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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 7:35:24 AM   
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FLASH: President to lay out jobs plan -- after vacation...

(And after three years as president... finally a jobs plan)



So where is the plan from those teabaggers that have taken over the House?

Are they not the government?

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 7:35:37 AM   
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But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill. 

Of course even the GOP savior Perry is not honest about the jobs he claimed to create...

http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/13/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-jobs-problem-part-ii/

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 7:37:41 AM   
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Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem?

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


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8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets


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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 7:39:48 AM   
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A communist takeover might let government put people to work

Otherwise in a Democratic system its the free market that employs people

The Soviets tried your method and it failed miserably

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But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill. 

Of course even the GOP savior Perry is not honest about the jobs he claimed to create...

http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/13/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-jobs-problem-part-ii/



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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 8:07:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


A communist takeover might let government put people to work

Otherwise in a Democratic system its the free market that employs people

The Soviets tried your method and it failed miserably

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But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill. 

Of course even the GOP savior Perry is not honest about the jobs he claimed to create...

http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/13/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-jobs-problem-part-ii/





Well, welcome then to a communist system, Comrade. We have no free markets here.

Nostrovia!



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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 9:27:45 AM   
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Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?




Is the truth a TOS violation?

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 10:55:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


A communist takeover might let government put people to work

Otherwise in a Democratic system its the free market that employs people

The Soviets tried your method and it failed miserably

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill. 

Of course even the GOP savior Perry is not honest about the jobs he claimed to create...

http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/13/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-jobs-problem-part-ii/




There IS NO "FREE MARKET". **EVERY** Market is regulated. Get over it.

Name me ONE BUSINESS that doesn't have to comply with regulations, local, state and federal....

Y'all aint' suggesting people shouldn't collect and remit sales tax, are you?

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 11:40:38 AM   
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quote:

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Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem?

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



You are talking to mannequins.  Housesub thinks that the government building a freeway "creates" a healthy economy.  If that were the case, of course, everyone would simply work for the government.  If the government wants to create a better environment for the private sector in which the private sector will start expanding, the president will have to sign Cut, Cap and Balance or something similar thereto.  Housesub will never understand that.  So despite what you have said, he will say the same thing with hopeless redundancy;  "But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill."

Housesub...what is a "jobs bill"?  Is the government supposed to come to your house and offer you a job?  Exactly WHAT are you asking for?  Whom do you expect to hire you; a state, local or federal government or a private employer like a corporation, store, contracting team, etc?  What would be said in this "jobs bill" that would cause a private company to offer you or anyone else a job?   

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 11:46:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem?

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



You are talking to mannequins.  Housesub thinks that the government building a freeway "creates" a healthy economy.  If that were the case, of course, everyone would simply work for the government.  If the government wants to create a better environment for the private sector in which the private sector will start expanding, the president will have to sign Cut, Cap and Balance or something similar thereto.  Housesub will never understand that.  So despite what you have said, he will say the same thing with hopeless redundancy;  "But wasn't it the GOP who ran during the last election on creating JOBS JOBS JOBS  and since taking over the house they have failed to introduce 1 jobs bill."

Housesub...what is a "jobs bill"?  Is the government supposed to come to your house and offer you a job?  Exactly WHAT are you asking for?  Whom do you expect to hire you; a state, local or federal government or a private employer like a corporation, store, contracting team, etc?  What would be said in this "jobs bill" that would cause a private company to offer you or anyone else a job?   


His speech today was the same old campaign rhetoric redux. Instead of a "hopey changey" thing it was "blame the GOP", and was just another campaign stop. They better charge the cost of the fucking bus and the trip to his campaign and not the taxpayers. His plan in September (just 2 years late, lol) will be more tax and spend, prettied up with words like "shared sacrifice". It will be totally worthless to the gaggle of 12.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 11:47:25 AM   
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So, there will be no more talk of Obama failed at jobs then.

However, the teabaggers and other rinos entire overreaching election propaganda was jobs, jobs, jobs. Which means then, essentially, they were lying as always.

And they have only lost them.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 12:21:58 PM   
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So, there will be no more talk of Obama failed at jobs then.

However, the teabaggers and other rinos entire overreaching election propaganda was jobs, jobs, jobs. Which means then, essentially, they were lying as always.

And they have only lost them.


Wow....liberals....Obama FAILED at creating jobs because he did not demand that the House come up with a bill to incentivize job creation.  A bill of that nature would have included personal and corporate tax cuts and, perhaps, some deregulation.  PERIOD!  No WPA....No CCC.......just some lower taxes and maybe a temporary suspension of the capital gains rate.

What has O'scumbag agreed to?  He has agreed to leaving unchanged the top tax bracket, the imposition of which caused H.W. Bush to lose his bid for re-election.  Big, fucking deal.  He has agreed that payroll taxes should not be increased from 8% to 13% which I have been saying all summer would be catastrophic....so now he agrees with me.  Both of the above are NOT changes....they are a status quo that is already too punitive. 

Is out debt at 100% of GDP yet?  How fast will it go from 100% to 105%?  Faster and faster with the momentum we are building, would everyone agree with that?  If interest rates move upward it will go faster even still...yes?  Will liberals ever consider that--it might just be possible--the decline of this country is really going according to plan?  I'm not trying to get into a conspiracy tangent but............could it be?  Could it be that bringing full blown socialism to the U.S. is exactly what O'scumbag and his puppet masters want OR do you think that is beyond the realm of even a possibility.  Just curious what people think.

Oh...you know...I have to laugh.  You see the riots in Greece, right?  I have been saying that we are going the way of Greece and all the regulars here know it.  You have seen the riots in London, right?  Have you seen the Flash Mobs in Philly?  Get ready to see a lot more.  Here is where I piss everyone off; those Flash Mobs should happen in the stores and neighborhoods of liberals..............not conservatives.  The entitlement, "relative poverty minded" hordes that are going to fill the streets should first victimize those that support their creation. 

Ok...go ahead and call me an asshole and a motherfucker and an angry, white man.  I welcome it.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 12:27:07 PM   
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Maybe he should have let some half bearded halfwit knock over a couple of ugly buildings in New York: that seems to be a good way for a lame duck president to shift any political debate into fantasy land bullshit rather than a discussion of real issues, after all.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 12:28:49 PM   
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Dont be fucking retarded. Boener is too busy sucking off the rest of the republicans in the cloakrooms?
They had time to come up with bills that were so fucking stupid they couldnt even make it out of the house with their own people.....

So we are waiting on these worthless republican house cocksuckers to be told what to do?

Maybe why there is so much getting fucked up down their with the deer in the headlights act.

You got no plan, you got no ideas, but by god look at this, Obama didnt tell us what to do.




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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 12:31:48 PM   
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Dont be fucking retarded. Boener is too busy sucking off the rest of the republicans in the cloakrooms?
They had time to come up with bills that were so fucking stupid they couldnt even make it out of the house with their own people.....

So we are waiting on these worthless republican house cocksuckers to be told what to do?

Maybe why there is so much getting fucked up down their with the deer in the headlights act.

You got no plan, you got no ideas, but by god look at this, Obama didnt tell us what to do.





I see you are the same asshole, idiot that still can't answer a question.  I don't know why I expect more from some bullet headed, pock faced moron like you. 

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 12:38:10 PM   
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I answered your stupid fucking question, shiteater. Fucking imbicile lying out here on the net.

Big fuckin deal.

I am not required to answer every fucking idiotic rant, I mean how much honest discourse have you engaged in? How many times have you honestly answered my questions?

Fuckin Zero, to both. So, stick it up your ass. You are a laughingstock out here nobody takes your ignorance seriously.

The house (a lawyer should know the constitution at a 1st grade level) is responsible for the money, if the debt goes up, if the cieling is raised, if the deficit grows, if the economy falters.....

Well read the constitution before you go on your shift at KFC.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 1:05:48 PM   
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I answered your stupid fucking question, shiteater. Fucking imbicile lying out here on the net.

Big fuckin deal.

I am not required to answer every fucking idiotic rant, I mean how much honest discourse have you engaged in? How many times have you honestly answered my questions?

Fuckin Zero, to both. So, stick it up your ass. You are a laughingstock out here nobody takes your ignorance seriously.

The house (a lawyer should know the constitution at a 1st grade level) is responsible for the money, if the debt goes up, if the cieling is raised, if the deficit grows, if the economy falters.....

Well read the constitution before you go on your shift at KFC.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL golly...was "asshole-idiot, bullet-headed, pock-faced moron" too strong?  hehe  Hey...there is nothing I said that was retarded, genius.  We get back to the same argument that you are too fucking intellectually dishonest and bankrupt to address and THAT IS that while the House is responsible for the money, the President influences (if not out and out directs) what the members of the House that belong to his party propose.  You aren't so stupid as to not recognize that, are you?  Perhaps you are.  I didn't think you were...but I realize I was mistaken.

Now...I asked about whether the destruction of the U.S. was..........possibly........purposeful.  Did you answer that?  No.  You just said "don't be retarded".  Well...there are a great many people who do feel like the condition of this country is exactly what O'scumbag and his puppet masters want.  That is why I posed the question. 

I asked in my earlier post "What has O'scumbag agreed to?"  I answered that question by calling it the status quo that is already too punitive.  If I am retarded, why not address that I have been saying that payroll taxes should not, under any fucking circumstances be raised (and, yet, now Obama agrees) and I was on the wrong side of that issue?  YOUR BOY agrees with me.  Was I right all along or is he now retarded?

You are dishonest.  Disingenuous.  A liar.  A fraud.  "Asshole-idiot, bullet-headed, pock-mocked moron was the wrong thing to call you.  My apologies.  Dishonest, disingenuous, liar and fraud are MUCH more accurate.

I have asked you questions all the time.  You ignore them.  I have ignored you as a gnat that has nothing to offer but saying really weird stuff about men sucking each other off.........all the fucking time.  I don't know how you get your kicks, but that invective is worn out.  I call you a gnat IN RESPONSE to you addressing my posts in a meaningless fashion.  If you are going to continue to address my posts in a MEANINGLESS fashion, I am going to continue treating you the way I do. 

Are we clear?

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 1:09:48 PM   
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Can you name these puppet masters?
If the names you provide are the same financiers who were running the chimp, you'll need to explain why you find it so offensive that they're running the Kenyan as well, bear in mind: I doubt you're the sort of leftist who finds it offensive that the Kenyan's as far to the right as the chimp was, after all...

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 1:29:09 PM   
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You are to fucking stupid perhaps beyond your dishonesty (intellectual? you havent any) realize that Obama has proposed since february of his first year in office, budgets, deals, compromises, and so on regarding this, both to his (minority) and your majority.

And I am not going to go round and round about payroll taxes, because they should be raised on high incomes, and I have said it and said it, you need not worry at the KFC you wont be involved.

Let us not forget that since the days of reagan, every republican has put us deeper in the hole, and like a black hole at some point you cant crawl out, and thats what is destroying the country, and the republicans including you want to borrow and borrow and borrow, and put off your responsibilities onto future generations, thats destroying this country.

You have made the outright statement that by appeasing corporations, one can hold on to their job a little longer, but agreed that they are going away anyhow, no matter how much appeasement is granted by the country destroying republicans, instead of fixing the problem.

And your fucked up shit about payroll taxes...I dont give a glimmer of a fuck about this:


If I am retarded, why not address that I have been saying that payroll taxes should not, under any fucking circumstances be raised (and, yet, now Obama agrees) and I was on the wrong side of that issue? YOUR BOY agrees with me. Was I right all along or is he now retarded?

This of course is intellectually dishonest. Obama had to agree to NO payroll tax increase on top earners as a matter of getting a ceiling extension and some other actual cuts.

And he aint my boy. And you are on the wrong side of the issue, since we are coming to a place that severe and I mean draconian severe cuts must be made. And that still wont be enough. For many years everybody played and put off payment. The entire US is on welfare, borrow against future, and not standing on your own paying your way.

But you come out here dishonest from the get go, you aint a lawyer (it has been proven repeatedly), you are a sockpuppet. But you like to portray yourself as a successful internet millionaire and BMOC when in fact, all you do is prophesy doom and take absurd one sided unworkable and unreasoned simpleminded stances on complex issues, holding yourself out to be the ultimate authority based on this scantily clothed rabidity with the sole exception of the one thing you would show yourself in the best light at, which is to remain totally mute.

so....you come here at the outset in all manner of (very flimsy) deceit and then got the goddamn gall to call anyone but yourself a fucking total imbicile?

go over in the corner by your dish and lay down.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 1:55:38 PM   
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Can you name these puppet masters?
If the names you provide are the same financiers who were running the chimp, you'll need to explain why you find it so offensive that they're running the Kenyan as well, bear in mind: I doubt you're the sort of leftist who finds it offensive that the Kenyan's as far to the right as the chimp was, after all...


Members of the Bildenburg Group including, but not limited to, Barclay's Bank, the Rockefeller family, Morgan's, Goulds, Rothchilds, etc.  I think that the European Union is a concept that has existed for over 100 years as well as the North American Union.  There are families with MUCH more money than they country of their origin and that includes the U.S.  I think that every president since that creation of the Federal Reserve has been a puppet to that organization, at the very least.  I think, Moonbeam, that the world is controlled by banks...not people, not an electorate.

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RE: Obama's Failed Administration - 8/17/2011 1:58:42 PM   
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As I have said repeatedly, all lobbying, all special interest, all corporations and unions should be outlawed from political contribution, or spending a penny on a junket or lunch for political figures or others on the fringe of policy making.

That would go 99.999999999% of the way towards fixing this country.

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