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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:36:54 PM

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The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well.

And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all.

The workers who work and work and produce and produce until the company is so successful it can buy automated machinery, cutting jobs to keep the bottom line up, oh and to pay higher divis to those important shareholders.
I guess soylent green will be in production soon, (no humans needed to run it)

Soylent Green!!!! Great movie. That being said, I love the utterly devoid of common sense argument that it is wrong to maximize profits. Yup...we should pay people $50.00 per hour to sink a screw through a piece of sheet metal...a job that a 5th grader could do after 20 minutes of instruction...rather than rely on the robotics that makes the plant more profitable. You know who thinks that is a great idea? The competition!!!!!! Oh...and Soylent Green will be offered in a variety of flavors in real life as opposed to the bran tasting stuff of the movie.

yeah Im afraid I suffer from compassion and caring.
nah I dont suffer it, I enjoy every freaking minute
caring about others and not "things" is incredible way to live your life
altho you may well not be able understand it
Im really sorry for you

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:39:59 PM

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And you whine and bitch and moan, for the corporations, but got nothing for jobs.

So, since this thread is about jobs, jobs, jobs, do you have anything in the GOP ideology that gets jobs?

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The prison population provides slave labour, and doesn't need paying.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:43:25 PM

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YES!!! Glad you asked. :) Reduce corporate income taxes to the same level as Canada. We tax our corporations 35.9% to Canada's 16%. On top of our federal corporate taxes, corporations pay very hefty real estate taxes and state income taxes as well. We have created an enromous disincentive to do business in this country. After reducing corporate tax rates, we increase tariffs on Chinese products. For every U.S. company that has relocated a certain percentage of its workforce overseas, the same tariff applies to them. Our government provides no funding to nations that have an adersarial stance to the U.S. [Do you realize we provided hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars to the U.S.S.R. throughout the cold war? Nope...all of that should be done. I sound a bit isolationist but would you give $100.00 to your enemy?] For every "police action" this country engages in, the country should be paid back either in currency or natural resources. The greatest threat to jobs in this country is the over spending of the Federal Government that causes it to endlessly siphon working capital out of the U.S. economy.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:45:14 PM

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yeah but they need feeding and housing and watching... ....ooops never mind,
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soylent mauve is mental miscreant lithium flavour?
soylent yellow is Sick fucker passion fruit flavour?

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:45:39 PM

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yeah Im afraid I suffer from compassion and caring.
nah I dont suffer it, I enjoy every freaking minute
caring about others and not "things" is incredible way to live your life
altho you may well not be able understand it
Im really sorry for you

A witless post! Business is business and charity/philanthropy is charity/philanthropy. If people are broke, it is hard to be charitable. If a business is not making money, it is difficult to employ people or make charitable contributions. This is the real world.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:54:07 PM

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witless??? you dont understand wit , you are wit challenged
if wit were shit, you would be constipated.
it all comes down to money & profit huh
again, I feel for you
well I would if I could but I cant so I wont
my day doesnt revolve around pleasing you ...nor will it ever.

so do me one favour, where are the jobs??? lets get back to the facts
how many jobs have the GOP created??? why arent they doing more, when will any of that 19 % of your people be employed and able to live functional lives?

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:58:38 PM

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Psst you guys know he wont be running against Bush right? Saying you are eating a shit sandwich with pickles does not change the fact you are eating a shit sandwich. Bush was horrid on domestic policy, I will give you that.. but I don’t believe Obama is a lot better. I know when ends don’t meet at my house we cut back. Yeah it sucks but then again unlike the people we have in Washington I can ‘t print my own money.. well ok I could but I’m too pretty for prison. Also I have never gotten a job from a poor person.. so yeah lets hike the hell out of the taxes on the rich... they wont pick up and leave or find some shelter.. nope I'm sure they will give it all up.

Then you just better bow down and suck all the rich dick you can find so you can assure yourself of a job.

It just never fails to amaze me how people buy into this.

Why don't we just eliminate all taxes for the wealthiest 10% and eliminate all corporate taxes?

That should end unemployment and we'll all be living the good life.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 2:59:19 PM

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A witless post! Business is business and charity/philanthropy is charity/philanthropy. If people are broke, it is hard to be charitable. If a business is not making money, it is difficult to employ people or make charitable contributions. This is the real world.

A witless response. The welfare state crowds out charity/philanthropy and is a large part of the reason for the massive un/underemployment that has so many people broke. That is the real world, if one takes off their blue blinders. (And since your other post was pretty much right on, Im surprised you blew this one..unless the quotes are off!)

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:05:48 PM

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A witless response. The welfare state crowds out charity/philanthropy and is a large part of the reason for the massive un/underemployment that has so many people broke. That is the real world, if one takes off their blue blinders.

A terribly witless response. Where do you think the welfare state came from? It came from Lyndon Baines Johnson's War on Poverty. There was no money stay-at-home-drinking-Colt45-on the porch welfare before Johnson. Johnson, a liberal democrat, embarked on his war on poverty to do ONE thing; create a voting base. And what did Johnson say about his new welfar program???? "I'll have them n**gers voting democratic for the next 200 years!" Google it.

If we had lower taxes, we would have more manufacturing, more business. The more friendly you are to business, the more business you are going to have. It is such a simple concept but, of course, some people find it entierly elusive.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:06:34 PM

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If you don't know how to trim quotes, then please refrain from using the quote feature until you go and read thru the tutorial in test forum, and figure it out.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:09:57 PM

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If we had lower taxes, we would have more manufacturing, more business. The more friendly you are to business, the more business you are going to have. It is such a simple concept but, of course, some people find it entierly elusive.

We are saying the same thing.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:12:31 PM

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Damn...you are right. My apologies, my friend, I have clients in the office but I'm sneak peaking this as I deal with them.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:19:26 PM

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lol ok you gotta admit thats funny:)
and Im the witless one?
nah I dont think so.
Now bout those jobs???? where are they oh intelligent beings

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:20:46 PM

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Lucy, republicans do not care about the working class. History has proven this repeatedly. Since they took power in the house, they have done absolutely NOTHING to keep jobs in the US, create jobs, or even try to help people who are actively looking for jobs.

Funny thing about unemployment that republicans in congress and on this board have seemed to have forgotten. In order to qualify, you have to be ACTIVELY looking for work. This means a written record of the company, who you contacted within that company and the result.

This also means you have to accept any job offered. You have to report periodically to the unemployment office to talk to workers about what you are doing in your job search.

You are disqualified if you stop looking for employment.

But, I personally think that republicans believe that if someone was laid off because their job was outsourced, it is somehow the fault of the person laid off, not the company who did the lay offs.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:24:10 PM

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Oh...what a bunch of horse maneur! Get a clue.

I do divorces. I have a half dozen clients that are on unemployment and have been for months and will be until either the divorce is over or their unemployment runs out. Do you have any idea how easy it is to apply to a company that you KNOW will not hire you? Great...so you bring in a copy of your resume and some cover letters or the e mail responses where they turned you down for an interview and you keep collecting your check. So naive...

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:28:16 PM

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Reduce corporate income taxes to the same level as Canada. We tax our corporations 35.9% to Canada's 16%.

In theory.

GE - $10.8 billion profit: $0 U.S. tax bill

GE had plenty of earnings last year -- just not in the United States. For tax purposes, the company's U.S. operations lost $408 million, while its international businesses netted a $10.8 billion profit.

...GE is "indefinitely" deferring income tax payments on those profits, Eisele said.

It may seem like accounting magic, but it's completely legit.

GE isn't the only "Top 5" company on this year's Fortune 500 list that owed no income taxes. Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), which suffered major losses in 2009, included a tax benefit of $1.9 billion in its annual profit.

"That's one way of escaping taxes," said Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation. "Companies get to deduct their losses, so if there's no earnings, then they pay no income tax."

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:31:16 PM

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If we had lower taxes, we would have more manufacturing, more business. The more friendly you are to business, the more business you are going to have. It is such a simple concept but, of course, some people find it entierly elusive.

Unfortunately, that doesn't address the issue of how Reagan and Dubya tried that and what happened was corporate executive pay skyrocketed while the wages of the rest of the country stagnated.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:32:56 PM

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Yeah...I know. Geoffrey Imelt is no friend to this country and GE was supplying material to Iran that was allegedly used in IED's. But Imelt is a close friend of Obama's and has been or is being appointed to some government panel. How do you feel about that? GE has relocated a large percentage of its employees overseas, pays no taxes, supplies belligerents if not outright adversaries and the president sits on a government panel? What are your thoughts? At this point, I'm thinking they are one of the companies that should pay the same tariff that we should impose on the Chi-Coms.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:33:53 PM

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Well, last year just about every GOP running for office ran on creating jobs. So far all they have done is fight for tax breaks for the wealth.....and lying about the job Obama is doing.

Case in point...Obama has created more jobs in this country in his short time in office than Bush did in 8. Facts is facts....

Facts is facts? Idiocy... Some simple questions arise from your post. Why was unemployment 4.5% to 5.5% under Bush and 9% and higher under your messianic Obama? Here...read this and edify yourself on the issue of who actually created more jobs. You will be surprised and probably a bit miserable.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/oct/25/nancy-pelosi/nancy-pelosi-says-more-private-sector-jobs-created/

If you are using that to compare the difference between The Democratic Administration and The Republican Admiinistration, it isn't very flattering to the Republican Administration in total.
It actually deflates a few other posts around here.

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RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP - 5/12/2011 3:36:36 PM

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If we had lower taxes, we would have more manufacturing, more business. The more friendly you are to business, the more business you are going to have. It is such a simple concept but, of course, some people find it entierly elusive.

Unfortunately, that doesn't address the issue of how Reagan and Dubya tried that and what happened was corporate executive pay skyrocketed while the wages of the rest of the country stagnated.

It was the bedrock of the Thatcherite economic miracle over here as well, and everybody knows how well that worked out in the long term...

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