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I have to agree, Hell Reagan was more liberal the Obama. 

The problem is the right has gone so extreme to the right that even a moderate conservative is considered a "liberal"

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The problem is the right has gone so extreme to the right that even a moderate conservative is considered a "liberal"

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Seriously? Rants aren't the style of conservatives? Have you read lockedaway's posts? Like the one where I was talking about a working parent trying to support a kid on a low salary and his direct response to me was a few paragraphs ranting about welfare? Or the one where slavemike said he was on disability and his response was to tell him how much he hates him and he's a piece of shit liberal who doesn't deserve disability?

You're actually going to try to say that?

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Yes. There is a huge difference between a "rant" and detailed rebuttal of specious posts.

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Jeez  raising taxes on the wealthy for one, 

But hell at least you keep an open mind  One can tell by your cheap degrading remarks

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Yes. There is a huge difference between a "rant" and detailed rebuttal of specious posts.

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Bitch, I don't even live in the US anymore.

I can say 100% that the social justice I advocate for the US will in absolutely no fucking way benefit me financially.

Unlike some people, who can say in one post that they want to stop illegal immigration and say in the next that they really don't give a fuck that they're one of the people encouraging illegal immigration by hiring them, I'm actually trying to have some principles here, rather than pick and choose when to suck a country dry based on how it affects my bottom line.

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HAHAHAHAHAAH...that was too funny.  "Biiitch!"  Straighten your wrist when you call me that, boy!

If it is all of no benefit to you, why the fuck to you endlessly post about it and support O'fuckface?  Go live in your bastion of liberalism and enjoy it.  If you don't have a dog in the fight, why waste the time of those that do????

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If you can't understand why someone would support social justice that doesn't benefit them personally, I can't explain it to you. Maybe you'd tell some of the people who went down to march in Mississippi fuck off, what are you white people doing here, don't you know it's not your problem?

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HAHAHAHAHAAH...that was too funny.  "Biiitch!"  Straighten your wrist when you call me that, boy!

If it is all of no benefit to you, why the fuck to you endlessly post about it and support O'fuckface?  Go live in your bastion of liberalism and enjoy it.  If you don't have a dog in the fight, why waste the time of those that do????

Hookah please.

lol.

If you can't understand why someone would support social justice that doesn't benefit them personally, I can't explain it to you. Maybe you'd tell some of the people who went down to march in Mississippi fuck off, what are you white people doing here, don't you know it's not your problem?

I do have a dog in this fight. That dog is not Obama. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

I know it's shocking to see someone's asking "is this right?" rather than "what's in it for me?" and it might warp your entire worldview that liberals are just greedy bastards trying to get you to pay for them, but that's just how it is sometimes.

I will say I'm fucking grateful to live in my bastion of liberalism. I do have issues with the country I'm living in now, it's by no stretch of the imagination perfect, and some things, like freedom of speech, I cede to the US as being superior. But my bastion of liberalism has national health care, a minimum wage twice the one in the US, government mandated paid leave for employees, and yet somehow it's not teetering on the edge of default to China.

How dare I want the same for the country that will always be "home" in my heart, right?

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You know what social justice is NOT?  Social Justice is not burdening a class of people with the support of a mentally and physically healthy underclass.  Got it?

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You know what social justice is NOT?  Social Justice is not burdening a class of people with the support of a mentally and physically healthy underclass.  Got it?

Get some proper schools for the poor and universal healthcare for everyone and then you can call your underclass mentally and physically healthy bro.

Yeah everyone has the same opportunities in that level playing field.

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I just want the basis for discussion as all should be...well defined. People are entitled to what they pay into...the rest are not. With millionaires politicians receiving their money back through soc. sec are entitled but because it is a small fraction of their income find it far, far too easy to cut it even though it is almost all of someone else's income. That's demagoguery... pure and simple.

LOLOLOLOLOL Thank YOU!!!  Yes!!!  My point EXACTLY.  Been saying that for years.  (Bells ring, angels sing, trumpets blow, sunlight breaks through the clouds)  Welcome to conservatism, Mr. Rodgers.  Just remember...what you have said applies to all people on the socio-economic spectrum.

So where is the rant over corporate welfare, corporate 'entitlements' farm entitlements, ethanol entitlements and a whole array of business subsidies, tax escapism that favor only the investor ? These are investor class 'entitlements' and are costing society a whole lot more and benefiting that same society a whole lot less than all other so-called 'entitlements' combined...most of which amazingly are less of any so-called entitlement, why ?

Because they are fucking paid for not bought through our congressional whores.

Jesus Christ, Mr.R, it is SO tiresome having to repeat myself.  Part of being a regular on any board is eventually knowing what the other guy's view point are so you don't have to keep going back to square one.

What the fuck have I been saying about having a business climate that is favorable to business?  What i proposed was a flat, corporate tax.  I also said lobbying should end and that corporations should not be able to contribute to campaigns.  How many times to I have to say it and re-say it?

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There are people that oppose this man VISCERALLY!!!  But then LOVE Alan West.  How do you account for that?

Anyone who loves a man who disgraced the uniform of the US Army is a pathetic excuse for an American.

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Gee I don't know BRAH maybe if all your schools were proper you wouldn't have some No Child Left Behind act specifically telling your schools not to suck.

Ahhh...so that is your response to being asked for a list of substandard schools, you fucking nit wit????  Nice response.  Do you think that the failure of some kids in our school system is bad parenting BRAH????  How the fuck do you legislate that away....BRAH????  Tell me BRAH, does a 3rd Edition U.S. History book published by Doyle Publishing read DIFFERENT in Philadelphia than it does in Austin, BRAH???

And people who put off getting preventative medical treatment until they absolutely need emergency treatment probably arent healthy brah, and if you'll give charity care to the destitute then surely you can see the value of having access to medical care even if you're not fucking dying, brosef.

More fucking stupidity from YOU, Brah!  The emergency rooms are FULL of people that do not need emergency care.  If emergency rooms only saw the profusely bleeding or the apparent heat attack patient or stroke victim, you might have a point.  People come in with the nondescript headache or the stomach ache and thousands of dollars later in testing, they leave with Tylenol.....BRAH. 

I HAVE AIDS BRAH

FUCK OFF YOU CANT GO TO THE ER TIL YOU GET PNEUMONIA BRO YOU ARE CLEARLY HEALTHY TIL YOU START THE COUGH COUGH COUGH.

BUT I WANT PILLS BRAH

HAHAHAHAHHA THATS FUNNY PILLS FOR SICK PEOPLE WHAT WILL THOSE COMMIES THINK OF NEXT

ahhhhhhhhhhhh....once again we have discovered another liberal arguing for higher taxation because it benefits his own self interest.  Oh sure...he argued that the top 50% paying for the bottom 50% was noble...social justice, good karma, etc.  But the TRUTH is that he benefits directly from one group having to support another group.  Your bias has been revealed and you have rendered yourself null and void.

P.S.  Sorry you have AIDS...that sucks.

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Ahhh...so that is your response to being asked for a list of substandard schools, you fucking nit wit????  Nice response.  Do you think that the failure of some kids in our school system is bad parenting BRAH????  How the fuck do you legislate that away....BRAH????  Tell me BRAH, does a 3rd Edition U.S. History book published by Doyle Publishing read DIFFERENT in Philadelphia than it does in Austin, BRAH???

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More fucking stupidity from YOU, Brah!  The emergency rooms are FULL of people that do not need emergency care.  If emergency rooms only saw the profusely bleeding or the apparent heat attack patient or stroke victim, you might have a point.  People come in with the nondescript headache or the stomach ache and thousands of dollars later in testing, they leave with Tylenol.....BRAH. 

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ahhhhhhhhhhhh....once again we have discovered another liberal arguing for higher taxation because it benefits his own self interest.  Oh sure...he argued that the top 50% paying for the bottom 50% was noble...social justice, good karma, etc.  But the TRUTH is that he benefits directly from one group having to support another group.  Your bias has been revealed and you have rendered yourself null and void.

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I also think that if the government were to provide more across the board benefits (national healthcare, for example) then everyone should be paying income taxes.

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P.S.  Sorry you have AIDS...that sucks.