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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 12:25:06 PM   
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That pic hurts just looking at it. 



That's a lot more harmless than how the belly of my boy looks, I only have a bite and a few stitches (cleaned up it doesn't even look that bad), he got a piece ripped out and needs surgery (I guess another few hundred) - considering my vet bills, I think I'm in the wrong biz...

Now would you pick up the animal who did it and examine the dog tag to file a proper report? For some odd reason I figured I like having all my fingers and both hands.

Oh and one of the cops told me that my handbag attack is very unlikely to have any consequences even if he was to push the matter (which I don't think he will, given the track record of his dog biting other dogs), it will be his word against mine that I defended myself, and if I was possibly in a state of shock after the attack so that I wasn't responsible for my actions....

Given then fact that I reported him TWICE and the dogs and I are the ones with injuries, I don't think he would have a leg to stand on, but he'd be a complete idiot if he'd come forward to try and drag me to court, I wish, because then I would press charges.


To answer your question.  No.  I would not pick the dog up. 

The pic of your leg -  would mute any hand bag bop charges.   Your limb was threatened. 


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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 12:48:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		A friend said I made them soft and that's why they get attacked, he might have a point, I discouraged all sorts of aggression towards other dogs and humans (wasn't too difficult anyway as both are babies), so they might not have their natural defense reflexes. But it's a tight balance, if anything happens, it will be the big dog who's guilty, as we have heard, small dogs can't do any damage or be a danger...

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 12:51:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a German Sheppard who bit the mail mans mail bag in a moving car.    I then got a visit from the police.  The chain had broke.   I showed him the broken chain.  Even still it was on me.   It never happened again.   

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:00:21 PM   
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The pic of your leg -  would mute any hand bag bop charges.   Your limb was threatened. 



I think it takes a bit more than a few slashes to sever a limb, and to be honest I didn't really feel it at the time, adrenaline rush and all, just after being back from the vet and sitting down, removing the torn jeans, I figured I better take a picture since asshat said he'd report me for decking him with my handbag, should have put bricks in...


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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:04:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes PA, even if your (figuratively speaking) dog escapes from your confinement, if it causes damage, it is your responsibility.  Which is why I have spent nearly $ 1,000.00 this last year, to keep one, very large and inventive, German Shepherd, contained.

With us, she is a sweetheart. But she has a very strong alpha personality and is becoming more and more territorial. I also have neighbours that have goats, sheep, cattle, dogs, chickens.....etc. I have no idea if she would kill any of them, given the opportunity. I have no idea how she would behave if she where to be loose when the UPS or FedEx people show up.

It is MY responsibility to contain her, and my other dogs. Just as it is the owner of the psychotic terrier that LadyC and her puppies had a run in with.

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:07:59 PM   
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The pic of your leg -  would mute any hand bag bop charges.   Your limb was threatened. 



I think it takes a bit more than a few slashes to sever a limb, and to be honest I didn't really feel it at the time, adrenaline rush and all, just after being back from the vet and sitting down, removing the torn jeans, I figured I better take a picture since asshat said he'd report me for decking him with my handbag, should have put bricks in...


I'm afraid I wouldn't have been that nice to him LadyC. I'd have gone Medieval on him and his ratty assed dog.

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:14:08 PM   
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I'm afraid I wouldn't have been that nice to him LadyC. I'd have gone Medieval on him and his ratty assed dog.


I wasn't "nice" - my first priority was getting the dogs out of harms way, otherwise I might have knocked his few remaining teeth down his throat, trust me the handbag swings weren't dainty handbag swings but "Deck the fucker".

Dunno if the pic uploaded but that's the boy's belly wound... Seriously not pretty but hopefully tomorrow they will sort him with a bit of surgery.


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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:15:45 PM   
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Yes PA, even if your (figuratively speaking) dog escapes from your confinement, if it causes damage, it is your responsibility.  Which is why I have spent nearly $ 1,000.00 this last year, to keep one, very large and inventive, German Shepherd, contained.

With us, she is a sweetheart. But she has a very strong alpha personality and is becoming more and more territorial. I also have neighbours that have goats, sheep, cattle, dogs, chickens.....etc. I have no idea if she would kill any of them, given the opportunity. I have no idea how she would behave if she where to be loose when the UPS or FedEx people show up.

It is MY responsibility to contain her, and my other dogs. Just as it is the owner of the psychotic terrier that LadyC and her puppies had a run in with.


There is probably 1000 ways for a chain to break too.

Some day I would get another dog.  Not for a while tho...no hurry.   I am happy with the one cat.  One pet is enough for me.   ...the cat will also be easier if I want to go away.  It was always hard to arrange a dog sitter in the past.

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:17:12 PM   
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I'm afraid I wouldn't have been that nice to him LadyC. I'd have gone Medieval on him and his ratty assed dog.


I wasn't "nice" - my first priority was getting the dogs out of harms way, otherwise I might have knocked his few remaining teeth down his throat, trust me the handbag swings weren't dainty handbag swings but "Deck the fucker".

Dunno if the pic uploaded but that's the boy's belly wound... Seriously not pretty but hopefully tomorrow they will sort him with a bit of surgery.



Wow.  That gash is brutal. 

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:18:14 PM   
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With us, she is a sweetheart. But she has a very strong alpha personality and is becoming more and more territorial. I also have neighbours that have goats, sheep, cattle, dogs, chickens.....etc. I have no idea if she would kill any of them, given the opportunity. I have no idea how she would behave if she where to be loose when the UPS or FedEx people show up.

It is MY responsibility to contain her, and my other dogs. Just as it is the owner of the psychotic terrier that LadyC and her puppies had a run in with.


Actually I introduced mine to the cats around here, they adore the post man, they will tell me when strangers come in but I got the territorial stuff out of them by telling them off, though the girl is slightly a bit more territorial than the boy, he was gorgeous, approached every stranger with "Hello, you must be a friend and just want to cuddle me or play with me..."

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:24:33 PM   
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I had a German Sheppard who bit the mail mans mail bag in a moving car.    I then got a visit from the police.  The chain had broke.   I showed him the broken chain.  Even still it was on me.   It never happened again.   


Better idea to actually raise him so he won't do it... Dogs will take their clues from you if you are their pack leader, you need to be fairly consistent and understand their body language, never panic and always appear in control, they really react on that.

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:34:41 PM   
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I had a German Sheppard who bit the mail mans mail bag in a moving car.    I then got a visit from the police.  The chain had broke.   I showed him the broken chain.  Even still it was on me.   It never happened again.   


Better idea to actually raise him so he won't do it... Dogs will take their clues from you if you are their pack leader, you need to be fairly consistent and understand their body language, never panic and always appear in control, they really react on that.


She was a good dog tho.   I took her to Chicago a few times- and she loved saying hi to the tourists. 

After the near bite of a person tho- I never let her in the yard unattended.   Luckily I did not get a fine over it...but I could have. 

After I moved here- I eventually gave her to my neighbor-  Sheba passed away about a year ago.  Everyone loved her. 

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:35:07 PM   
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With us, she is a sweetheart. But she has a very strong alpha personality and is becoming more and more territorial. I also have neighbours that have goats, sheep, cattle, dogs, chickens.....etc. I have no idea if she would kill any of them, given the opportunity. I have no idea how she would behave if she where to be loose when the UPS or FedEx people show up.

It is MY responsibility to contain her, and my other dogs. Just as it is the owner of the psychotic terrier that LadyC and her puppies had a run in with.


Actually I introduced mine to the cats around here, they adore the post man, they will tell me when strangers come in but I got the territorial stuff out of them by telling them off, though the girl is slightly a bit more territorial than the boy, he was gorgeous, approached every stranger with "Hello, you must be a friend and just want to cuddle me or play with me..."


I agree with you and Nala has been fine, as far as I've seen. My reality is that I am away from home a large part of the day, at least 5 days a week. Usually from 7am to 6-7pm. I cannot keep her in the house for that length of time. So she must be outdoors. I want to be as certain as possible that she is not running off, or causing trouble. And the reality is, there are farmers that will shoot dogs they don't know, that comes onto their property. Especially if those dogs are chasing their livestock. I don't want it to be Nala.


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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:38:39 PM   
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With us, she is a sweetheart. But she has a very strong alpha personality and is becoming more and more territorial. I also have neighbours that have goats, sheep, cattle, dogs, chickens.....etc. I have no idea if she would kill any of them, given the opportunity. I have no idea how she would behave if she where to be loose when the UPS or FedEx people show up.

It is MY responsibility to contain her, and my other dogs. Just as it is the owner of the psychotic terrier that LadyC and her puppies had a run in with.


Actually I introduced mine to the cats around here, they adore the post man, they will tell me when strangers come in but I got the territorial stuff out of them by telling them off, though the girl is slightly a bit more territorial than the boy, he was gorgeous, approached every stranger with "Hello, you must be a friend and just want to cuddle me or play with me..."


LOL, my dog's mother, a Pomeranian, is like that, loves everybody. At the dog park, she trots up to everyone and immediately flops over onto her back, legs sprawled, for a bellyrub. "Hi! Rub my belly!" "Hi! Rub my belly!"

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nala tends to be the same when she is out and about with me. Especially with kids.

And LadyC, I just saw the photo of your leg........damn. I am so sorry you and your furry babies have to go through this.


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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:46:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh that's a different situation, mine are basically glued to me, I guess I have 2 shadows for the rest of their lives so when they go out they usually just do that to have a look but then come up and cuddle, the girlie used to open the door of the gate and march to the office across the road and beg for biscuits (which of course gave her horrible wind), the farmer where I board the sheep (bought my first sheep friend to avoid her being turned into dog food and then all her lambs since she made me godmother by lambing in front of me and introducing the lambs) knows the dogs and knows they don't chase the sheep, they happily mingle with the sheep and even have their faves, it's quite comical, they see the sheep as part of their pack and if 2 sheep have a bit of a problem and headbutt each other, they get agitated and tell them off (just like if the cats fight) as they do like order in their pack. I can't even argue with my other half since it upsets them, Dobes are just super sensitive and need harmony. To have an argument we need to go away and by that time tempers have cooled down a lot...

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:50:44 PM   
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The littlest dog will either crawl between or try to nip at whomever she feels is behaving most aggressively. The middle sized dog will run and hide. The biggest will get between and whine/growl.  

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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 1:52:54 PM   
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Nala tends to be the same when she is out and about with me. Especially with kids.

And LadyC, I just saw the photo of your leg........damn. I am so sorry you and your furry babies have to go through this.



My leg is fine, seriously, when cleaned up and stitched it's a few bruises and a few stitches, not quite as dramatic as it looks with the dried blood. Alfie is much worse, but as our (absolutely brilliant) vet said, he will be a bit groggy from the anesthetic but then it will heal fine, it's a huge gaping wound with a nasty infection and the sooner they take care of it the better. I still want to throttle the owner though...



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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 8:52:41 PM   
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Doesn't your local police have an artist who could do a sketch from your description and that of the other victims? If you folks could get a police sketch made, and post it around, I bet someone could identify him. Especially if a small reward was offered for information leading to the identification of the dog owner.




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RE: How to treat a dog who's got a bite? - 6/23/2011 9:42:14 PM   
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This is so terrible, it's beyond words.




I completely agree, and I'm sorry I didn't see this thread earlier.

What a horrible situation.  And seriously that Jack Russel has to have been terribly mistreated to behave that way. 

I hope the surgery goes well.  I've only been bitten on the hand (by a Rottie) and while it broke the skin, it was mild.  But sweet jesus that thing hurt badly.  I can't even imagine how your leg and your poor pooches feel. 

Viktor and I will say a prayer for your doggies tonight.  We go to bed every night saying prayers for all the animals out there that need them.  I'm really sorry this has happened.


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