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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 3/31/2011 8:58:11 PM   
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It has nothing to do with willpower.  Willpower is something that "normal" people are able to exercise so that they do not overindulge. If you have never had the experience of a complete loss of control and inability to control an addiction, I can only tell you that it is someplace you never want to go. 



With all due respect hausboy, you do not know where i have been
and in my book it has everything to do with willpower
and as long as an addict believes that they are somehow different from 'normal' people, that they are more sensitive or have a different set of neurobiology stuff going on... that life is so hard for poor them that they simply can not help themselves and that somebody should just invent that pill for them that makes them strong... well as long as they believe that- they will piss on everybody including themselves and carry on their weak and rediculous behaviour... and lie to themselves and all people around them to cover up the truth, because they ALL know deep down in their heart... that they are indeed weak and behaving badly wasting money and time on stuff that when it has become an addiction is not even bringing them any happiness anymore... to continue bad behaviour like that is weak and selfish and it is upto each and every individual to better themselves... willpower of the person is the only thing that can make a difference.
if the willpower is not there then you can use the 12 step plan to wipe your arse with


You know, ranja, just because you start a post with "with all due respect" does not detract from the obnoxious contents therein. I don't know where you've been---and neither do you know where I've gone.  Your post is just filled with anger....anger I'm assuming is really meant for someone else.

I never said that you should feel sorry for addicts...nor did I say that the behavior an active addict engages in is acceptable. And while you may not agree with 12-step programs (not everyone does, and they certainly aren't for everyone).  I'll use "me" statements here --part of the recovery process is understanding how I hurt other people, the damage and pain I inflicted on others and myself, and taking full accountability for that instead of blaming others.  Part of my recovery is making amends to those I hurt--even when they may have done worse things to me.  I've learn forgiveness....accountability...and honesty.  Three things that I once thought were impossible for me.

Working a 12-step program involves a deep, hard look inside--seeing one's character flaws and defects.   Willpower does not work because for me, it implies that I alone have power over my addictions, and I did and do not.  The support of others, the support of my sponsor, and the belief that some greater force out wanted me on this earth to do good things--that helped me (an agnostic, no less) and keeps me away from drugs and alcohol.  I lead a life today beyond my wildest dreams and make contributions to society.


But by all means...hold on to all that productive, healthy anger.
And feel free to use my 12-step program to wipe your ass with it. It's kept me clean and sober for 18 years and today.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/1/2011 10:05:24 AM   
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in other cultures than that of the west and specifically the US, it is not just acceptable but expected that a warrior will should he deem the time being right, end his own life in a manner which he believes correct.. The error that many folks in the US in particular make is to assume that  any form of self destruction is cowardly.. I can't think of any of my mercenary associates who would agree with that and yet not one of them are cowards and have proven that time after time.


are you saying you are actively chosing smoking as some heroic way to  terminate your life?

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Yet, smoking at those prices is cheaper than patches or any of the other means of quitting, and still the best short term stress relief I know without creating psychosis.


If smokers who want to stop... stop, it need not cost them any money in patches or therapy, just don't moan about it and go and do something else instead... and not stuff your face with food or shoot up with herion obviously...
If you don't want to stop just carry on then, but please don't come out with guff about being a warrior committing some form of hara-kiri

ETA also smoking does NOT reduce stress... it is a misunderstanding at the very least... smoking makes your heart rate go up and your blood pressure rise, it does not really relax a person at all.


From this thread:
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1901514

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You are completely wrong. In fact, nicotine is an amazing drug. It improves concentration. It improves short term memory. Depending on the delivery concentrations, it can calm the CNS, or it can stimulate it.

The amazing thing about smoking is how it is perfectly adapted to the human physiology. Take for example, the ability of the body to self-regulate the nicotine uptake. Envision the classic stressed smoker -- puffing fast, shallow breaths, rapid draw on the cigarette one after another, no pauses. What she's doing is shallow oxygenation. The nicotine gets into the bloodstream and to the brain (amazingly quickly, but that's a whole 'nother post) and begins to "damp down" the adrenaline. NOW, imagine the same smoker, relaxed, languid (the famous post-coital cigarette comes to mind). What is she doing? Drawing on the cigarette with long, slow puffs. Usually putting it down between draws. Chatting. slowly exhaling. And that draws in the nicotine to stimulate the CNS, excite some of the brain chemical receptors, and give the smoker a more focused sense and a sense of well-being.



At times tobacco can act as a stimulant and at other times it may produce tranquilizing effects.
And
Tobacco is as addictive as heroin (as a mood & behavior altering agent).
From:
http://www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/nicaddct.html

So, please do have someone inject you with heroin several times, enough to need it and then try to stop on your own.

You paint everything in black and white and are seemingly 'addicted' to being right and being righteously pissed off.

You can be as angry as you wish or feel you need to be, it won't make you any happier.

Working a 12-step program and staying sober as opposed to just stopping drinking/drugging or what-have-you can be among the hardest thing ever one does.
It is no nursery that coddles the people who go.

(And in my experience the so called "dry drunk" is a very real thing. There is a big difference between being just dry (not drinking) and being sober.)

I am guessing that at some point someone dared to suggest you attend one of those -Anon groups and the idea that you might have a problem frankly made you sick.
How dare you need to make amends for anything...!
How dare you need to look at your part because after all, you were the wronged party and the one that was harmed.

To carry so much anger and pain inside of you is really quite debillitating.

I am sorry for your pain, but it is your choice that you carry it.

Someone may wonder if this is not in conflict with neurobiology.
I don't think it is.
In a very real sense we are what we think.
If we change our thought patterns, it makes sense to me that our neurochemistry changes too.
It is one of the reasons why Cognitive Therapies work so well on things like depression and PTSD.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/1/2011 11:40:48 AM   
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... and are seemingly 'addicted' to being right and being righteously pissed off.

*chuckles* you think? This is the same woman who was certain she was more right about my own marriage than I am.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/1/2011 11:58:05 AM   
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So, please do have someone inject you with heroin several times, enough to need it and then try to stop on your own.


of all the stupid things a person could say...
tobacco is by far not as difficult to kick as heroin, jeeezzz
as for anybody starting an addiction to see if they can break their own habit... do you know that a lot of people start smoking because of peer pressure... are you seriously trying to pressure or dare me into starting a heroin dependency?

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I am sorry for your pain, but it is your choice that you carry it.



You are not sorry for any 'pain' i might have at all, you just felt a need to respond to my post. You think i am angry; i am not, i simply have little sympathy for people who moan about- or make excuses for- their own bad behaviour... especially if it is behaviour that causes others a lot of grief.
and i understand very well that it is rotten to have a problem, and i also know can be very hard to put things right... i never disagreed with that.

so: the advise for this 19 year old op to stop moaning, turn off his porn and have the self discipline to go and do something else instead i think is totally sound... it might be difficult for him and he might even need a 12 step plan, but if he can not muster up any willpower to do something about his problem (if it really is a problem)... well then nothing will change and he will remain lost

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/1/2011 2:11:31 PM   
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So, please do have someone inject you with heroin several times, enough to need it and then try to stop on your own.


of all the stupid things a person could say...
tobacco is by far not as difficult to kick as heroin, jeeezzz
as for anybody starting an addiction to see if they can break their own habit... do you know that a lot of people start smoking because of peer pressure... are you seriously trying to pressure or dare me into starting a heroin dependency?

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I am sorry for your pain, but it is your choice that you carry it.



You are not sorry for any 'pain' i might have at all, you just felt a need to respond to my post. You think i am angry; i am not, i simply have little sympathy for people who moan about- or make excuses for- their own bad behaviour... especially if it is behaviour that causes others a lot of grief.
and i understand very well that it is rotten to have a problem, and i also know can be very hard to put things right... i never disagreed with that.

so: the advise for this 19 year old op to stop moaning, turn off his porn and have the self discipline to go and do something else instead i think is totally sound... it might be difficult for him and he might even need a 12 step plan, but if he can not muster up any willpower to do something about his problem (if it really is a problem)... well then nothing will change and he will remain lost


Of course I am not daring you to begin a heroin dependancy nor on any other drug, but yet, study after study has found nicotine addiction to be more difficult than that of both cocaine and heroin in terms of getting off it.

And yes, I an genuinely sorry for your pain.
That you automatically judge that statement as false says a great deal about you.
Your pain is palpable, through the pixels.

And if you are not angry, well then you might wish to convey that to your brain; your words and their context express something quite different than "not angry".

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/1/2011 5:32:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Angelika you are right on the mark.

Stopping the behavior is only one small part of the equation.  It's stopping the thinking that drives the behavior.  It's why addicts may quit a "drug of choice" only to end up with a different addiction.  The thinking is the same.  (and why they often suggest that when one stops booze, one should also stop drugs...and vice versa)

I didn't drink because I was thirsty. I drank to get numb, to avoid the pain, to escape from my reality.  I drank so that I didn't have to take responsibility for my life.  Stopping the drink allowed my head to clear, but my brain was still in the pattern of an addict.  It took a long long time and a lot of hard work to realize how "not drinking" was only one tiny part of the solution.

Way back to the original poster...  if this young man truly suffers from a real addiction, putting down the porn will only be a temporary fix until his addiction finds another outlet to manifest itself.  Working with others (professional or 12-step) to address addiction issues at the source is more likely to yield better, long term results.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/2/2011 5:01:00 AM   
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Of course I am not daring you to begin a heroin dependancy nor on any other drug,

that is a bit of a turnaround then...

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And yes, I an genuinely sorry for your pain.
That you automatically judge that statement as false says a great deal about you.
Your pain is palpable, through the pixels.

And if you are not angry, well then you might wish to convey that to your brain; your words and their context express something quite different than "not angry".


so it is not ok for me to not believe you... but when i say i am not angry it is ok for you not to believe that i am not? and you continue to be sorry for pain that i have not got?
You might wish to convey to your brain that what you read between the pixels is bluntness, not pain or anger

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Hausboy : Willpower does not work because for me, it implies that I alone have power over my addictions, and I did and do not.  The support of others, the support of my sponsor, and the belief that some greater force out wanted me on this earth to do good things--that helped me (an agnostic, no less) and keeps me away from drugs and alcohol


here is where we totally disagree, if you do not want to take credit for your own massive achievement (eventhough it is with the help of a plan and supportive people) that is your business
the choice to stay away from drugs and alcohol is yours

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/2/2011 7:15:42 AM   
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I know this may be a real shocker to you, but some people actually present themselves as they are. And, amazingly enough, some people have been in the special forces. It's an exclusive club but not THAT exclusive.


Greetings,

Now that's a shocker. Because we're all familiar strangers and you really can't verify what's factual without having some form of contact outside of here and even still, no one knows what truly takes place behind closed doors save those that are there. At best we're all making educated guesses and basing our opinions on what we've seen/experienced with the individual in the context of all of this. And with all due respect, most people aren't going to invest the time and energy required to discredit someone. But that doesn't mean we don't see discrepancies. Perhaps it is of no consequence since our reality isn't being impacted by someone's farce. Nonetheless it does offer a snickerdoodle or two for good measure.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/2/2011 9:06:50 AM   
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Of course I am not daring you to begin a heroin dependancy nor on any other drug,

that is a bit of a turnaround then...

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And yes, I an genuinely sorry for your pain.
That you automatically judge that statement as false says a great deal about you.
Your pain is palpable, through the pixels.

And if you are not angry, well then you might wish to convey that to your brain; your words and their context express something quite different than "not angry".


so it is not ok for me to not believe you... but when i say i am not angry it is ok for you not to believe that i am not? and you continue to be sorry for pain that i have not got?
You might wish to convey to your brain that what you read between the pixels is bluntness, not pain or anger

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Hausboy : Willpower does not work because for me, it implies that I alone have power over my addictions, and I did and do not.  The support of others, the support of my sponsor, and the belief that some greater force out wanted me on this earth to do good things--that helped me (an agnostic, no less) and keeps me away from drugs and alcohol


here is where we totally disagree, if you do not want to take credit for your own massive achievement (eventhough it is with the help of a plan and supportive people) that is your business
the choice to stay away from drugs and alcohol is yours


ranja,
Honestly, if you can't understand the point I was trying to make regarding the fact backed by numerous scientific studies that nicotine is more addictive than heroin and that when I suggested using heroin as an example of how difficult kicking a nicotine addiction is then you are more obtuse than I thought.
I was not being anymore literal than you were when your owner used you for a toilet.

Your example was one of satire and mine was analogous; dovetailing with the studies mentioned.

I am delighted to know that you have no pain or anger.


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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 9:59:34 AM   
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Your example was one of satire and mine was anal


nice save ange

i know a thing or two about drugs and addictions, and studies or not, i tell you: herion or alcohol are more difficult to kick than cigs.
When you stop a dependency on hard drugs your body gets sick, you need proper help and not the mental stuff, you need to be cleaned and fed and physically stopped from getting the stuff your body craves, i am sure that most people know this.
When you stop smoking you might crave a fag, but you do NOT get sick.
Most smokers are addicted to the smoking and not the nicotine fix, so most smokers have no interest in nicotine patches, and not because of the cost but because it is no fun.
Smoking is much more a bad habit than an addiction and the sooner a smoker acepts this to be the case the easier it is for them to get a grip and stop... the more they think how terribly difficult it is to stop... even more difficult than coming off herion... well oh dear, there is simply no way they can tackle this... better just give in and quickly light up to calm down about it... boom boom boom heart rate soaring... life is sooo hard...

There was a time that is was totally socially acceptable to smoke... It was even allowed in cinemas of all places... i have sat on airplanes puffing away, actually thinking i was oh so cool, what a joke... what a lie!
Now we have been educated about the health risks and it is not socially acceptable anymore, and rightly so, i mean having to watch a movie you paid to see peering through some ignorant bastards smoke cloud is just naf, and to sit in a smoke filled tin can miles up in the sky is just too stupid to comprehend.
Smoking is really just a totally stupid waste of money and time... you might aswell just burn your cash, it is less dumb
same for a fast food, porn, weed or gambling addiction; it is a stupid selfish anti social waste of time

now if a person choses to waste their time and money on stupid anti social things that is their business, but if they complain about it or try to somehow justify their habit, well then i feel free to give them my opinion on the matter
amen

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 10:25:05 AM   
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Smoking is really just a totally stupid waste of money and time... you might aswell just burn your cash


i'm reminded by something Thomas Stanley wrote in the Millionaire Next Door. He mentioned that his parents smoked one pack of Marlboro cigarettes every day for thirty years. He was honest in his assessment and clearly noted it was a monetary waste. But he didn't stop there. He went on to acknowledge that the same money invested in the company (PhillipMorris) that provided the cigarettes in question for the same duration would have made them millionaires several times over. One of the interesting concepts he shares about successful people is the omission of behaviors that adversely affect ones pocketbook. And he's not addressing the Hollywood types, but your average Joe that is anything but where it counts.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 11:27:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I honestly don't know what it is that makes you persist in pushing forth your own narrow viewpoint in the face of the wide world of knowledge out there, but it's admirable in a crazy sort of way. I've seen on many threads over the time I've been on this site that you do not like to be 'wrong' and will adhere to a whatever unsubstantiated nonsense you've chosen as the only true answer like a pit bull. It seems that the more people come here and try to enlighten you the more you entrench yourself in your opinion regardless of what the facts are.

A nicotine addiction is one of the hardest addictions to break. It is absolutely on par with heroin and alcohol. I could link some resources here for you but I refuse to since you'll ignore them anyway much like you ignored the link from angelika. You obviously know how to use a computer, plug nicotine addiction into any search engine and read away. There is no excuse for not educating yourself unless your goal is to look like an idiot. 

It's not useful to keep pushing your own personal experience as the one true way for everyone. Other people in the world happen to know a thing or two about addiction as well, especially if what they are saying has some proven facts along with their opinion. You really have no idea what is going on in other people's lives- what  you think can be quite meaningless. You may want to consider that there are more sides to a subject than just what you yourself happen to believe is true.

Addictions are a fact, people fall into them for a variety of complex psychological and yes, physical reasons. The addictions don't always come about from being 'weak' and can't always be taken care of by self-discipline -so keep your condescending attitude on that to yourself please. Do you honestly think that people who are literally killing themselves, or who have lost all that is sacred to them, wouldn't change some little thing or two to make it go away if they could? Have you ever listened to people tell their stories of living in hell and how they drag the people who love them through that same hell? Which is harder for them to bear actually.

The OP's problem with porn can perhaps be resolved by him buckling down and changing things on his own. If he has a true addiction it might take more than that. There certainly would be no harm in him trying and putting a lot of effort into turning things around for himself, and if he found himself in need of help going to seek it after an honest attempt at changing his habits. Your mantra on this thread of using self-discipline may or may not be the answer since it might be an obsession, it might be an addiction. We don't know.

No one on this thread has ever advocated that the OP needs coddling, no one is feeding him excuses. The point you are missing that others are trying to make, is that there might be a different side to it and it would be good if he were aware that he might be up against something that will need more ammunition to get it under control. Or not. He might just need a kick in the pants administered by himself. Who really knows? I do know however that it is not useful to paint all situations with the same brush.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 11:36:54 AM   
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Okay I have a porn addiction and I worry that it will keep me from becoming a Master. What I am getting at is how can I Master others while struggling with my addiction? Also I know it wont be long before my current addiction evolves into a sex addiction so that is also a concern of mine. Should I give up on becoming a Dom or could I manage my addiction?



OP, you have a point. I'd not accept as my Master someone who was struggling with an addiction. This isn't something I'd let into my life under any circumstance - it's not just under the D/s umbrella. To have a quality relationship with someone in any kind of way means you will have to become a healthy person mentally.

If you're up for it, give yourself a worthwhile kick in the ass. Read over the other posts and do some of the things that others have suggested. Turn off the damn computer for one thing. If you find yourself unable to control things then get help - as was also suggested.

I would definitely give up on being a Dom or trying to form any kind of relationship until you feel that you have your best self to offer to another. Anything less is cheating yourself and cheating her. You aren't doing this - forming a relationship - in a vacuum. You're taking  another human being along for the ride. Why set her up for heartache? Why hurt her? Get your act together and give her the best you possible. Don't you think that way you'll get more out of it yourself?

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 2:25:44 PM   
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i know a thing or two about drugs and addictions, and studies or not, i tell you: herion or alcohol are more difficult to kick than cigs.


Wrong.

Or at least it depends on the purity and degree/amount of the heroin (note the spelling, please) and/or alcohol addiction.

And you clearly do not "know a thing or 2 about drugs and addictions", else you wouldn't have made that statement in the first place.

There are so many variables in the equation that it's hard to find a baseline, but to state either "smoking is easier to give up than ..." or "smoking is harder to give up than ..." is a fool's premise.

Nicotine is demonstrably more addictive, per gram, but that that doesn't make it more addictive per each instance of addiction.

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When you stop smoking you might crave a fag, but you do NOT get sick.


Wrong.

You're 2 for 2. Nice job :)

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/3/2011 7:40:45 PM   
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Please stop funding drug and alcohol addiction programs....and while you're at it, you can return the federal grant for nicotine abatement too.  Just tell all of the addicts and alcoholics to just get some willpower stop doing drugs and drinking and all of our problems will be solved.

Wow. Wish I had thought of that sooner.

edited to add:  I quit smoking same time I gave up my other addictions.  It was equally if not harder.  I still crave cigarettes!


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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/4/2011 2:22:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		lizi you spend all that time typing how wrong i am and then you come out with this: "Turn off the damn computer for one thing."

Rapier, bit nit picky about two letters the wrong way around aren't we?
i do know a thing or two about drugs, they might not be the things you know but that is neither here nor there
and on the second issue you point out; well, i have gone through it like many many others and i have not noticed any physical illnesses, fever, puking, hallucinating or uncontrollable shaking myself or by other people who quit smoking
though i recognise this is only my experience it seems you might equally be the one who is wrong telling me i am wrong sir

hausboy, of course it is good a society allocates money to help people who have problems. My point is that if these people with problems do not have the willpower to help themselves in the first place, any money spend on them will be wasted as they will never truly crack their problem. I have seen this first hand within my own family. I also accept that to help a few it is worth to lose some money on the ones that are just hopeless.

i still crave cigarettes on occasion too, not the nicotine but the habit of smoking... however as soon as i experience this craving/longing/nostalgic bullshit i am so glad i cracked the filthy waste of time... again; my experience, i am sure it is different for some others.

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/4/2011 7:57:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		physical is far easier to deal with than mental because physical withdrawal can be medicated for.  the mental aspects of addiction to cigarrettes go hand in hand with the fact that they are omnipresent phuckers, being smoked and sold around you all day long.

the mental tricks and twists the brain conjours up to get you to buy a pack of ten, or just have one it wont matter, the games that addiction plays on you mentally makes it far far harder to fight.

as for the physical side, when i gave up the fags i definitely experienced physical issues. insomnia was the worst, depression, lost concentration, obsessive urges, horrible metal taste in my mouth.  but the worst of all was the tricksey games my brain played on me for over 6 months.  worse than that maybe was the weight i gained, the effect it had on my self esteem and my health.

fags and drink are the worst addictions because both can be bought freely and easily.  and i would argue that on that score alone, the addiction to porn follows that path too.  now that porn is everywhere and can be found on the net easily and it no longer requires that you go sneakily into a shop and buy a porn mag from some family run newsagent, the omnipresent availability of porn must make it very hard to avoid.

in the end its down to the availability of these things and if the bitching hypocritical governments stopped harking on about the cost to the health service, whilst stashing the taxes that come in and just made these things much harder to come by, people i do believe would have a far greater chance of giving the sodding things up.

so thats my grouse for the day -

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So all I have to do in order to serve him, is to work out exactly how improbable he is, feed that figure into the finite improbability generator, give him a fresh cup of really hot tea ... and turn him on!

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RE: Can I ever cut it as a Dom? - 4/4/2011 12:17:05 PM   
RapierFugue


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ORIGINAL: ranja

Rapier, bit nit picky about two letters the wrong way around aren't we?


*chortle*

You made 2 wholly or partially untrue statements. If you wish to continue to believe they are correct statements then that's entirely your own business, not mine.

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