honking or whistling at a girl will make her want to jump his bones.



Too funny........
In the process of looking for a live in male slave I discovered that
older men can get greedy and selfish and turn into immature whining babies just
as easily as a younger man.
Not every older person is a gentleman and that goes the same for the younger crowd.

Sometimes the younger ones are more eager to learn and it can seem pushy.
Sometimes its the same for an older person new to the scene,who wants to experience everything NOW!!!

I look at each person as the individual that they are and then I check out their car!!
*hehehehehehe*




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RE: Age in Dominance - 3/2/2011 3:27:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		People use preconceptions. Is a way to filter what you want. So you search for a mature Master and sounds logic that an older one will be more mature. Not always right off course.

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