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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 9:42:44 AM   
Hillwilliam


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Well youre right, such studies are completely absurd. Take the line, "Americans make up just 5 percent of the world's population, yet they represent more than half of every medical dollar spent on the planet, Avendano said."

I mean, oh my fucking GAWD, stop the presses - Americans spend more on medical care than Haitians do??? Than the Ethiopians and the Sudanese???

What geniuses did yo say made these startling findings?






Sanity, the key word is "Combined" I typed it slowly so maybe you can understand.

ALLLLLLLLLLLL those other countries out there. 95% of the world's population spends less COMBINED then the US does on health care.

Wanna know what else? A lot of those countries have people that are healthier and have LONGER lives than Americans.

If you read this slowly, maybe you can comprehend it.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 9:44:01 AM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110310/ap_on_he_me/us_med_premature_birth_drug

Maybe this is one reason why Americans pay so much more than everyone else in the industrialized world for health care.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:13:26 AM   
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"I mean, oh my fucking GAWD, stop the presses - Americans spend more on medical care than Haitians do??? "

Ummmm, I think if you take a look at the numbers you'll see that is not a good example.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:23:09 AM   
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"I mean, oh my fucking GAWD, stop the presses - Americans spend more on medical care than Haitians do??? "

Ummmm, I think if you take a look at the numbers you'll see that is not a good example.

T^T

He knows that (I hope) he's just trying to confuse the issue until Rush comes on the radio to tell him what to say.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:24:41 AM   
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"Maybe this is one reason why Americans pay so much more than everyone else in the industrialized world for health care."

Give to the March of Dimes, no, give MORE to the March of Dimes.

You know what I don't see about that situation is the little guys were making this drug at ten bucks a dose right ? Now the big boy have exclusive rights to something they didn't even invent ?

Enfocement action ? The law must be even more fucked up than I thought, and that's saying something. They didn't do the initial reseach, they didn't invent it. They certainly can't have a patent on it because of prior art, what gives ?

I know what gives - $$$$$$$. And it's a fucking shame.

But thee is one ray of hope. Those cease and desist letters, If I got one I would wipe my ass with it. Why did they send them ? They shouldn't have had to right ?

Just like at parking lots and certain businesses when you see a sign that says "Not responsible for...." this or that, what that means most of the time is that they ARE in fact responsible. The sign does not change tort laws, or much of anything having to do with bailment. They just want you to THINK they're not responsible and forget about it. I think those letters are similarly blowing smoke.

If any one of them has the balls to keep making the drug, maybe we'll see how that plays out.

T^T

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:38:14 AM   
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Well youre right, such studies are completely absurd. Take the line, "Americans make up just 5 percent of the world's population, yet they represent more than half of every medical dollar spent on the planet, Avendano said."

I mean, oh my fucking GAWD, stop the presses - Americans spend more on medical care than Haitians do??? Than the Ethiopians and the Sudanese???

What geniuses did yo say made these startling findings?







And you could say that the incidence of Tiger Attacks in Boston and Cleveland is "very low" and you'd be right!

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:43:39 AM   
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I have a rock that repels tigers, don't tell anyone yet. I need to get it patented.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 10:50:00 AM   
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ITT - Sanity can't read English. It explains a lot.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:12:06 AM   
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Most places that have tiger attacks dont have the expensive modern facilities that we do. Life flight, trauma centers, lawsuit happy lawyers...

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And you could say that the incidence of Tiger Attacks in Boston and Cleveland is "very low" and you'd be right!


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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:20:57 AM   
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Most places that have tiger attacks dont have the expensive modern facilities that we do. Life flight, trauma centers, lawsuit happy lawyers...

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And you could say that the incidence of Tiger Attacks in Boston and Cleveland is "very low" and you'd be right!



Surely PoliteSub isn't talking about Dental Health.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:23:55 AM   
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Im sure he can find an article in some other leftwing rag to pat him on his head and tell him they have superior dental care as well, popeye

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Most places that have tiger attacks dont have the expensive modern facilities that we do. Life flight, trauma centers, lawsuit happy lawyers...

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And you could say that the incidence of Tiger Attacks in Boston and Cleveland is "very low" and you'd be right!



Surely PoliteSub isn't talking about Dental Health.


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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:30:36 AM   
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Surely PoliteSub isn't talking about Dental Health.


I know you good ole boys are having fun avoiding the issue, I must have tweaked a few tails for you to start talking of Tigers. I am willing to bet a larger percentage of Americans under 50 have false teeth than here in the UK.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:32:32 AM   
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Im sure he can find an article in some other leftwing rag to pat him on his head and tell him they have superior dental care as well, popeye



Princeton is a left wing rag ? Whats the world comming to huh.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:35:30 AM   
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Sorry PoliteSub....I can't resist...so here goes;
Having false teeth is actually indicative of having seen and been treated by a fucking dentist...an unknown practice in the UK.
(just kidding with you of course....lol)

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:35:37 AM   
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Something else - for someone who claims to be a moderate you sure do like tooting socialisms fart bag.



Touched a nerve have I ? 

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:36:50 AM   
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And now the discussion has been moved from the irrefutable fact that US health care is ridonkulously overpriced and inefficient, to USAican vs British teeth, a subject split by different cultural assignments of straight teeth as coming under health or cosmetic. And Princeton is regarded as Democratic....in the usa it seems everything is politicised.

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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:39:14 AM   
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So the uber-cons posting here are going to ignore that our healthcare industry lags behind most developed nations in almost every significant statistic and spew illogical jabberings?

Color me surprised.


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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:39:50 AM   
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you give them studies, they produce pointless excuses. As Mr Giant Cock said, when they get told what to say, they will have a semi choerent response for you Polite,
Until then expect more of the same.
If you dont have healthcare insurance in the US you might as well be attacked by a Tiger, altho it might get you patched up before being sent home to cope alone with an admonition not to play with tigers and plan for ANYTHING " to happen and it WONT happen again. Bad bad person.
Now thats being facetious.
I see too many people just on this board who suffer with insufficient health coverage in the US and it makes me angry that  here(in P&R) its treated like its their own fault.
UGH



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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:40:08 AM   
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Really, your US News & World Report article doesnt suggest that socialism begets better health as you claim, what it says is that Americans are slightly more obese, have higher rates of asthma, etc.

Which these arent signs of inferior health care systems, theyre signs of differing lifestyle choices and can account for more expenses incurred as well.




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RE: Damn socialists make British healthier than Americans. - 3/10/2011 11:41:32 AM   
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Do you have any idea what the hell you are talking about?  Because I sure don't.



Me either.

He would go ballistic if I point out that the even more socialist Germans make the NHS look like a poor relation.

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