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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 1:57:44 AM   
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many years ago when the net was all text based  people were more concerned with what others had to say then the manner it was said in.
Now it seems the manner  is more important then the content. The  common deciancy  and consideration springs up  as always  and rightley so . What ever possessed me to think that one would consider  haveing anything to do with another in a text based media when the other spelt badley.  Could that ber because most  in the text based media remain onley in that . Stats show that  the greater amount of people on line never mneet each other and that  the general reason is  cause of the clearity of the  content in their getting to know each other  and the impressions they have made by this means  they are unable to live up to cause it is all based in text form not in reality . The reality of it is that  it is not gramer  that causes  problems but  content . Mostley based on anonimity the 200 lb lady and  bucky the dog faced boy  can for sure hide in text these flaws. 

Are these sites about meeting others with like intrests or the ability to impress by correct english good grammer and style another so the briliance and charm of the article conceal the bull crap of the content .

Every one of us has flaws the other can find  and pick at  if we look  to see it . I joined this place to meet others and  have had  in correct spelling  good grammer  nice content  as have we likley all had  hurt .

   it is hard to be taken serriousley  from the hight of a chair .  but i have never hidden or lied about it  to anyone  . My handle is  my name  in life not  another  made up one  to hide behind . My email is [email protected]  also my name wit hmy inital.

   Maybe if i chose a name like  the highlordboss and used spell checker  i would get better responces .  Please realise i am not  taking ashot at anyone here  for the manner in howe they present them self  but for me i would rather honesty and sincerity anyday with bad grammer over  the other choice .

   intolerance  for  others is never a good thing   it is illegal to eat pussy in california  for example   to be struck with a flogger in some states is illegal



Since most people are agreeing with you I'm not sure what the problem is.

Maybe it was lost in translation?

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 3:05:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mrpettigrew

as i can not spell in english good  do not have a spell checker and  problems finding the correct words in english to express serlf to others in a style of great intrest  i am courious as to the  fact people make such a big deal over these things and show less concern about the person involved then the grammer used. I am not refuring to rudness but simple spelling  nothing more . i guress for  all here or the greater part  all who do not write the language to their standards are excluded as  fools or stupid . Comments welcome ,
 

I was taut thet the purpos of languege was two convay a thaught or ideia. If the mesag was trainsmited from one persone to anothier than the funktion and purpos was akomplieshed. Do knot worry bout it two mush as most peoples don kare.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 3:32:57 AM   
orfunboi


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Status: offline 		Your words are all you have to make a good first impression on someone, and yes intelligence is an important consideration when i am looking for a partner. i am not saying i expect perfect english and grammar, i don't use it, why would i expect someone else to. i do expect, when receiving email, to at least be able to read it. i know that english is not the first language for a lot, but i am pretty sure, most people are familiar with basic punctuation and sentence structure. It does not take a lot of time to reread what you wrote, nor is it impossible to find help. There are many programs out there that will spell check for you. There are also friends who can help.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 3:52:03 AM   
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mrpettigrew, English may not be your first language, but as you are attempting communication with people who primarily speak English, you would do well to work a little harder on your posts to make certain they are clear.  Nothing fancy, not perfect, just clear.  No, a spell checker does not solve all problems, but the use of "too" rather than "to" can be more easily forgiven than the use of "Inglish" rather than "English".

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 4:05:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mrpettigrew


  it is illegal to eat pussy in california  for example  


It is?? *envisions the Asshole Squad pulling up to a house....."put that cigarette out, that well-done steak down, and get that hair out from between your teeth, then come out with your hands up!!"*

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 5:55:46 AM   
heartfeltsub


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Status: offline 		While i am one who prefers the correct use of words, spelling and a lack of grammatical errors, i also make typos and occassionally make spelling and grammatical errors. And while i also would agree that allowances should be made for anyone for whom English is a second language, i have noticed a strange pattern in the OP's typing and English skills.

In his original post, he correctly spells the word English numerous times.

"as i can not spell in english good  do not have a spell checker and  problems finding the correct words in english to express serlf to others in a style of great intrest  i am courious as to the  fact people make such a big deal over these things and show less concern about the person involved then the grammer used. I am not refuring to rudness but simple spelling  nothing more . i guress for  all here or the greater part  all who do not write the language to their standards are excluded as  fools or stupid . Comments welcome , "

but then in his next post, he doesn't spell it correctly.

"you are ture in not seeing generaly  people slaming others whos first language in fact is not inglish but  most often  it is a think not asked or known when the  comments are made just assumed "

In one post he says that he doesn't have a spell checker, "do not have a spell checker ," and in another post, he comments on items that a spell checker won't correct, "love the sign of lazyness  to   2  two   too  all correct  to  be useds  and not found wrong on spell checker "

And then in his last post, he uses many multi-syllabic words that he said previous he has trouble with,

"many years ago when the net was all text based  people were more concerned with what others had to say then the manner it was said in.
Now it seems the manner  is more important then the content. The  common deciancy  and consideration springs up  as always  and rightley so . What ever possessed me to think that one would consider  haveing anything to do with another in a text based media when the other spelt badley.  Could that ber because most  in the text based media remain onley in that . Stats show that  the greater amount of people on line never mneet each other and that  the general reason is  cause of the clearity of the  content in their getting to know each other  and the impressions they have made by this means  they are unable to live up to cause it is all based in text form not in reality . The reality of it is that  it is not gramer  that causes  problems but  content . Mostley based on anonimity the 200 lb lady and  bucky the dog faced boy  can for sure hide in text these flaws. 

Are these sites about meeting others with like intrests or the ability to impress by correct english good grammer and style another so the briliance and charm of the article conceal the bull crap of the content .

Every one of us has flaws the other can find  and pick at  if we look  to see it . I joined this place to meet others and  have had  in correct spelling  good grammer  nice content  as have we likley all had  hurt .

  it is hard to be taken serriousley  from the hight of a chair .  but i have never hidden or lied about it  to anyone  . My handle is  my name  in life not  another  made up one  to hide behind . 

  Maybe if i chose a name like  the highlordboss and used spell checker  i would get better responces .  Please realise i am not  taking ashot at anyone here  for the manner in howe they present them self  but for me i would rather honesty and sincerity anyday with bad grammer over  the other choice .

  intolerance  for  others is never a good thing   it is illegal to eat pussy in california  for example   to be struck with a flogger in some states is illegal "

i just find the pattern very interesting.

heartfelt

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 6:06:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I want a slave who is educated, who can keep up with me (or almost <g>) on an intellectual basis.  While the occasional typos as well as spelling and grammar errors are understandable, if someone hasn't learned fluent language skills by the time he is old enough to consent to be a sub or slave, then he's not for me.  And I'm sorry, but not having a proper grasp of one's native language does reveal something about the person.  What it reveals to me, is that I don't need to know anything more about that person.

If someone is not a native speaker of English, that is another story entirely, of course.


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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 6:14:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a qualative difference between someone to who English is a second language and someone whose first language is English.

Accepting the normal typos and errors that people make when posting are usually because they are rushing and a post has a very limited life so the investment is not put into it. Grammar and articulation etc does give something of an indication to someones intelligence and education. While I don't judge people on such things, if I was looking for a relationship, I'm sure it would give me pointers as to whether I would be interested in someone or not. 

As just a straight forward post, as long as it is understandable I'm fine with it. Everyone has a right to have their say and IQ and education doesn't make anyone more important than the next person.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 6:59:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		As someone with a learning disablity, i have been known to leave words out and never notice it. I also can't spell for the life me. Please understand i am getting better thanks to my many many papers i have to do for school, but still. That is were i am weak. I can tell you everythign i am thinking, but tell me to put it on paper makes for one of the most frustrating things i come to know. Just finding the words to say what i want them to say, adn then to actually have that be what seem to mean are two very differnt things. I knwo peopel can read anythign into about anything but its improtant to be clear about your meaning, and that can be hard. Otherwise its just typos cause my mind is moving faster then my fingers.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 7:02:33 AM   
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i just find the pattern very interesting.

heartfelt



I noticed the same thing too. In fact when I started reading his last post I was confused to see that he could suddenly write coherently. What I also find interesting is that, even though everyone who responded agreed that exceptions are made for those who do not speak English as a first language, he continued to defend himself. I can only wonder why he would feel the need to do that, unless he's really in the "lazy and sloppy" camp and is just hiding behind the "poor English" excuse.

Which proves another point I had in mind regarding good use of the written word. It has ocurred to me that in many cases those who write sloppily/lazily also think that way.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 7:16:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think my post was in general agreement with your sentiments. We are using written communication which unfortunately does not give anywhere near adequate insight into a person or their situation but it is all that we have unless people are inclined to investigate people further.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 8:41:01 AM   
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For me, engaging in written conversation and discourse with my peers is something I do because it is enjoyable. I prefer to do that with someone who can do so on a fairly equal intellectual footing, because it makes the exchange of thoughts flow more smoothly. If my mind is preoccupied with trying to translate each sentence, each paragraph, correcting spelling to decipher words in a message, and I'm getting a general reaction of scratching my head and having to re-read a paragraph 4 times to figure out what the speaker is saying, the enjoyment is immensly depleted.

If we flip the equation, it's no different on the other side. I know *nothing* about automotive mechanics. If a bunch of my friends got together to work on cars for fun, and I was there putting sparkplugs in the tire valves, pouring oil in the gas tank, and putting the battery in the trunk, my friends would probably start getting greatly annoyed with me, and the enjoyment of the activity would transform into frustration with me. That doesn't mean they hate me or judge me. It just means they don't want to engage in that particular activity with me.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 9:50:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mrpettigrew

as i can not spell in english good  do not have a spell checker and  problems finding the correct words in english to express serlf to others in a style of great intrest  i am courious as to the  fact people make such a big deal over these things and show less concern about the person involved then the grammer used. I am not refuring to rudness but simple spelling  nothing more . i guress for  all here or the greater part  all who do not write the language to their standards are excluded as  fools or stupid . Comments welcome ,


My comment would be to let people know that you are just beginning to learn english.  Maybe the first sentence in an email or a post..  "Please excuse my spelling and grammar, I am just learning the english language."

If people continue to make you feel ignorant then my advice would be to just ignore them. 

Hope this helps in some way.
piscess

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 9:59:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OTKkindaGirl

BTW  thank you Lam.... for participating  *wink*

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 11:28:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		As someone who must admit to having this as a pet peeve as well and someone who admires ANY one who is bilingual, I suggest that perhaps, mrpettigrew, you would be better served to begin any posts to others with a disclaimer that you do not write in English very well, and that hopefully the reader will consider this when choosing to reply.  Maybe, just maybe, that will help cull out some of the mean and nasty "ha! you can't spell" retorts that really serve no other purpose than to be hurtful.

That being said, I will certainly remember this the next time I get "u r a bosse bitch", and do my best to be courteous... *laugh*

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 11:31:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

quote:

ORIGINAL: mrpettigrew

as i can not spell in english good  do not have a spell checker and  problems finding the correct words in english to express serlf to others in a style of great intrest  i am courious as to the  fact people make such a big deal over these things and show less concern about the person involved then the grammer used. I am not refuring to rudness but simple spelling  nothing more . i guress for  all here or the greater part  all who do not write the language to their standards are excluded as  fools or stupid . Comments welcome ,
 

I was taut thet the purpos of languege was two convay a thaught or ideia. If the mesag was trainsmited from one persone to anothier than the funktion and purpos was akomplieshed. Do knot worry bout it two mush as most peoples don kare.


A better display of "hooked on phonics" I have never seen, m'lady.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 11:42:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought that he was talking about people attacking those who do not have great writing skills. Of course people want to be evenly yolked to those they involve themselves with, but there is someone for everyone. There are subs that are not well written and there are dom/mes that are not either. They can hook up with each other or with someone who does not care about writing ability. It is one thing to desire someone on your intellectual level, but it is another thing to think that just because someone does not write well no one will ever want them... That is not true, and those who are writing challenged have a right to look for love or express an opinion as much as anyone else.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 11:50:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's a matter of taking care. Few vcomputers don't have Word or word processing software on them so if you have dyslexia or were not properly educated there is nothing to stop you typing elsewhere, spelling checking and then pasting in there.  It depends what someone is after. I like someone who has had a similar education to me, who has a similar background, reads a lot, writes, can help my family with their spellings and homework, is on a par with those I know and work and live with. That's all. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with people who can't write or spell and I certainly make enough typos myself. Width of vocabulary is a very good indicator too and I just like British men too so again it helps me filter on that basis too.    I must say the dominant men I've been out with have all written very well and spoken well too.  Also it may depend if someone is after a long term D/S relationship as I am or just wanting to play. I cede control to a man who is better than I am in most areas, cleverer etc. It is my principal filter and it works so well.

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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 8:59:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

And by the way MsMacComb I do LOVE your sense of humor.
For my vote, screw all that,  type here, paste there etc. By the time I did all that stuff with my CRS(can't remember shit) I would have already forgotten what I had written. For the record, I type here  do a proof read then hit ok. I make typos and do  make spelling errors same as everyone else. Actually I love typos they make me giggle sometimes. Only thing I won't do is try to use big fancy words, I like the simple things in life.



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RE: correct grammer - 5/11/2006 9:05:08 PM   
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fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

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