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lockedaway -> RE: Why do Republicans hate America? (7/9/2011 10:45:23 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Louve00
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ORIGINAL: lockedaway
How have Republicans killed the middle class? When O'scumbag wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire there was going to be a corresponding increase in all brackets. The Republicans SAVED you money. Unless you are in the 47% that pays no federal income tax. O'scumbag wants to end the mortgage interest deduction for homeowners. I guess you don't have a home or you would have known that. If you do have a home, look at your mortgage payment and look what the interest is. Then multiply that figure times 12 and imagine losing that deduction. It "may" cause you to lose your home. Democrats want an estate tax that kicks in at $200,000.00. I guess you don't have parents they don't have any money or real property to bequeath to you. If they left you a home valued at $400,000.00, you would have to SELL that home just to pay the taxes. What about the Republicans?????????????????? Where do they want to keep the estate tax? At two million. That's right...2 million dollars of an estate would be tax exempt.
I don't know WHAT you are talking about. The party that is castrating the middle class is the democratic party, also known as the American Socialist Party.
As far as Republicans being in office after Carter? Sure...there were. And Fannie Mae's percentage of backed paper that was shit was 33% give or take through Reagan and H.W. Bush. Clinton put it on the fast track and it broke the bank. Google "number of times Bush warned of banking crisis" and see what you get.
Oh...and here is a postscript for you. O'scumbag wants to increase payroll taxes from 8% to 13%. How is that going to help the small businessman of the middle class? How is that going to help the people that he fires so he can save some money? I would like answers to those questions if you are willing.
Republicans haven't squashed the middle class yet. But by republicans putting out pieces saying the hard workers of America have to shoulder more of this burden, while they fight for the rich keeping their tax breaks just boggles my mind. Republicans like to cry "taking from the rich to give to the poor", but think not a whole lot of "taking from the poor to give to the rich".
As far as raising taxes on the rich, the way I look at it is, that's a myth. The rich aren't being taxed more. Not at all. The tax breaks they were given are expiring. There's a difference between taxing and letting the break they gave them end. Especially when our country could use the money. If it meant me having to pay a bit more on my taxes, so be it. I have a sneaking suspicion it wouldn't have affected my bank account as much as it would have the rich. To throw it back and say democrats are doing it, just because they want to spread it all out a bit more fairly. I can handle my share of fair. Most can. Those that can't...well, they're poor. Therefore, subhuman and who could care less about that, right? (in other words fuck humanity and mankind, but thats only my opinions and I am not trying to put words in your mouth, if you happen to think its not really a bad thing to help a person down on their luck, then kudos to you! If you don't think its right to cut some slack to people who need the slack, then why are we giving so much slack to people who don't need it?)
So Carter succeeded in his agenda, Clinton did too. And now, so is Obama. But Reagan, and the both Bushes were unable to "right the wrong" eh? (Bush can warn all he wants, but what did he do about it? Obama warned this mess we're in now would not take a year, a term or 2 terms to fix, but some seem to like to twist and turn that around to "he promised to fix this mess and create jobs, so halfway into his first term, and I've actually heard it as early as 6 months into his term, they wonder why it's not fixed yet) [8|]
And an increase from 8-13%. Well ya know, when I was in sales and working for myself, I had to pay a self employment tax. There were some years, albeit bad years, that that tax was much, much higher than the 8-13% you're talking about. I survived. My feelings on that is, if you can't afford to run a business responsibly, if keeping you afloat is the nations responsibility, whether they do business with you or not) then close your business and become an employer. I'll find my own job, or start my own business...and will survive without weeping it's someone else's fault.
I have gone thru your response, sentence by sentence. If I've left anything out, it was not my intention to not answer you.
And here is my response:
1. When Reagan re-did the tax code, the top bracket was 28%. OK? H.W. took it up to 35% and Clinton up to 39.5%. Please don't tell me how great a president Clinton was, he gutted the military, he had the benefit of a dot com BOOM and it burst and his presidency ended in recession. Let me ask you this and I really would like an answer. Do you think it is fair for the federal government to take 39.5% of your income and allow a state like New Jersey to take another 9% all the while as you are paying .52 cents per gallon of gasoline in taxes? Property taxes? FCC line charges? Taxes on your cable? Tolls on your road? Do you "really" think is is fair for people to lose 55% of their income and some people even more? Doesn't that render this government a tyranny? What happened your right to pursue happiness? You are a slave!!!!!!!
2. What burden are Republicans putting the working man? Oh...do you mean a responsibility to pay 3% towards their health care? Really??? I pay 100% of my health care. I pay 100% of my retirement. I work as hard, if not harder, than anyone. I carry my own freight and I cost YOU nothing. Isn't it about time that everyone pay more to support themselves?
3. You want to pay more in your taxes? Go ahead. It is voluntary. Pay all you like.
4. What could Bush do to stop the mortgage meltdown. He came out and said that the repeal of Glass Steagall was a mistake and those protections had to be re-instituted. They were not (that would have required a bill) and they have not been under O'scumbag.
5. Two terms to fix? The fix is easy....a corporate flat tax, massive government lay offs, a flat income tax and a one year suspension of the capital gains tax. If those things were done, this country would explode in financial activity. The Dow would shoot up over 15,000. His first term has been an abject failure.
6. Your last paragraph does not make sense. Please re-read it. You still have to pay a self employment tax and the payroll tax if you hire someone. You also have to pay mandatory worker's compensation insurance. You ask whether it is the nation's obligation for small business to succeed. The answer is yes. By not taxing small businesses to death many would have a much greater chance at success.
7. You did not give me your thoughts on the estate tax. Do you support democrats confiscating private property with a estate tax at $200,000.?
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