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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 3:55:21 PM   
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First of all, the person actually calling you doesn't have the option as to when they call, they are sort of restricted to calling during their shift.

Secondly, how on earth are they supposed to know when you have supper? When I was doing surveys, I got told off for calling at suppertime anywhere between 4 PM and 9 PM. So, "suppertime" is a vague thing that varies from household to household. Sorry, you have no leg to stand on, if you rag on them, you're just being petty and vindictive.


Actually I don't rag on them, I tried the nice "no thanks" but found they just tried harder and I had to hang up on them just to get them to stop. Now I just don't answer or the rare times I do answer hang up.


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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 3:55:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		"You can't say "its not the fault of the poor schmuck making the call", because yes, they decided to work there, as opposed to down the street in another industry."

Down the street where ? I used to be mean but then I figured there was no point, and this keeping them on the phone shit is a good idea. It shouldn't hurt them. Fuck the company they work for though. Thing is, try to find a job out there. Go ahead. Yeah, you can just pick and chose any job you want huh ? What planet are you on ?

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 3:57:55 PM   
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You can't say "its not the fault of the poor schmuck making the call", because yes, they decided to work there, as opposed to down the street in another industry.
And jobs are just there for the asking. Don't be an idiot, nobody does it if they have another option.

The rest of it, just more of the same selfish ignorance. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if I wasted your time at work just for laughs, now would you.

You are just as vomit inducing as the others. You are all pathetic. making excuses, if you want to be an asshole, then at least have the guts to say you're being an asshole just for the hell of it instead of trying to justify your actions with obviously empty rationalizations. There is no excuse, it's inexcusable, so stop trying. Just be honest about it. You're acting like a jerk with them because you are a jerk, and can get away with it.


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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 4:02:16 PM   
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When my daughter was 2 years old, she LOVED to listen to the phone.  Whenever a telemarketer called, I silently handed the phone to her.  She would get a big beaming smile on her face when she heard the voice talking to her.  But she wouldn't say anything.  Eventually, they'd hang up and she would get this sad expression on her face.

Ah, memories...



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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 4:04:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		"The rest of it, just more of the same selfish ignorance. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if I wasted your time at work just for laughs, now would you."
 
It's not for laughs. What about MY time ? What about MY shit burning in the broiler ? What about my dripping tranny oil on the kitchen floor because someone wants me to have HBO free for a month ?

FUCK ALL THAT. I will not be mean these days, but I'll be goddamnned if I am going to worry about their fucking empty suit bosse's bottom fucking line. They get it by the hour, fuck it.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 4:06:08 PM   
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I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if I wasted your time at work just for laughs, now would you.



I think sheer frustration is more the driving point than laughs.


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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 5:48:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I am against you on this one Heather:

1) I am on the Do not Call list - It does not stop everyone and they still call
2) I have a private and unlisted number - but they still get through
3) I even have caller reveal so any private or blocked number for called ID will prevent the call from getting through- Yet they can still put a false number in just to get through and they do.

I did not ask the poor smuck to call me. My home phone gets forwarded to my work cell when I travel so family & friends can get a hold of me if need. I also happen to work shifts when traveling. Its no fun to get a call in the middle of sleeping after you just worked a 16 hour shift. So if you call me in the middle of sleeping you damn well better be willing to take whatever I dish out.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 7:31:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Which is exactly WHY I got rid of any land-line.  Now, it's only my cellphone and I get no telemarketing calls.  Hell, I haven't even given my # to family because I don't want to talk to them.  The only people who reach me are those I want to talk to.  My dad is under strict orders not to give my phone # out without checking with me first.  He knows why, and agrees with me completely.  I get the occasional wrong # but that's it. 




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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:07:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I only use a cell phone, too, but I still get telemarketing calls on it.  I just don't answer them.  I get marketing texts now, too, which is totally annoying.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:09:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		More empty justifications. More moral cowardice. And even more disappointment for me. <There isn't a "shaking head sadly" smiley, so just imagine one here.>

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:20:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are ways to get restraining orders on people that harass you. These companies will harass you and get around every angle you could use to protect yourself from them and we are supposed to be nice? Nice, because they need the job?

  Somehow that smells like... enabling an abuser and excusing poor behavior. So what if I tell them they just interrupted some great and kinky sex! Most laughed, but didn't call back. Poor things. If they had no control over the calls, who they called and how often... how was it that my response stopped those calls from repeat people calling under names and area codes that I might have business in.. and turning out to be a company and not joe blow.

If that makes me bad... okay... you did read the bitch thread didn't ya? Well, there ya go. It's all good.


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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:34:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

More empty justifications. More moral cowardice. And even more disappointment for me. <There isn't a "shaking head sadly" smiley, so just imagine one here.>


I am not sure how not wanting to be wokening up by a pestering telemarketer while your sleeping after working 16 hours translates to moral cowardice? But I am funny that way



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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:34:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heather,

Beginning today I began getting calls by a number that listed itself as "Urgent Call". I did a reverse look up and discovered it is a diabetic supply company.
This particular company called my number 6 times today and the one time I answered to ask to be taken off their list it was a hang up.

I would not have so much of an issue with telemarketers if everything they did was above board, but it isn't.
I am on the do not call list
yet...
I have had scammers call.
I have had rude people call who get verbally abusive when you tell them no and when you try to call the number back to complain it won't accept incoming calls.
Some of these "professionals" cuss out the people they are calling.

So, if we are to give them the respect that is their due then the least they could do is to be nice and play by the rules, and quite often they don't.

Sometimes I am sure they are just following orders but sometimes they just don't give a fuck.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 8:40:05 PM   
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you did read the bitch thread didn't ya? Well, there ya go. It's all good.
way to slap her down!!

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:05:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mummyman321


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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

More empty justifications. More moral cowardice. And even more disappointment for me. <There isn't a "shaking head sadly" smiley, so just imagine one here.>


I am not sure how not wanting to be wokening up by a pestering telemarketer while your sleeping after working 16 hours translates to moral cowardice? But I am funny that way



I'm an asshole to my friends who wake me up while I'm sleeping. They all know now - Do NOT call or text before 8AM and do NOT call or text after I've said I'm lying down for a nap (as a friend did yesterday).  It's been joked about that there's a whole new side to me when awakened by an inconsiderate call.


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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:10:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		So here's a few thoughts.

First--telemarketing agencies aren't free, meaning they pay for the lists, pay for the computer/software systems (most of these agencies now run on autodialers), rent for the building and phone lines, and of course....the salaries of the staff who are the voice on the other end.  Yet so many of these agencies exist because....it works!  People buy their services.   If it wasn't successful, these businesses would not continue to fund those expenses.  So keep in mind while it annoys you (and for that matter....me) obviously there are people out there buying the goods.

Being mean to the telemarketer will not stop the calls.  It just demeans the employee, who has no control over who he or she dials.  Turnover for telemarketers is probably huge.  Yes....you hate  them.... they hate it too, I can almost guarantee. My ex-wife did it for a month.  She wasn't selling a product, she was actually taking a gallup poll, which was remarkably interesting to her, but she grew tired of the abuse. (political polls are exempt, by the way)

So if the "Do Not Call" registry isn't working.... I suggest the following instead of yelling at the employee.

1.  Make sure you have a written record of your DNC register...it can take up to a month to take effect.

2. Annoying as it is, keep a detailed log by the phone.  Record the date, time and number that called you.  Inform the agent you wish to be placed on the DNC list, and ask how long it will take to become effective. Then ask for their operator identification number and the name of their company.  They rarely will give you their name--even the first name is often not real.  But they all have an operator number to give them their anonymity.  IF POSSIBLE, DO NOT DELETE THE NUMBERS FROM CALLER ID.  This will help with your case.

3.  If the calls continue, ask to be transferred (politely) to a Customer Service manager, explain you've asked to be placed on the DNC list, and if happens again, you can report them to the FTC (Federal Trade Commission)  there is also a quick complaint link on the DNC website.  The fines levied against companies who violate the DNC are quite hefty. 

Here's some light reading...it's the FTC code on telemarketing.
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus27-complying-telemarketing-sales-rule#DNCprovisions



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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:17:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used to work as a telemarketer. Hated the job but it was a job.
None of the lines anyone has given  here shocked any of us. We'd just shrug our shoulders and hang up and move onto the next number on the page. Remember the people doing the calling are doing the same thing you're doing....just trying to make a living to pay their bills. They don't like the job anymore than you like them calling you.



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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:24:20 PM   
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If it has been said already, track down Jim Florentine's "Terrorizing Telemarketers". I think theres 2 or 3 of them, and the last funny thing Howard Stern ever played/did.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:27:14 PM   
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Heather,

Beginning today I began getting calls by a number that listed itself as "Urgent Call". I did a reverse look up and discovered it is a diabetic supply company.
This particular company called my number 6 times today and the one time I answered to ask to be taken off their list it was a hang up.

I would not have so much of an issue with telemarketers if everything they did was above board, but it isn't.
I am on the do not call list
yet...
I have had scammers call.
I have had rude people call who get verbally abusive when you tell them no and when you try to call the number back to complain it won't accept incoming calls.
Some of these "professionals" cuss out the people they are calling.

So, if we are to give them the respect that is their due then the least they could do is to be nice and play by the rules, and quite often they don't.

Sometimes I am sure they are just following orders but sometimes they just don't give a fuck.


http://tenblogger.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Stop-Telemarketing-Calls

I have to confess I did part time work some years ago in market research. Here's a few good tips, and they work.

1. Get your phone number added to a list of numbers that are barred from ever being called for selling or market research purposes. In the UK, Ipsos Mori are technically allowed to still contact you provided they are just asking opinions of you and not selling you anything. Anyone else who contacts you can be call-barred. The Telecommuniocations Regulator will enforce it happily. Also children under 16 in the UK cannot be interviewed.

2. Simply tell the caller that your number is an emergency medical number and is connected to a surgery and asdk them to take your number off their database. 99% of firms will comply, they don't want to make waves. I know this is a lie, but it can work...

3. Just ask the company to delete your number form their database. Most will do it, albeit reluctantly.

People who ring you like that are working on a commission, and so the higher their "strike rate", the better they get paid. But in most european countries, there are rules to how far they can go.

PS, sometimes firms will generate your number purely by randomising them in a computer, to target a certain catchment area, but they have no idea who they are calling. I once had to do a ten minute survey with a priest about "sex education". Hoo boy!

4. Some firms offer incentives for surveys and opinions. Doctors get paid anything from 10 to 50 per survey otherwise they hang up.

Some market research can be quite useful. It does have its uses. It can genuinely help to improve services sometimes.

We always hate it when the unwanted calls come during dinner time. In such time, you can politely ask them to hold the phone line, keep it on speaker phone and continue with your routine. You can add some fun by saying.. pass me the pizza or salad .. if the operator responds … just tell him ..oh just having some pizza…it’s really yummy... want some ?

“Hey.. You really have a very sweet voice. Why don’t we to go out for a coffee? We can handle all this business in the coffee shop.” Most likely the person on other end of the phone will understand that you are not serious about talking.. So they will drop the call.

Some other fun things would be - Ask them to repeat what they are saying and do that 4 -5 times and they will probably hang up the phone. For some easy words ask them to spell the word. For example if someone is calling for refinance the mortgage.. ask them spell out refinance and mortgage. Act as if you are trying to write it down slowly.





Hope this helps a bit.

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RE: Best Way to Mess with Telemarketers - 8/23/2011 9:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I pay for my land line telephone service so I consider it there for MY convenience. Ditto my cell phone service (I have minimal-cost plans for both because it's actually the least expensive way for me to have adequate phone access.) I'm on every do not call list known to man, and they still call, as do all the 'exempt' folks like political campaigners and 'fundraisers' for the police and fire departments. Caller ID screens some and others appear as 'blocked' numbers which helps me avoid them...but Caller ID costs ME extra, not them. When telemarketers start paying for my phone service, they can go ahead and call. It is NOT COOL to invade the privacy of my home to advertise on MY dime.

I've had the same number for 22 years. For 22 years I've been getting threatening phone calls from creditors looking for someone in my town with the same last name and first initial. She was totally easy to find both online and in the phone book. If it's so easy for me to find out her number and street address (and btw, she's the only Abc Wxyz listed), why the foogly can't these companies track her down? When I asked them this, they told me they just go down a list of everybody with the same initials and name in this town until they hit the right person. How lame and time-consuming is that when you can just use google like I did?

And...don't even get me started on advertising texts. I pay by the minute for cell phone service, and can't see who texted until it downloads the message and eaten the equivalent time unit never to be gotten back. To text back to get them to take me off their 'list' costs me again, so I don't bother.

Ya know, there was something to using smoke signals. And it was a fook of a lot quieter.

Do I need to be rude or polite to telemarketers? I don't need to be anything to telemarketers. I didn't ask them to call, so I just hang up. Time is money to them, and bullshitters on the 'invaded' end of the line aren't going to make them any money so I'm actually doing them a favor.

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