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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

oh I must go out and buy an i pad
I must
I must have it

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Maybe you, like millions of other common folk, could use some of the money youre making from oil company stocks to buy one

That is, if you have been smart enough to put some 401k money away over the years

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

oh I must go out and buy an i pad
I must
I must have it

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

And at the same time we send 2 billion dollars to Brazil to help them drill for oil. What a farce.

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This claim stems from a "preliminary committment" made back on April 14 by the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. The bank intends to loan up to $2 billion to finance exports to the Brazilian oil company Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., known as Petrobras, over the next several years.

The e-mail is false on two counts.

■The message falsely says the decision was due to an "executive order" by the president. No presidential order was required. Furthermore, none of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex-Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan. The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush."
■The message falsely claims that "we have absolutely no gain" from the loan. In fact, the loan is being made specifically to finance purchase by Petrobras of U.S.-made oilfield equipment and services. The mission of the Ex-Im Bank is to encourage exports by making such loans.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
I am posting this in mind of the way so many Leftists on these discussion boards repeatedly deny that the president has anything to do with Americas ability to obtain cheap, plentiful fuel.

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In fact, the loan is being made specifically to finance purchase by Petrobras of U.S.-made oilfield equipment and services

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The oil companies dont need the money, in fact, they should be assessed a MASSIVE TAX, they have massive amounts of land under federal lease laying idle.

What happened to drill baby drill?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I am posting this in mind of the way so many Leftists on these discussion boards repeatedly deny that the president has anything to do with Americas ability to obtain cheap, plentiful fuel.

Beside Americas energy independence, also at stake are the trade imbalance as well as the Alaskan economy.

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Energy in America: EPA Rules Force Shell to Abandon Oil Drilling Plans

[image]http://video.foxnews.com/thumbnails/042511/640/360/springer_energy_FNC_042511_12-44.jpg[/image]





Shell Oil Company has announced it must scrap efforts to drill for oil this summer in the Arctic Ocean off the northern coast of Alaska. The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits. The move has angered some in Congress and triggered a flurry of legislation aimed at stripping the EPA of its oil drilling oversight.

Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas. The leases alone cost $2.2 billion. Shell Vice President Pete Slaiby says obtaining similar air permits for a drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico would take about 45 days. He’s especially frustrated over the appeal board’s suggestion that the Arctic drill would somehow be hazardous for the people who live in the area. “We think the issues were really not major,” Slaiby said, “and clearly not impactful for the communities we work in.”

The closest village to where Shell proposed to drill is Kaktovik, Alaska. It is one of the most remote places in the United States. According to the latest census, the population is 245 and nearly all of the residents are Alaska natives. The village, which is 1 square mile, sits right along the shores of the Beaufort Sea, 70 miles away from the proposed off-shore drill site. The EPA’s appeals board ruled that Shell had not taken into consideration emissions from an ice-breaking vessel when calculating overall greenhouse gas emissions from the project. Environmental groups were thrilled by the ruling.

“What the modeling showed was in communities like Kaktovik, Shell’s drilling would increase air pollution levels close to air quality standards,” said Eric Grafe, Earthjustice’s lead attorney on the case. Earthjustice was joined by Center for Biological Diversity and the Alaska Wilderness League in challenging the air permits.

At stake is an estimated 27 billion barrels of oil.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/25/energy-america-oil-drilling-denial/#ixzz1KcnkIEKP

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I am posting this in mind of the way so many Leftists on these discussion boards repeatedly deny that the president has anything to do with Americas ability to obtain cheap, plentiful fuel.

Beside Americas energy independence, also at stake are the trade imbalance as well as the Alaskan economy.

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Energy in America: EPA Rules Force Shell to Abandon Oil Drilling Plans

[image]http://video.foxnews.com/thumbnails/042511/640/360/springer_energy_FNC_042511_12-44.jpg[/image]





Shell Oil Company has announced it must scrap efforts to drill for oil this summer in the Arctic Ocean off the northern coast of Alaska. The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits. The move has angered some in Congress and triggered a flurry of legislation aimed at stripping the EPA of its oil drilling oversight.

Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas. The leases alone cost $2.2 billion. Shell Vice President Pete Slaiby says obtaining similar air permits for a drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico would take about 45 days. He’s especially frustrated over the appeal board’s suggestion that the Arctic drill would somehow be hazardous for the people who live in the area. “We think the issues were really not major,” Slaiby said, “and clearly not impactful for the communities we work in.”

The closest village to where Shell proposed to drill is Kaktovik, Alaska. It is one of the most remote places in the United States. According to the latest census, the population is 245 and nearly all of the residents are Alaska natives. The village, which is 1 square mile, sits right along the shores of the Beaufort Sea, 70 miles away from the proposed off-shore drill site. The EPA’s appeals board ruled that Shell had not taken into consideration emissions from an ice-breaking vessel when calculating overall greenhouse gas emissions from the project. Environmental groups were thrilled by the ruling.

“What the modeling showed was in communities like Kaktovik, Shell’s drilling would increase air pollution levels close to air quality standards,” said Eric Grafe, Earthjustice’s lead attorney on the case. Earthjustice was joined by Center for Biological Diversity and the Alaska Wilderness League in challenging the air permits.

At stake is an estimated 27 billion barrels of oil.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/25/energy-america-oil-drilling-denial/#ixzz1KcnkIEKP

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The 2 billion loan should be used in our country to help our oil companies, not sent to Brazil to help them.

1. Canada … US$121.9 billion, up 26.8% from 2009 (19.9% of US total exports)
2. Mexico … $77.3 billion, up 31.8% (12.6%)
3. China … $41.2 billion, up 35.6% (6.7%)
4. Japan … $29.2 billion, up 18.1% (4.8%)
5. United Kingdom … $24.3 billion, up 6.4% (4%)
6. Germany … $23.2 billion, up 9.5% (3.8%)
7. South Korea … $19.2 billion, up 52.7% (3.1%)
8. Brazil … $16.4 billion, up 37.7% (2.7%)
9. Netherlands … $16.2 billion, down 1% (2.7%)
10. Singapore … $14.2 billion, up 42.4% (2.3%)
11. France … $13 billion, down 6.3% (2.1%)
12. Belgium … $12.3 billion, up 16.1% (2%)
13. Hong Kong … $12.3 billion, up 26.4% (2%)
14. Taiwan … $12.1 billion, up 59.5% (2%)
15. Australia … $10.5 billion, up 15.2% (1.7%)
16. Switzerland … $9.7 billion, up 7.6% (1.6%)
17. India … $9.2 billion, up 22.9% (1.5%)
18. Italy … $7 billion, up 14.6% (1.1%)
19. Malaysia … $6.6 billion, up 50.3% (1.1%)
20. Colombia … $5.9 billion, up 35.8% (1%).

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Thomas, I try to like you. I look at your pictures of the national parks, you fishing in a beautiful river and you drinking from a well.

You value these places and yet are willing to put them at risk?

Is it because it is not in your backyard? WTF?

You have the luxury to live and to be able to easily visit areas that have been set aside and have avoided the wrath of development and the damage it can undoubtedly bring.

Would you accept drilling in Yellowstone or Salmon-Challis? What if the wells became contaminated or that river no longer held fish?

I envy you. I am stuck here in Chicago, beautiful city, beautiful Lakefront. We watch as invasive species are routinely dropped into our waters and industrial spills happen along her tributaries. Good fishing, though. I think about the impact on Lake Michigan if a gulf type of spill were to happen here. It is simply not worth the risk.

Find alternatives. Charge more for gas. Don't fuck up the few unique and beautiful places left in this country.