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Brain -> YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 1:49:01 AM)
Talk about desperate tactics, well, the law and rules are for everybody and they can’t ram this law through like this. This is not democratic and probably illegal. I like how the guy didn't want any cameras or the media to see what happened. YouTube - Wisconsin Passes "Voter Suppression Bill" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiYz8HL5Bww&feature=feedu

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 2:11:28 AM)
The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time.

subrob1967 -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 4:08:55 AM)
I'm liking Wisconsin more and more, they need to do something about their gun laws though... And throw the fucking Packers out too. Go Scott Go!

DarkSteven -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 5:01:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 And throw the fucking Packers out too. We'll swap them for the Broncos.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 7:48:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 And throw the fucking Packers out too. We'll swap them for the Broncos. Wisconsin couldnt support all the Dan Marino Toyota franchises.

Termyn8or -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 8:50:56 AM)
FR Doesn't matter. The people most pissed off are going to be able to vote anyway. T^T

flcouple2009 -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 8:54:58 AM)
Brain, You do understand that in many states you can be detained and/or arrested for not being able to provide id? There is no good reason to not have one.

DomKen -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 8:55:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:01:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? WTF does that have to do with anything? Proper procedures shouldnt be followed to protect against fraud in the future? Not requiring IDs is such an idiotic position that anyone who supports it shouldnt be allowed to vote themselves, ID or not.

flcouple2009 -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:04:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? Do you have any evidence of anyone breaking into your computer? Did that stop you from protecting it?

DomKen -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:07:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? WTF does that have to do with anything? Proper procedures shouldnt be followed to protect against fraud in the future? Not requiring IDs is such an idiotic position that anyone who supports it shouldnt be allowed to vote themselves, ID or not. I thought you were opposed to increased government regulation? The fact is that Wisconsin's voting procedure have worked quite well for decades. Making voting harder without good reason used to be antithetical to conservatives.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:10:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? WTF does that have to do with anything? Proper procedures shouldnt be followed to protect against fraud in the future? Not requiring IDs is such an idiotic position that anyone who supports it shouldnt be allowed to vote themselves, ID or not. I thought you were opposed to increased government regulation? The fact is that Wisconsin's voting procedure have worked quite well for decades. Making voting harder without good reason used to be antithetical to conservatives. Then you thought wrong. I have never said Im against increased government regulation. I have said I am against useless regulations and regulations that constrain the economy.

DomKen -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:13:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? WTF does that have to do with anything? Proper procedures shouldnt be followed to protect against fraud in the future? Not requiring IDs is such an idiotic position that anyone who supports it shouldnt be allowed to vote themselves, ID or not. I thought you were opposed to increased government regulation? The fact is that Wisconsin's voting procedure have worked quite well for decades. Making voting harder without good reason used to be antithetical to conservatives. Then you thought wrong. I have never said Im against increased government regulation. I have said I am against useless regulations and regulations that constrain the economy. There is no vote fraud happening in Wisconsin now. So how is this new regulation not useless?

BamaD -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:23:25 AM)
The only votes this will stop are fraudulent ones since there are no fraudulent votes in Wisconsin now it will have no effect. Thus , unless there is fraud you don't know about it will make no change in who votes. PS go Packers!

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare. If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen. If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time. Can you present any evidence of vote fraud occuring in Wisconsin? WTF does that have to do with anything? Proper procedures shouldnt be followed to protect against fraud in the future? Not requiring IDs is such an idiotic position that anyone who supports it shouldnt be allowed to vote themselves, ID or not. I thought you were opposed to increased government regulation? The fact is that Wisconsin's voting procedure have worked quite well for decades. Making voting harder without good reason used to be antithetical to conservatives. Then you thought wrong. I have never said Im against increased government regulation. I have said I am against useless regulations and regulations that constrain the economy. There is no vote fraud happening in Wisconsin now. So how is this new regulation not useless? Even ou arent this stupid. You have to be playing some devils advocate game. Hint: To play devil's advocate you actually have to have a tenable position. But in case you are this stupid, see flcouple's response. The first time we have ever agreed, afaik.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:49:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The only votes this will stop are fraudulent ones since there are no fraudulent votes in Wisconsin now it will have no effect. Thus , unless there is fraud you don't know about it will make no change in who votes. PS go Packers! Key words: Fraud you don't know about.,.... or could potentially happen. Especially now that national Unions are involved

Termyn8or -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 9:59:31 AM)
Well then why wasn't this a problem before ? All the sudden it's such a huge problem. Right now. Wisconson has been around for how long now ? All the sudden this is an emergency. Yeah right. T^T

flcouple2009 -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 10:28:21 AM)
Termy. An the that's both side of the coin. There is no good reason why anyone should not have an id so asking for one shouldn't be a hardship. But on the other hand why is this so important right now?

Termyn8or -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 12:29:57 PM)
Yeah, RIGHT NOW, IT'S AN EMERGENCY. Just like the patriot act, which happened after the fact. That's why right now. Impending doom. They want to do it before the fact. Let's hope is works as well as the rest of the shit they do. As I have stated, actions go a long way in telling of intent. Really though, most people who don't have or want a picture ID don't vote anyway. Think about a few other things here as well. They are going to exclude certain voters, and they hope those are voters who would vote for the recall. Are they right ? The guy got elected in the first place, but now people are pissed. Now what we have here a majority of repulicans in that room. Did they call for the recall and then do this ? I don't think so. So it was the voters who had previously voted for mostly republicans for governor and reps. So some minority fring element got this recall through ? Doubtful. Good for us politicians don't think as well as they steal. My money's on the recall passing anyway. T^T

DomKen -> RE: YouTube - Wisconsin Passes Voter Suppression Bill (5/20/2011 1:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Even ou arent this stupid. You have to be playing some devils advocate game. Hint: To play devil's advocate you actually have to have a tenable position. But in case you are this stupid, see flcouple's response. The first time we have ever agreed, afaik. Actually I was making you wallow in your hypocrisy. Wisconsin is in the middle of a state wide recount and still no evidence of even a little vote fraud. In reality vote fraud is very rare nation wide but GOP controlled state houses are passing all sorts of new laws restricting access to polls, Florida just greatly shortened early voting as another example, claiming that they want to prevent vote fraud. In reality they want to prevent demographics that don't vote Republican from voting at all. This is very telling evidence that the nationwide conservative movement does not value democracy as much as it values being in power, for the sake of being in power.

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