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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/29/2011 7:38:12 PM

IronBear

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes and no, IB. I'm all for living life as I choose, but some things are detrimental to others. Something like porn addiction doesn't necessarily stop being an issue just because someone starts a relationship. The partners of the folks with the problem often get very hurt by it. Some folks even have sex with their partners less because they get so wrapped up in the porn itself. They sneak to watch it, masturbate, and then are too 'spent' to have sex with their partner. The porn becomes more important than the person they are sharing their life with on some scale. They get neglected, hurt, and confused. That's how most people would feel if their partner didn't want to have sex with them, but were masturbating and watching plenty of porn.

I wouldn't disagree with you there LP, my comment was specifically based on Apig's views about smoking killing him and him carking it early.. As such I stand by my statement.

@ Dommy Guy.. I understand your view but disagree with it. After all in other cultures than that of the west and specifically the US, it is not just acceptable but expected that a warrior will should he deem the time being right, end his own life in a manner which he believes correct.. The error that many folks in the US in particular make is to assume that any form of self destruction is cowardly.. I can't think of any of my mercenary associates who would agree with that and yet not one of them are cowards and have proven that time after time.

You speak of $4.00 per pack of cigarettes.. half you lock old lad, we pay over $15 for a pask of 50 and for a 50g tin of Erinmore Pipe Tobacco I pay almost $30.. Yet, smoking at those prices is cheaper than patches or any of the other means of quitting, and still the best short term stress relief I know without creating psychosis.

At worst you and I may have to agree to disagree..

< Message edited by IronBear -- 3/29/2011 7:43:11 PM >

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/29/2011 10:52:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Cheating be damned!....the people who propose that as a deterent are cheating you from enjoying life as YOU choose. Your going to cark it when it is your time and nothing you sat or do is going to radically change that. So even have the privelage on choosing the time, place and method of their death.. Their right not for anyone else to argue..

Like I said IB, I can see it from her point of view, but I don't agree.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 12:53:38 AM

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It has nothing to do with willpower. Willpower is something that "normal" people are able to exercise so that they do not overindulge. If you have never had the experience of a complete loss of control and inability to control an addiction, I can only tell you that it is someplace you never want to go.

With all due respect hausboy, you do not know where i have been
and in my book it has everything to do with willpower
and as long as an addict believes that they are somehow different from 'normal' people, that they are more sensitive or have a different set of neurobiology stuff going on... that life is so hard for poor them that they simply can not help themselves and that somebody should just invent that pill for them that makes them strong... well as long as they believe that- they will piss on everybody including themselves and carry on their weak and rediculous behaviour... and lie to themselves and all people around them to cover up the truth, because they ALL know deep down in their heart... that they are indeed weak and behaving badly wasting money and time on stuff that when it has become an addiction is not even bringing them any happiness anymore... to continue bad behaviour like that is weak and selfish and it is upto each and every individual to better themselves... willpower of the person is the only thing that can make a difference.
if the willpower is not there then you can use the 12 step plan to wipe your arse with

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 3:03:03 AM

ranja

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

in other cultures than that of the west and specifically the US, it is not just acceptable but expected that a warrior will should he deem the time being right, end his own life in a manner which he believes correct.. The error that many folks in the US in particular make is to assume that any form of self destruction is cowardly.. I can't think of any of my mercenary associates who would agree with that and yet not one of them are cowards and have proven that time after time.

are you saying you are actively chosing smoking as some heroic way to terminate your life?

quote:

Yet, smoking at those prices is cheaper than patches or any of the other means of quitting, and still the best short term stress relief I know without creating psychosis.

If smokers who want to stop... stop, it need not cost them any money in patches or therapy, just don't moan about it and go and do something else instead... and not stuff your face with food or shoot up with herion obviously...
If you don't want to stop just carry on then, but please don't come out with guff about being a warrior committing some form of hara-kiri

ETA also smoking does NOT reduce stress... it is a misunderstanding at the very least... smoking makes your heart rate go up and your blood pressure rise, it does not really relax a person at all.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 6:08:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
After all in other cultures than that of the west and specifically the US, it is not just acceptable but expected that a warrior will should he deem the time being right, end his own life in a manner which he believes correct.. The error that many folks in the US in particular make is to assume that any form of self destruction is cowardly.. I can't think of any of my mercenary associates who would agree with that and yet not one of them are cowards and have proven that time after time.

I'm not sure what you're saying here, are you saying that your mercenary associates follow the warrior code that you describe?

I ask because I was brought up around mercenaries, and while many of them are brave, quite a few really aren't, and I've never encountered any that subscribe to any form of "warrior code". Perhaps you run with a better quality of mercenary, I was brought up in Lagos and I doubt I encountered too many of the upright, warrior code following sort.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 6:34:35 AM

IronBear

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Most of my friends ares all ex special forces. Yes most of them subscribe to the right to end their own life if the circumstances warrant it. Better than capture for example or being permanently crippled. Although there are many who would argue the latter.

@ raja, whilst I support your right to express an opinion, kindly try not to be flippant about other people's choices or ways of living their lives. Do not BS about smoking and stress.. I have a ream of medical opinions which support the fact that anti-stress medication has the side effect of generating psychosis. I am by law required to have access to specialist weapons and ammunition at home which is also required of me, would tend to indicate that it is not a good thing for someone who has immediate access to such weapons to be taking medication which can make him psychotic.. Bad mix indeed. I seriously doubt you know or would be able to comprehend the stress of moving through a dark buildiung at night or down back allies aftwe a person who is believed or known to be armed. or in other situations be protecting a client with the knowledge that people want him killed and every moment you need to be at a level of alertness that you will be aware of a mouse farting.. so that even a back fire from a car can have you taking the client to the ground, covering him with your body and have a gun in your hand as will the rest of the five man team.. this girl has been a major part of my life until a few short years ago when my left leg finally ceased to work properly thanks to a fucking 15 yo with a shotgun who wanted to kill a security officer..

Again you ignorance of addiction comes to the for when you state that a smoker if he or she wants to quit will just do so... The facts are that very few are able to do so. fewer again are those who go cold turkey when they are on serious pain medication such as morphine as I am. tell me I am weak willed if you like but you'll only come across as the turkey.. BTW, the nicotine isn't the most addictive part of tobacco smoking it is the spraying of the leaves when curing with liquid hot sugar to stop mound I am informed by people in the industry. Sugar is far more addictive than many realize..

< Message edited by IronBear -- 3/30/2011 6:35:26 AM >

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 6:44:58 AM

rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

Okay I have a porn addiction and I worry that it will keep me from becoming a Master. What I am getting at is how can I Master others while struggling with my addiction? Also I know it wont be long before my current addiction evolves into a sex addiction so that is also a concern of mine. Should I give up on becoming a Dom or could I manage my addiction?

You can start by not whining like a schoolgirl.

I am so sick of people labeling everything as an addiction.

You have a bad habit, (I have the same bad habit by the way

) so if you don't like it deal with it.

But don't go down the road of claiming it's an addiction that you are powerless against and all the other twelve-step nonsense.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 6:57:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Probably going to get flamed for this, but have you thought of changing you nic? there are those who take on nics related to pagan deities or other pagan areas such as yours where such names do (no matter what anyone tells you) have an intrinsic power of their own and attract energies which can be manipulative and even destructive.

This is why I usually do not post on this side of the boards.

Do you really believe this nonsense?

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 7:08:55 AM

rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Which allows men not only to get off on porn but to potentially develop a neurological attachment to it. They can, in essence, date porn.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 8:31:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Again you ignorance of addiction comes to the for when you state that a smoker if he or she wants to quit will just do so...

i smoked 20 + a day for 20 + years (among other bad habits, yes i like sugar, booze and more too)
i did not say anyone who wants to stop smoking will just do so, i said can just do so... and i know it ain't easy
... no matter how you try to excuse yourself, any dependency on any drug other than for real medicinal purposes... (or a habit of wasting too much time on watching porn) is a weakness
and you did not answer my question... are you seriously saying it is your wish to choose smoking as a way to terminate your life?
And have you now added to your reasons to smoke the idea that you would turn psychotic if you'd stop and that is dangerous because it is necessary for you to have an arsenal of weapons in your house?
are you mad?
or is the reality that you are secretly a tad bit scared about how the inside actually gets blacker and blacker but too self indulgent to dwell on it... rather just light another one and pretend you are indestructible.

when i smoked my grandma used to bug me with all this nagging about how bad it was for my health and what a waste of money it was... of course i did not wanna listen to her going on about it... i always knew she was right though

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 8:46:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Which allows men not only to get off on porn but to potentially develop a neurological attachment to it. They can, in essence, date porn.

Kana supports this.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 9:14:06 AM

IronBear

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Probably going to get flamed for this, but have you thought of changing you nic? there are those who take on nics related to pagan deities or other pagan areas such as yours where such names do (no matter what anyone tells you) have an intrinsic power of their own and attract energies which can be manipulative and even destructive.

This is why I usually do not post on this side of the boards.

Do you really believe this nonsense?

It may be nonsense to you, but to me it is the meat of life. I have spent most of my adult life in both lodge and now am Gm of the lodge my father and his father were in turn GM of as well as working with and training covens. Most here know I am an ordained pagan priest, counselor and therapist by training. Not working that way for most of then time but life goes that way.. I trust that answers your question..

~~~~ranja.... You may happily choose to believe I smoke ass a means of terminating my life if that makes you happy.. I never saidn it nor gave anyn indication that this is the case. I have for years smoked double what you smoked, sure I get a little short of breath at the moment. I smoke for pleasure both my pipe and Cuban cigars.. Cigarettes at times for convenience.

You do not know me nor will you ever. You have no idea about my life or lifestyle or even life choices so you may as well seal your pie hole and stop spewing your ignorant, unwelcome commentary about my health ot what I may be scared of. All you do is demonstrate again your bigotry, insecurity and ignorance. I do not need people like you advising me on health matters when you have no real or learned knowledge as you have demonstrated time and again in this thread. opinions are rather like arseholes .. we all have them but.... Some arsehole are more stinky than others just as some opinions stink more then others. Frankly if this is the last time you ever speak to me I shall be a very happy man..

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 2:13:34 PM

crazyml

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

This is why I usually do not post on this side of the boards.

Do you really believe this nonsense?

So you're saying that the Pols 'n' Religion side of the boards is where you go to get away from "nonsense".

Fuck me sideways.

<just sayin>

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 3:14:50 PM

RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Most of my friends ares all ex special forces.

*cough*BULLSHIT*cough*

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/30/2011 3:45:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
*cough*BULLSHIT*cough*

LOLOL. We need a special board for all the people that understand everything about people they've never met.

You've been a member since 2006. IB has been posting a long time. In theory you've seen all the same posts as I have including all the little details which would lead one to believe one of two things.

a) He really was in special forces and therefor it's not surprising that his circle of friends comes from there.
b) He has, over the course of years, consistently and in great detail spun an entire fabrication of a life.

Now don't get me wrong. I think IB's smart enough to actually pull of option B. But it still seems like a lot of work to do it.

I know this may be a real shocker to you, but some people actually present themselves as they are. And, amazingly enough, some people have been in the special forces. It's an exclusive club but not THAT exclusive.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 12:44:11 AM

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~~~ IronBar- Bore- Bear it must be time for a fag... and who knows, maybe -poof - you'll have your wish

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 5:14:49 AM

IronBear

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Time for your meds girl...Perhaps a gag would be good too.. My wish? You realy do not want to know what my wish as far as you go would be it wouldn't be nice .. Nor at all....

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 5:37:41 AM

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Meta-analysis of the acute effects of nicotine and smoking on human performance

Empirical studies indicate that nicotine enhances some aspects of attention and cognition... We found significant positive effects of nicotine or smoking on six domains: fine motor, alerting attention-accuracy and response time (RT), orienting attention-RT, short-term episodic memory-accuracy, and working memory-RT (effect size range = 0.16 to 0.44) ...The beneficial cognitive effects of nicotine have implications for initiation of smoking and maintenance of tobacco dependence.

K.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 9:30:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

LOLOL. We need a special board for all the people that understand everything about people they've never met.

“LOL” yourself. I've debunked several bullshit statements he's made previously, and expect this latest will be more of the same.

What I find especially amusing is the way, as soon as anyone dares to disagree with The Mighty Super-Dooper Master Iron Bear, he immediately runs off to have a good look at their profile, generally in order to attempt to find something he can use later (and I’m not the first to have noticed that either) ... in my experience, such types are always internet blowhards, and the current subject is, from my observations, no exception.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 8:05:40 PM

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~ FR ~

Meta-analysis of the acute effects of nicotine and smoking on human performance

Empirical studies indicate that nicotine enhances some aspects of attention and cognition... We found significant positive effects of nicotine or smoking on six domains: fine motor, alerting attention-accuracy and response time (RT), orienting attention-RT, short-term episodic memory-accuracy, and working memory-RT (effect size range = 0.16 to 0.44) ...The beneficial cognitive effects of nicotine have implications for initiation of smoking and maintenance of tobacco dependence.

K.

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