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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/16/2011 3:14:18 PM   
Rochsub2009


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If shes really hot then she wants money.


There it is in all it's simplicity. 



Sadly, there is probably some truth to this. 

I think back to the two hottest Dommes that I have met in real life (as opposed to on-line).  While they are both lifestyle Dommes, and neither of them would call themselves "financial Dommes", they are the only two Dommes who have ever told me that as part of submitting to them I would be responsible for paying a few of their bills.  Despite this requirement, they are two of the most in-demand Dommes I know.

Frankly, I can't judge them for this.  It's just using their assets to their fullest potential.  If you're hot enough to command money from men simply to be in your presence, then more power to you.  That's not prostitution, that's good business.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/16/2011 10:45:47 PM   
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Frankly, I can't judge them for this.  It's just using their assets to their fullest potential.  If you're hot enough to command money from men simply to be in your presence, then more power to you.  That's not prostitution, that's good business.
I don't know the measure of hotness being used here, but I wanted to say, I've been with a slave who paid for everything when/while we were together, including lots of shopping. I didn't demand money from him. Since him, my other potentials have simply been gentlemen who paid when we were out on dates.

Domination is just that, and sometimes it includes EVERYTHING about the man being dominated; hopefully, no one demands money, outside a relationship. Naturally, someone demanding open walets, would make most men rashy. I'm of the position described by a book title: "I free, but it's going to cost you." M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 2:01:12 AM   
Ariane23


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Status: offline 		There are a lot of misconceptions here. Financial Domination is a legitimate kink, I know a few people who practice it on one side or the other. It IS NOT the same as being a Pro-Domme.

However, as people have said, asking for money on the profile is a sign of a fake or scammer. As is the word 'tribute'.

From one of my own journals:

Any man who has been on this site more than 5 minutes knows that there are a load of fake financial Dommes on here.  
Don't mistake me for one of them.  
I would be prepared to consider financial domination, but it's not the only kind of domination I do, and anyone approaching me for it had best be prepared to answer a lot of questions. Especially if a blackmail scenario is involved.  
You see, I believe in the Sane part of Safe, Sane and Consentual. I won't take on just any nutter with his wallet open.  
Note that I said "anyone who approaches me." Unlike the fake Dommes, I do not approach subs and try to push for financial domination. You have to ask for it. Or at the very least have it on your profile for me to mention it.  
For those who enjoy winding up the fake Dommes, have fun. But don't think for a moment that your games bother me. You come to me, I don't come asking for your money. A few messages exchanged doesn't even count as time wasting. If you think you can make me jump through hoops because you said you have an expensive car, I will only laugh at you.  
You see, I work part time by choice. I'm not a materialistic person. I don't have any interest in your expensive car or other outward show of wealth. Oh yes I would take your money if you were for real. Choosing to value my time for artistic pursuits and live on less money means I don't have spare cash for poncy coffees and meals out. I'll happily let a sub who passes inspection treat me to these things. But if they were that important to me, I would work full time.   
The good news is that if I've let you send me chocolates, I must like you. ;)

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 5:02:42 AM   
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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 5:19:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		We're new to this website and for the first time I witness using domination as business. Submission is a gift the submissive gives to the dominant. It's a mutual need, desire or even craving if you ask me.

LOL.
Couldn't help the thought of me buying my Master new shoes to give me a firm spanking. haha.
Mi.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 5:27:29 AM   
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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 5:35:55 AM   
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If you think you can make me jump through hoops because you said you have an expensive car, I will only laugh at you.   You see, I work part time by choice. I'm not a materialistic person. I don't have any interest in your expensive car or other outward show of wealth. .... Choosing to value my time for artistic pursuits and live on less money means I don't have spare cash for poncy coffees and meals out. I'll happily let a [man] who passes inspection treat me to these things. But if they were that important to me, I would work full time.    The good news is that if I've let you send me chocolates, I must like you. ;)


This pretty much sums up my philosophy, or the philosophy I will have when I stop working full time, move back to MA, and become earthy-crunchy again.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 6:54:56 AM   
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This pretty much sums up my philosophy, or the philosophy I will have when I stop working full time, move back to MA, and become earthy-crunchy again.



Glad to see someone gets it. I wouldn't trade the time I spend on creativity for any amount of money. I do like nice things, but it's a matter of making choices. My part time job covers the basic expenses, as long as I'm a bit careful.

But at the same time, I'm a bit old fashioned and perfectly happy to let a man take me out, and a bit new fashioned in that I can appreciate the kind of power exchange involved in proper financial domination. I'm a bit of a nightmare to someone who wants to impress me with money though. Money = power so I regard it as an attempt to top from the bottom.

If someone is genuinely into the kink, I'm up for playing the game. But woe to the sap who tries to mess me about under the mistaken impression that I'm going to have £ signs sparkling in my eyes.

Oh, and Godiva is my favourite. ;)

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 7:03:00 AM   
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Ester Price Candies
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HHHMMMM... Goes to phone book to look up location of Ester Price Candies....


Helen Grace is better in that range. Their peanut butter Easter eggs are divine...;)

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 7:39:08 AM   
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We're new to this website and for the first time I witness using domination as business. Submission is a gift the submissive gives to the dominant. It's a mutual need, desire or even craving if you ask me.

LOL.
Couldn't help the thought of me buying my Master new shoes to give me a firm spanking. haha.
Mi.

You have never known a woman who financially supported her boyfriend? Ever, in your whole life?

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 8:29:56 AM   
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If you think you can make me jump through hoops because you said you have an expensive car, I will only laugh at you.   You see, I work part time by choice. I'm not a materialistic person. I don't have any interest in your expensive car or other outward show of wealth. .... Choosing to value my time for artistic pursuits and live on less money means I don't have spare cash for poncy coffees and meals out. I'll happily let a [man] who passes inspection treat me to these things. But if they were that important to me, I would work full time.    The good news is that if I've let you send me chocolates, I must like you. ;)


This pretty much sums up my philosophy, or the philosophy I will have when I stop working full time, move back to MA, and become earthy-crunchy again.
Count me in among the people who feel this way. Ever since I reproduced, I've been working part time, So, being able to buy more stuff, too 100th seat, after time, and care of my uhm. My uhm has never had to stay with strangers, and I've only been away from the uhm twice, going outside of the country.

I don't care in the least that I could reach 6 figure salary, if it means less time with him, and me paying strangers to nurture, discipline, teach, and have fun with him.

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RedMagic1
You have never known a woman who financially supported her boyfriend? Ever, in your whole life?
Exactly! M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 8:56:53 AM   
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I don't know the measure of hotness being used here, but I wanted to say, I've been with a slave who paid for everything when/while we were together, including lots of shopping. I didn't demand money from him. Since him, my other potentials have simply been gentlemen who paid when we were out on dates.


And that's fine.  In fact, I think it's rather typical (though I don't have enough data to support that assertion).  I assume that many (most?) male subs/slave probably buy things for their Domme, pay for dates, etc.  I know that I certainly do.  Frankly, I'm a bit old-fashioned, and I just consider that to be chivalry.

But that's not the behavior that I was referring to.  You specifically said that you didn't demand money.  So you're not the type of Domme that I was referring to.  What I meant was a Domme who DEMANDS that you pay a few of her bills as a condition for servitude.  For example, she might say "If you want to be my slave, you have to pay my car note ($450/month) and my cell phone bill ($120/month)".  If those financial conditions are not accepted, the sub/slave is rejected.

Those are the type of examples that I was referring to.  For these Dommes, financial support is a stipulation for service.  Yet, they don't consider themselves to be financial Dommes.  It's purely supply and demand.  The women I'm referring to are unbelievably hot, so they have enough suitors that they can always get someone to accept their conditions.  Men are just predictable like that.  A hot woman will ALWAYS be able to get men to spend lots of money on her.  And frankly, she doesn't even have to put out to get the cash.  So I disagree with those who immediately call those women "prostitutes".  They're not prostitutes.  But life has taught them that extraordinarily good looks hold a certain level of sway over most men.

In short, it pays to be hot.  Literally. 

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 12:05:27 PM   
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Count me in among the people who feel this way. Ever since I reproduced, I've been working part time, So, being able to buy more stuff, too 100th seat, after time, and care of my uhm. My uhm has never had to stay with strangers, and I've only been away from the uhm twice, going outside of the country.

I don't care in the least that I could reach 6 figure salary, if it means less time with him, and me paying strangers to nurture, discipline, teach, and have fun with him.


That's beautiful :) If only more parents believed that way.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 12:12:32 PM   
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The women I'm referring to are unbelievably hot, so they have enough suitors that they can always get someone to accept their conditions.  Men are just predictable like that.  A hot woman will ALWAYS be able to get men to spend lots of money on her.  And frankly, she doesn't even have to put out to get the cash.  So I disagree with those who immediately call those women "prostitutes".  They're not prostitutes.  But life has taught them that extraordinarily good looks hold a certain level of sway over most men.


I know a Domme who has a client who gave her a Jaguar and lets her live in his $2,000,000 house on the water. She's one of the unhappiest people I know. I am quite content with my average looks and 10 year old car.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 12:57:41 PM   
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I know a Domme who has a client who gave her a Jaguar and lets her live in his $2,000,000 house on the water. She's one of the unhappiest people I know. I am quite content with my average looks and 10 year old car.


I didn't mean to imply that money could buy happiness.  It most certainly can't.

My point was that hot looks can get men to open up their wallets.  Whether the money they give hot women actually makes those women happy is an entirely different matter.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 3:33:21 PM   
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But that's not the behavior that I was referring to.  You specifically said that you didn't demand money.  So you're not the type of Domme that I was referring to.  What I meant was a Domme who DEMANDS that you pay a few of her bills as a condition for servitude.  For example, she might say "If you want to be my slave, you have to pay my car note ($450/month) and my cell phone bill ($120/month)".  If those financial conditions are not accepted, the sub/slave is rejected.
You're still missing the point, arguing beauty to be the primary factor a domina would/could get money. I'll try to explain better here. I have dated poor men, where I basically supported our household. If a man doesn't have money, that doesn't mean he isn't worthy. Nor does it mean he's a gigolo, or waste of a human being. If however, I'm dating a very financially comfortable man, and he says, you can dominate everything about me, but you will have any say regarding my money, and your bills will never become part of my service/submission to you, he'd be gone. Cheap is a hard limit of mine.

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For these Dommes, financial support is a stipulation for service.  Yet, they don't consider themselves to be financial Dommes.  It's purely supply and demand.  The women I'm referring to are unbelievably hot, so they have enough suitors that they can always get someone to accept their conditions.  Men are just predictable like that.  A hot woman will ALWAYS be able to get men to spend lots of money on her.  And frankly, she doesn't even have to put out to get the cash.  So I disagree with those who immediately call those women "prostitutes".  They're not prostitutes.  But life has taught them that extraordinarily good looks hold a certain level of sway over most men.
I don't know why they wouldn't consider selves financial dommes, if they're asking that some financial service be part of the submission. In my view, the only reason they may not call selves financial dommes, may be the ambiguity of the line between submissive, and John. I don't even know why they have to ask, especially if they're so hot. As I've said earlier, gold digging is for amateurs.
If a man is a submissive, I presume he submits... We, in the relationship, negotiate the lengths to which he will submit, and what would be hard limits.
Realize also, that this happens with male doms, and fem submissives as well. It's only when women do it, that they are called prosptitutes, and whores; because most men would sooner accept castration from a domme, rather than submit financially.

Every Domme has a right to dominante to her specifications, and let the chips fall where they may. Every submissive can choose to comply with any domina's rules, or leave.
Being hot is defintely a good thing.

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That's beautiful :) If only more parents believed that way.
Thank you. M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 3:55:37 PM   
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Every Domme has a right to dominante to her specifications, and let the chips fall where they may. Every submissive can choose to comply with any domina's rules, or leave.
Being hot is defintely a good thing.


I agree.  Unless I'm missing something, I think we're saying the same thing in different ways. 


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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/17/2011 5:37:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL! I'll have to try those! Unfortunately I have discovered that I am in a category that you have expressed dis-interest in. What am I going to do with this box of Mixed Creams?

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/18/2011 12:47:22 AM   
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A real Domme will enter into conversation and discuss mutual kinks etc.
Actually, I disagree that a real Domme will enter into a conversation, and discuss mutual kinks... Granting, I've always suspected I'd fail the test of wealness as a kinkster.

I would simply have a discussion about us as human beings who may fit symbiotically. Kinks are not to be brought up, unless I initiate it, or ask a question about it. M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/18/2011 2:56:10 AM   
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LOL! I'll have to try those! Unfortunately I have discovered that I am in a category that you have expressed dis-interest in. What am I going to do with this box of Mixed Creams?


I'll happily accept the mixed creams. And discuss what we DO have in common. ;)

I did say that my catchphrase is that I'm inconsistent...as long as you're not a toilet slave. That one's a hard limit and even chocolate won't change it.

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