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Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 8:12:38 PM   
LoveSparkie


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Status: offline 		I love to serve, it is what makes me happy. Seeing other people smile and say "Good Job" is what makes my little heart flutter.

BUT I hate when people treat me like my mental abilities are limited. I am naturally quiet and I'm not sure if its the fact that I normally don't speak to be why certain people think all I can do is simple tasks that make other's lives easier.

I am a QUICK student. Since I was child, ANYTHING I put my mind too I could learn and do. It may sound far fetched, but it is indeed true. I LOVE to be educated, I LOVE to learn anything I possibly can and I learn fast.

I am submissive and I love serving others, but I HATE when people assume my MENTAL abilities are limited to simply serving others. I serve because I CHOOSE to serve, NOT because that's all I can do.

Does anyone else experience this? Does anyone else feel like people take advantage of the fact that you are there to help?

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 8:40:12 PM   
coookie


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Status: offline 		I have run into that attitude though mostly in online chat rooms. In real life there was only one person who treated me like that and i laughed because really what he thought didn't really matter. I am not quiet however (nor graceful nor any other lovely names that one thinks of when they think of when they think of submissive characteristics. I laugh too loudly, give my opinions too freely and trip over things too frequently (not to say that any of those qualities go hand in hand for anyone else. Many are forward and graceful .. i am just not one of those). So no they don't think i am deficient.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 8:51:00 PM   
windchymes


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Status: offline 		Well, just serve only those who respect it, leave the rest alone.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 9:16:48 PM   
HeatherMcLeather


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Status: offline 		OK, listen up LoveSparkie, you get out of my head and stop stealing my thoughts, feelings, and experiences.

You are describing ME!!!
I love learning things, its my major pass-time. I discovered the most amazing books in one of Hanners' boxes of books the other day: A biographical dictionary and an encyclopedia of world history. I put them on the desk where I do my stuff.

I know that I can find everything in those two books faster and easier online, but there is just something comforting in looking at them and touching them. It tells me "I can know what happened and who did it."

And that makes me feel powerful, I have access to knowledge, not in a mutable electronic form, but in a concrete physical form.

In person I am very quiet and contemplative, I listen far more than I speak. And just as you say, there are people who take this as some sort of  evidence of my being a little slow.

They are very wrong.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 9:44:49 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		I get this consistently in my everyday life all the time because I'm quiet and contemplative.

I've learned to use it to my advantage of not having to do certain things because they think I'm incapable..fine by me if they want to think that way. Just means I don't have to do the work and they can give it to someone else who will bitch, moan and complain about having to do it lol.



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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 9:46:24 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		When I first started exploring my submissiveness I had men treat me this way. I joined a few online groups that were maledom/femsub that were designed around the man being the intellect, and the female serving them. I was like a fly on the wall learning a new strange sort of tribe... the anthropologist in me dug it... but then I went native and became part of that tribe, and that wasn't the way I wanted to be treated.

My intellect should be a resource for my dominant. If he cannot see it as such, he shouldn't be with me. I am not changing who I intrinsically am for anyone.

I think it is being true to yourself first in all things that is important.. how can you be true to anyone else if you aren't?

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 9:48:28 PM   
MstrPBK


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Status: offline 		Based on the OP's question: I would say no. But I would also have to say that I am not your average Master either in that I am seeking slaves for bedroom, residence and workplace.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/8/2011 9:59:04 PM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		Nope, never experienced that perception.

If anything, I get complaints that I am too smart.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 3:59:32 AM   
DesFIP


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From: Apple County NY
Status: offline 		I've known men who didn't like the fact that I'm this smart, who felt it meant I was in competition with them. This relationship I'm with someone who is proud of how smart I am, who takes it as a compliment that someone with my brains still wants to be with him, still trusts him to be in charge.

But I  would suggest, OP, that you stop serving random people and reserve it for those who earn it. And include in your criteria for those who do deserve it, the fact that they recognize your intelligence. I think what you're coming up against is the lone wolf syndrome, gunfighter rides into town, cleans it up and rides out again and helps no one. Service isn't usually thought of in a positive light. So by serving randomly, you will be disrespected by all those who buy into that stereotype.


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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 4:06:01 AM   
LaTigresse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoveSparkie

I love to serve, it is what makes me happy. Seeing other people smile and say "Good Job" is what makes my little heart flutter.

BUT I hate when people treat me like my mental abilities are limited. I am naturally quiet and I'm not sure if its the fact that I normally don't speak to be why certain people think all I can do is simple tasks that make other's lives easier.

I am a QUICK student. Since I was child, ANYTHING I put my mind too I could learn and do. It may sound far fetched, but it is indeed true. I LOVE to be educated, I LOVE to learn anything I possibly can and I learn fast.

I am submissive and I love serving others, but I HATE when people assume my MENTAL abilities are limited to simply serving others. I serve because I CHOOSE to serve, NOT because that's all I can do.

Does anyone else experience this? Does anyone else feel like people take advantage of the fact that you are there to help?



Start choosing a better sort of person to spend time with. Start choosing better men to serve. Stop allowing others to take advantage of you.

In this.......you are going to 'get' what you 'ask for'. Start a asking for what you want. Take responsibility.

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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 5:14:12 AM   
sunshinemiss


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Status: offline 		It happens.  People assume a lot of things about people. 

I have found that when I am kind and loving, people think I'm weak.  I'm anything but.  However, if it is what makes their minds comforted, that's none of my concern.  As LaT so correctly pointed out, take responsibility for what you will and will not accept. 

I would remind you of something I learned in Sunday school as a child - don't throw your pearls before swine.  (And there are a lot of swine out there)
best,
sunshine


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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 5:24:03 AM   
Whiplashsmile4


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Status: offline 		ALL I have to say, is that I enjoy intelligent submissives/slaves. You'll have to excuse me, by the fact I'm a little frustrated over so many thinking that serving is all about BDSM activities and such. Seriously, in my book somebody intelligent that is serving me.. Priceless. I'm also into making the investment in books and even courses and otherwise traditional training/instruction for somebody to learn more. I'm even into artistic Muse types as well. So yeah, this is me and I know not everybody out there wants to have an intelligent wonderful sub/slave. The whole Bimbofication business I find personally as as annoyance for my own tastes. Then again, this is what I'm into and not.



< Message edited by Whiplashsmile4 -- 6/9/2011 5:26:23 AM >

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 6:20:45 AM   
ranja


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Status: offline 		i speak English with an accent... some people are a bit shocked at this (they might have lived a very sheltered life?) and start talking back really slow and loud at me... it is a totally weird experience

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 6:38:28 AM   
LaTigresse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

It happens.  People assume a lot of things about people. 

I have found that when I am kind and loving, people think I'm weak.  I'm anything but.  However, if it is what makes their minds comforted, that's none of my concern.  As LaT so correctly pointed out, take responsibility for what you will and will not accept. 

I would remind you of something I learned in Sunday school as a child - don't throw your pearls before swine.  (And there are a lot of swine out there)
best,
sunshine



The part I've bolded, I believe many of us have experienced. If someone wishes to assume I am weak I do not mind at all. It gives me an immediate advantage. It's like a freebie.

And yes, as Sunny said, there are lots of swine. They are their own problem and what they think, does not matter at all.


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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 7:24:38 AM   
GreedyTop


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From: Savannah, GA
Status: offline 		*snort*  I work in customer service, need I say more?


Seriously, though...

I have met people that think my laughing, giggling self is all there is to me.  I have met folks that see the pretty damned smart part of me.  There are yet others who have seen, and enjoy both sides of me

There are times and places for each of those categories.  Guess which I choose to spend the most time with?

Hold out for what makes you happy.  If, in the meantime, others fill a gap, go for it (but be honest that it IS filling a gap).

YMMV.

*edited for a dropped word:  ok, I'm pretty damned smart, but I cant type worth a damn!!*

< Message edited by GreedyTop -- 6/9/2011 7:26:19 AM >

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 7:32:33 AM   
NuevaVida


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Status: offline 		I don't think being quiet and contemplative is the reason - I am generally NOT quiet and I still get it sometimes. I think it's something many domly-types like to think, and the only thing that feeds that position is the matter between their ears.  They want to be stronger, smarter, etc., as part of their authoritarian position.

Some of them understand the fallacy in that thinking.  Those who don't, might treat submissives as "less smart" because it's what they want to believe.


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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 7:46:23 AM   
LanceHughes


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Status: offline 		I'm looking for a [male] slave to be my right-hand man.

Think over-seer of the American South plantation.  Lots of them WERE smarter than the Massa' what went to parties and long visits leaving the homestead in the hands of the over-seer because they knew they could.  In my instance I WANT a smart one.  Some of my boys - I'm moving toward slaves - have been smarter than myself.  I've always said "I need a smart one."

Since a slave is my property, I want him trained so that when he "does" something, it is as if I had done it myself.  Short version: I want him to act in my name.  What he produces is also mine...... I'm thinking specifically of writing.  Maybe some speaking to audiences - as in BDSM lectures.

Thus, since I am smart and he is to produce "in my name," he must be samrt. [Oh, yeah. and know how to type and spell.]

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 7:55:01 AM   
GreedyTop


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Status: offline 		*giggles*

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 7:56:52 AM   
strangedesire


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Status: offline 		The girlfriend gets this often, because she's young and pretty and female. It makes me want to stab people.

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RE: Slave/Submissive: - Your MENTAL abilities are limited? - 6/9/2011 8:24:33 AM   
Kana


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