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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 3:44:02 AM   
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Oh no....it's the right video, very right indeed.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 5:58:42 AM   
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Thank You SunshineMiss!

It's a touching video and it adds another element to our discussion on externals that I had not considered.

I have a friend of extreme height. He is used to people approaching him with "May I ask you a question?" Of course he already knows the question. "I'm seven one (Ma'am or sir.)" He's always so gracious that it never occured to me that he might be sick of it.

When I first met him I asked the question of somebody else. ;-P

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 6:48:52 AM   
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And now I am reminded of that line I love, from the movie 'Erin Brockovich'.

'They're called boobs, Ed.'

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 7:09:55 AM   
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LOL! We do seem to be facinated with them! I think that it starts about sixth grade. Suddenly the girls that are your contemporaries are changing; and, it hits you that girls REALLY ARE different. Of course that may be another observation that is exclusive to me.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 7:28:50 AM   
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Don't count on it.  Check out a South Park episode called, "Bebe's Boobs Destroy Society". 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southparkstudios.com%2Ffull-episodes%2Fs06e10-bebes-boobs-destroy-society&rct=j&q=south%20park%20bebe&ei=dZutTdGJHeLiiAL5_JDcDA&usg=AFQjCNFzutlKNbmFjQl-dKSjd_pQQG1Upw&cad=rja


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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 8:00:30 AM   
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Again LOL! Thanks Lady Pact! I'm glad to see that I'm not alone. I thought that maybe I'd given my facination TOO MUCH analysis. Mike

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 8:47:44 AM   
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As someone who's genetics pretty much guaranteed an awareness of the boob fascination, I can honestly say you are not alone.


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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 8:59:16 AM   
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You're the one who used Cinderella as an example, and your intentions are for you to know, just as mine are for me to know.

That sounds like a tough formula and motive for written communication here. I think I explained my rationale for mentioning the above clearly, which had nothing to do with deep commentary on western archetypes of beauty, or even Cinderella herself, so much as the jealous reaction of her sisters.


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My point was, that not all people who may not be "the Western" model of beauty, envy, or aspire to be "the thin, tall, blonde, blue eyed model type.

I don't take any issue with that comment, because I agree with it, and I think most easily would, too. The point, however, was that when you are in western society and thus fit the "western model of beauty", you are aggressively pursued for it. As for this model of beauty only belonging to the west, while not visiting every culture on Earth, I've been to many parts of the world, including the Middle East, where men go even more bonkers over pretty Women. I have not visited a place yet where "archetypal western girls" are not appreciated.


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You almost sound like human jealousy/cruelty toward one another, was created by ugly people, as a result of beauty's priviledge.

If you inferred that absolute meaning from my writing, then you've taken me out of context. I was stating a reality as I've perceived and experienced it. Beauty can be a boon, but it can also be a detriment in certain environments, hence the blessing and curse duality of it all.

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/19/2011 9:51:06 AM   
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I just did a post on this earlier today.

Basically, the approach you describe pretty much guarantees you're being approached by a scammer. It's probably not even a woman.

A real Domme will enter into conversation and discuss mutual kinks etc.

Financial domniation is a legitimate kink, but it's about control, like controlling sex. Someone who demands money to talk to them is just after your cash.



Amen Sista!

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 12:14:04 AM   
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The nastiness can be downright brutal at times and i think you have to be well adjusted and able to rise above it to avoid swimming in the trenches with people that take great pride in marring anyone they perceive as better in some capacity. And when you start adding on the accomplishments and differentiating yourself from others the response can be very telling. As long as we're all one in the same it's okay, but don't stray too far from the pack or someone might get their feelings hurt.
Namaste,
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Porcelaine, you know I like, and respect you. However, you must realize we all have our crosses to bear.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Are you, with the above statement, insinuating that, people who are perceived as unattractive, do not get sneered, laughed at, ignored, bullied, persecuted, disrespected by women, and men, (especially if they are with with a partner, deemed more desirable/attractive by the masses), to their breaking point, if not VERY WELL adjusted?

I agree, on the boards, fat threads usually are not well received, and don't think they should be. I don't recall "many beautiful people suck in a bad way" threads either. I don't condone hateful behavior toward anyone, especially if they've done nothing outside of genetics/nature, to deserve it.

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i've heard some really interesting things over the years and it's one of the reasons i'm very selective about the company i keep. i find the idea of sameness is horribly rampant in many circles as is the notion that we're all going about 'this' in an identical fashion. i don't believe women are the only persons guilty of this behavior. i've endured comments from the opposite sex that were often echoed in an attempt to downplay our differences to the degree where my attributes were negative if he lacked the same exposure or experiences. i don't find these things insulting per se, but merely note it's a sensitive issue for him and one i cannot abide.
Shall I tell you stories about being judged, and mistreated for being/looking different? Fitting in because I'm this, not fitting in because I am that; being myself, and walking the line, not to feed into stereotypes, and simply wanting to be understood for who I am, not what I'm "supposed to be?" I say I, because I don't speak for other human beings, and their experiences.

I mean no disrespect, when I say, if being expected to walk in lock step with the group, being checked out because of my beauty, and disliked by some women are my biggest problems, I would count my blessings every day. I cannot tell you how many times I receive an offensive email, or get cursed, when I reject a person. It's usually predictable, "you have an astute grasp of the obvious" stuff, so I don't care at all.

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LaTigresse
If we make fun of fat people, ugly people, stupid people.....whatever we perceive as being something less desirable to BE........people will jump all over us for being cruel. But, it is somehow acceptable to be cruel and snarky to, about, those that we perceive as being or having, something we all want.
That's because it is cruel/unkind, but it is done, just the same.
I recall reading something to the effect of fat people disgust you. I don't recall anyone jumping all over you for it, because you've a right to have your choice. I try not to worry about people's choices, since I have my own. I don't condone cruelty toward anyone, whether done to perceived unattractive people, or perceived attractive ones.

I like your sig line by the way.
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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!


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SaharahEve
The point, however, was that when you are in western society and thus fit the "western model of beauty", you are aggressively pursued for it. As for this model of beauty only belonging to the west, while not visiting every culture on Earth, I've been to many parts of the world, including the Middle East, where men go even more bonkers over pretty Women. I have not visited a place yet where "archetypal western girls" are not appreciated.
This is a complicated one, for another time, maybe.

I hope no one takes this discussion personally, by the way. M



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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 1:20:35 AM   
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Porcelaine, you know I like, and respect you. However, you must realize we all have our crosses to bear.


Greetings M,

Thank you for the kind words. i echo the same and have always enjoyed your posts. :)

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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Are you, with the above statement, insinuating that, people who are perceived as unattractive, do not get sneered, laughed at, ignored, bullied, persecuted, disrespected by women, and men, (especially if they are with men, deemed more desirable/attractive by the masses), to their breaking point, if not VERY WELL adjusted?


No, i'm positing that there's a blatant double standard which suggests it's wrong to make comments towards groups of people or subject matters that can be highly charged but perfectly acceptable to denounce its opposite. In addition, i was referencing my experiences within the BDSM landscape and the insecure individuals i've encountered that have a horrible time reconciling difference if it implies betterment. my remarks reflect an unwillingness to entertain passive aggressive jabs or embrace group think to keep the peace.

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I agree, on the boards, fat threads usually are not well received, and don't think they should be. I don't recall "many beautiful people suck in a bad way" threads either. I don't condone hateful behavior toward anyone, especially if they've done nothing outside of genetics/nature, to deserve it.


Weight is a very sensitive issue and a noted sacred cow for many. The mere fact that preferences in this area incite such agitation when others are perfectly acceptable is truly sad in my opinion. Nonetheless, no one should be subject to backlashes for remaining true to themselves. Nor should one project private struggles with certain problems onto unsuspecting strangers. Individuals that berate larger parties are no uglier than persons of size that make disparaging remarks about thinner people. However, the latter is often overlooked but the reverse would be quickly pounced upon in most instances.

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Shall I tell you stories about being judged, and mistreated for being/looking different? Fitting in because I'm this, not fitting in because I am that; being myself, and walking the line, not to feed into stereotypes, and simply wanting to be understood for who I am, not what I'm "supposed to be?" I say I, because I don't speak for other human beings, and their experiences.


Once upon a time i desired to be understood and heard. But that mindset required an investment of energy that could be relegated to more important pursuits. It is my sincerest belief that those that wish to know me will take the time to see the woman in all her guises. i needn't do anything to make her presence known or call attention to myself outside of my usual way of being. For i've found that ones glow can never be dimmed unless we elect to cover it. In my opinion, it is unnecessary for me to concern myself with those that don't get it, for we're not vibrating on the same level and they dwell in a place that is unsuitable for me. When a true lack of understanding exists and the individual desires clarification, questions are presented to the other party. They don't make foolish assumptions or resort to knee jerk reactions. Empathy is never ugly.

As for ill treatment, i adopted a motto many moons ago that still holds true. i am like a hill. Deep and plush and nothing sticks to my person that i didn't intentionally plant. People are free to foist whatever thoughts, words, or other shenanigans in my direction if they desire to do such. But the impact these things have is entirely in my control. And i'm committed to enriching my beauty, not allowing undesirable subjects to mar it. The daggers don't break my stride. They toughen the hide instead. This doesn't negate the stumbles or the harshness of the lessons that follow. However, just like the phoenix another day comes and as Maya said, "Still i rise."

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I mean no disrespect, when I say, if being expected to walk in lock step with the group, being checked out because of my beauty, and disliked by some women are my biggest problems, I would count my blessings every day. I cannot tell you how many times I receive an offensive email, or get cursed, when I reject a person. It's usually predictable, "you have an astute grasp of the obvious" stuff, so I don't care at all.


i didn't find your words disrespectful at all. my life is built upon principles of compassion and i show no favoritism towards either side. i think it's always easier to believe the grass is greener when we're not rolling around in it. While it is disconcerting on some level the lengths we will undertake to tear down what could be positively expanded, i remain cognizant that growth is individual and i have my own imperfections that are being addressed. So i exercise patience and try to be mindful that we're all a work in progress. But that doesn't imply acceptance. i dwell in possibility and regardless of its guise, a serpent placed in ones bosom will maim its victim. i make no distinction where unpleasantness is concerned.

It is important that i'm benefiting from good energy and that means discernment in my liaisons both male and female. Persons that are woefully unbalanced and unable to recognize their beauty in all is uniqueness without feeling threatened by other parties are people i typically avoid. my friendships edify a brand of brotherhood that motivates and uplifts. When they expand i'm happy and take pleasure in any assistance i provided in that vain. And in my opinion that mindset begins at home and spills over into other areas. i seek the same connections with male companions and take care not to ingest negativity in its various forms. For the rejected party isn't cursing you, but is merely projecting the root cause behind their inability to accept your decision. It isn't about 'you' but the one that caused the scar that continues to ooze.

Namaste,

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 1:31:04 AM   
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I like the way you think, and there isn't anything in that post I can argue with. M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 3:37:19 AM   
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It is important that i'm benefiting from good energy and that means discernment in my liaisons both male and female. Persons that are woefully unbalanced and unable to recognize their beauty in all is uniqueness without feeling threatened by other parties are people i typically avoid. my friendships edify a brand of brotherhood that motivates and uplifts.
Namaste,
~porcelaine
Now, if only all women/people could grasp this, and give up the need to tear down another, in order to feed their inner parasites.
If only people recognized their own insecurities, and deamons, so as not to project them unto others.
MY goal, is definitely to be around positive energy, while emanating the same... A little difficult with family, but damned if I ain't goint to try. M


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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 6:54:16 AM   
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If we make fun of fat people, ugly people, stupid people.....whatever we perceive as being something less desirable to BE........people will jump all over us for being cruel. But, it is somehow acceptable to be cruel and snarky to, about, those that we perceive as being or having, something we all want.
That's because it is cruel/unkind, but it is done, just the same.
I recall reading something to the effect of fat people disgust you. I don't recall anyone jumping all over you for it, because you've a right to have your choice. I try not to worry about people's choices, since I have my own. I don't condone cruelty toward anyone, whether done to perceived unattractive people, or perceived attractive ones.

I like your sig line by the way.
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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!





There are many things that disgust me. I sincerely doubt I made a blanket statement about fat people disgusting me and left it at that. With that tone. Given the nature of whatever discussion you are mentioning, and the intent in which I more than likely wrote what ever you are recalling, I would assume I would not be criticized. Especially since I have had my own weight and fitness struggles over the last few years. Something I am only just this last year, getting control over.

Penises also disgust me but I tend to like quite a few people that have them.




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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 8:16:07 AM   
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Now, if only all women/people could grasp this, and give up the need to tear down another, in order to feed their inner parasites.


i don't desire for people to grasp that concept. Self love is borne from within and when it takes root the manifestation is externally realized. Understanding something that one cannot edify is rather pointless.

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If only people recognized their own insecurities, and deamons, so as not to project them unto others.


The most benevolent gift we can give is to become the embodiment of our truth rather than its keynote speaker. And when this happens we draw to us others that share a similar philosophy.

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MY goal, is definitely to be around positive energy, while emanating the same... A little difficult with family, but damned if I ain't goint to try.


When most find themselves in the midst of a dramatic shift in consciousness it usually strikes in an area that the individual never expected. This is what hastens the slumber and gets their attention. Chaos always does. You can determine this on your own (to some degree) by discovering your imbalances. There are four planes to our person. Consider what percentage that you devote to each and note the disparities. Now think about the challenges you've endured. i'm willing to bet that is where the lessons come. There's always a recurring theme but most never connect the dots.

For instance, a woman has a string of unsuccessful relationships. At first glance most assume she chooses the wrong men and that's the crux of her problem. Yet our propensity to deduce should note that if poor decision-making were a major culprit that problem would replicate itself tenfold. But that is rarely the case. One specific area suffers time and time again. That's because the diagnosis is incomplete. Another catalyst is involved and her relationships are the beneficiary of what life is attempting to teach. It is merely an area that gets her attention and one she cannot ignore.

So while you mention your family as being a subject of desired change. Perhaps your experiences have little to do with them but provide an unmistakable opportunity for you to develop what is missing. It is never about the other person and always related to oneself. Always look for negative patterns. They're life's not so gentle way of saying wake up.

Namaste,

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/20/2011 11:12:24 PM   
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Perhaps your experiences have little to do with them but provide an unmistakable opportunity for you to develop what is missing. It is never about the other person and always related to oneself. Always look for negative patterns. They're life's not so gentle way of saying wake up.
Namaste,
~porcelaine
I'm awake, and understand everything happens to teach me/us something.
Do you have any advice on how to recover 1 or 2 previously lovely D/s relationships, sabotaged before I knew I was a domina, and that they were exactly what I sought (sub/servce oriented)?
I think I've learned quite enough. M

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/21/2011 8:52:44 AM   
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I'm awake, and understand everything happens to teach me/us something.
Do you have any advice on how to recover 1 or 2 previously lovely D/s relationships, sabotaged before I knew I was a domina, and that they were exactly what I sought (sub/servce oriented)?
I think I've learned quite enough.


Why do you long for what existed when you were asleep? Your ignorance of the truth had an appropriate complement. If the individuals you partnered with required something different and were consciously aware of this, it is unlikely the relationship would have ever commenced. You idealize a reunion that could only come about if the individuals remained in a stasis since the departure. The wheel has turned and yesterday is no more. There's also the greater question if whether either could handle you as you are at present.

In turning the microscope upon yourself to reflect on your imperfections and mistakes, you've failed to ask a pivotal question in the process. Why did these individuals find favor in the woman i was at that time given what i've discovered? What were they lacking that allowed our paths to merge? As you know, two people cannot walk hand in hand unless they compliment. Dig deeper.

Namaste,

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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/21/2011 9:23:11 AM   
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An excellent point.

I've had great relationships with great people. The reasons for the relationships ending are varied but regardless of the other person's perceived responsibility for the relationships end, I consider I share at least 50%.

As much as I may hold fond memories and wish it progressed differently, I know now that each had it's time and lessons........yet, cannot and should not be revisited as current relationship potential. It just would not work.


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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/23/2011 8:47:03 PM   
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Perhaps your experiences have little to do with them but provide an unmistakable opportunity for you to develop what is missing. It is never about the other person and always related to oneself. Always look for negative patterns. They're life's not so gentle way of saying wake up.
Namaste,
~porcelaine
I'm awake, and understand everything happens to teach me/us something.
Do you have any advice on how to recover 1 or 2 previously lovely D/s relationships, sabotaged before I knew I was a domina, and that they were exactly what I sought (sub/servce oriented)?
I think I've learned quite enough. M


your life your thinking and "everything" about you would need to be the identical.

Would you really want to make the same mistakes all over again that you made when younger?

That and there is an old financial saying that goes like "past performance is not an indicator of future performance", and as applied here....though it was good then does not mean it would still be good today had you stuck with them.




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RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell th... - 4/24/2011 2:50:03 AM   
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Perhaps your experiences have little to do with them but provide an unmistakable opportunity for you to develop what is missing. It is never about the other person and always related to oneself. Always look for negative patterns. They're life's not so gentle way of saying wake up.
Namaste,
~porcelaine
I'm awake, and understand everything happens to teach me/us something.
Do you have any advice on how to recover 1 or 2 previously lovely D/s relationships, sabotaged before I knew I was a domina, and that they were exactly what I sought (sub/servce oriented)?
I think I've learned quite enough. M


your life your thinking and "everything" about you would need to be the identical.

Would you really want to make the same mistakes all over again that you made when younger?

That and there is an old financial saying that goes like "past performance is not an indicator of future performance", and as applied here....though it was good then does not mean it would still be good today had you stuck with them.
I wasnt really looking for an answer, as I do realize the past is at this point, just a figment of my imagination. I also realize, it taught me who I am, and taken me to this lighter, more comfortable sense of me. It was/is all good. M

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