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I did not play a card.

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Nor am I racist

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

...no race card was played by me.

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...for some it has everything to do with race.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse
...Not liking Obama has nothing to do with race.

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But STILL, you just HAD to interject more RACE garbage into the discussion. You "played the race card". Pathetic as usual, and as big a massive FAILURE as the ass-hat in the Oval Office. But please, do keep trying to lie your way out of it, as it further demonstrates your dishonesty and cowardice.

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...no race card was played by me.

Liar...

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
...for some it has everything to do with race.

Wrong... neither the Debt or Gov. Spending (which was the topic of the OP) has ANYTHING to do with "race".  This was made clear to you here... the post you responded to...

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse
...Not liking Obama has nothing to do with race.

But STILL, you just HAD to interject more RACE garbage into the discussion.  You "played the race card".  Pathetic as usual, and as big a massive FAILURE as the ass-hat in the Oval Office.  But please, do keep trying to lie your way out of it, as it further demonstrates your dishonesty and cowardice.

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...Not liking Obama has nothing to do with race.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Are you still here fighting this stupid fight?

Anyone with a brain and even limited reading ability can pore through this thread and see who and where race was interjected. Many could find offense in the way it was interjected. I suppose it's ok to lampoon race based upon political views, and as long as you're on the left side of the aisle, but that's beside the point.

From the initial deflection to the flapping in the wind, the base of the argument stemmed over two phrases. For some it has everything to with race, and sometimes it's always about race. Where you stand is that the second was a twisting of your words. Granted. What it was not, was an intentional twisting of your words. Assuming the first to be true, the stance that the second is mutually exclusive of the first is incorrect, as for those where it has everything to do with race, it will sometimes always be about race. You can say it ain't so all day, but that statement is true. The "It" in this case overshadows simply a presidency. If your mind works that way, it will color many decisions you make in life, not just whether or not you like a president.

It is not what I meant when I wrote though, so I won't wander off into semantics that can be argued again, all day. What I meant when I wrote it is what I said repeatedly afterwards. It is virtually impossible to have a discussion on this administration without someone from the left turning it into racism. Someone does not specifically point a finger at you. You however, are included in that group in this instance. Owner took the blatant route. You took the subtle route. Your route had merit. It was however, off topic, and deflected the commentary from the administration to a specific incident around which you rallied the flag and did something I did not do, which was purposely twist meanings to suit your purpose.

This thread is concrete in demonstrating why a rational discussion with some leftists is virtually impossible. I went back through it last night looking for the places where I did what you accused me of. What I end up with is moon face wanting me to go hunt monkey pictures of Obama when the posting of them in newspapers at least generated a lot of words and anger when it was done. The fact that he can't remember, is I think, a case of selective amnesia. Maybe not, maybe all he remembers is tying another president to simian heritage. Even when I despised Bush, I didn't think it funny or cool. When the post or times ran their cartoon on Obama, it went past not being funny or cool.

I also ended up with you determined to paint me into a corner indicating I was reluctant to agree with you on items that were specifically racist. This is not true. I agreed with you early on. What I didn't do was kneel before you and specifically address your desired point and say I agree. I said it in general terms and in places that was not way down the road in terms of the conversation. There was no reluctance. What there was, was trying to keep some semblance of the conversation pointed to generalities rather than specifics. Somewhere in there you began telling me to join adult conversations, don a bib, a few other tidbits then accused me of attacking people when I couldn't discuss the topic.

So what I will say to you taz is, you're wrong. Call it intellectual dishonesty. Call it deflection. Call it anything you want, but when it comes to admissions, you refuse to admit who dragged race into this debate, who usually drags race into any debate on this administration, and as this thread patently demonstrates, the fact that you often derail topics with, not straw men, but fields of straw.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. I was obviously wrong in not going back, and highlighting your exact words when I used them. When it comes to discussions with you, I will certainly not make that mistake again. What I said was true though. It wasn't until I came back to Owner's words, and yours that I saw differences rather than similarities when I was standing in the Post Office. You can twist what I say into anything you want, but that point highlights what I've been saying all along. It wasn't the topic, nor the video, nor the responses that singled out those differences until my mind wandered to the two people who inserted it in the first place.

As far as arguing over it any more, I'll leave you to do that with the others because I think what we've both come away with is you insistent upon the idea that I intentionally twisted your words in an attempt to paint you as something you're not, and me with the idea that I didn't have to. You did it quite well yourself.

Enjoy.

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Keep weaseling and lying... it fits your MO.  You played-the-race-card by interjecting race (i) in a topic having zero to do with race, and (ii) in response to a post specifically stating the topic of the Debt and Spending has zero to do with race.  As usual, the failure is yours.