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tj444 -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:16:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker Why don't you kids come inside for some nice lemonade and pie? (tj perks up) ummm,.. what kinda pie??? [8D] You're not invited. HAHAHA, OH, I BET THAT RUINED YOUR MORNING. YEAH, AMERICA. Just kidding. It's lemon. mmm... i havent had lemon pie in a long time... i like pumpkin pie too.. you know its getting to that time of the year.. but really, its too early in the morning for pie... pizza maybe,.. but not pie.. [:(]

Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:17:25 AM)
quote: What I was saying about lack of factual evidence was in reference to your comment on my intelligence. I'm sure you know that, but prefer to twist words. But I wasn't twisting words, I was again referencing your intelligence, and the fact that you missed that is yet more of that factual evidence you claim I don't have. quote: In answer to your question about where in your post did you mention the concept of altering sexual preferences, you said "people do indeed change in this respect, given an open mind and a touch of education." I did indeed say that, but if you would care to actually read the entire paragraph, you would see that I wasn't referencing sexual preferences, I was referencing biases for or against a gender preference. I am going to consider this yet more factual evidence.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:18:35 AM)
My father, before he died, told me two things... It is never too early for pie. The moon is a space station. Are you calling my father a liar?

lobodomslavery -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:18:43 AM)
Who wants some ice cream? ice cream you SCREAM WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM kevin

tj444 -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:20:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker My father, before he died, told me two things... It is never too early for pie. The moon is a space station. Are you calling my father a liar? no, i think its merely a difference in time zones.. [:D]

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:22:30 AM)
Well you should've called him one, because he is alive and well. He also thinks conspiracy theorists are morons. And he hates pie.

GreedyTop -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:26:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Who wants some ice cream? ice cream you SCREAM WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM kevin anything to do with you makes me want to scrub myelf with bleach. youy give those folks who are Irish (whether or not they LIVE in Ireland/are Irish descendants/etc. hell.. even those that onnly WISH they were Irish,..) a name that makes them all wanna puke,....

Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:26:29 AM)
quote: no, you are wrong. i was at one time open to a relationship with a bisexual guy however i have since changed my mind and opinion on that and now i am not, it has nothing to do with education in any regard. I am not referring to formal education or classroom education, I am using the term in the sense of learning or being taught something. Some new information or experience contributed to your change in bias, unless you are wanting me to believe you were walking down the street one day and out of the blue just decided "Hey, I don't think I will be open to a relationship with bi guys anymore." for no reason whatsoever. That new experience or information taught you something, and thus, you were educated by it.

DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:27:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: What I was saying about lack of factual evidence was in reference to your comment on my intelligence. I'm sure you know that, but prefer to twist words. But I wasn't twisting words, I was again referencing your intelligence, and the fact that you missed that is yet more of that factual evidence you claim I don't have. Once again, your opinion, there are no facts there. quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: In answer to your question about where in your post did you mention the concept of altering sexual preferences, you said "people do indeed change in this respect, given an open mind and a touch of education." I did indeed say that, but if you would care to actually read the entire paragraph, you would see that I wasn't referencing sexual preferences, I was referencing biases for or against a gender preference. I am going to consider this yet more factual evidence. You made an implication both about sexual preferences and about my comment. But that is aside from the majority of our debate. You say that "excluding a person for bisexuality is NOT a sexual preference" and that is the essence of the debate. Your declaration is far too broad a statement. You can't know what everyone's sexual preferences are and since you don't, you cannot exclude the fact that there are people who are turned off by bisexuality in a partner. If they are turned off, that is part of their sexual preference. It doesn't speak to their support for or against anyone who sees themselves as being bisexual. It's quite possible to be sexually turned off by that person, but find them quite engaging as a human being in a non-sexual context.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:28:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Who wants some ice cream? ice cream you SCREAM WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM kevin anything to do with you makes me want to scrub myelf with bleach. youy give those folks who are Irish (whether or not they LIVE in Ireland/are Irish descendants/etc. hell.. even those that onnly WISH they were Irish,..) a name that makes them all wanna puke,.... Haha... arrogant for being Irish. Silly gingers.

tj444 -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:31:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker Well you should've called him one, because he is alive and well. He also thinks conspiracy theorists are morons. And he hates pie. more pie for us then! (squeals of joy)... I will save mine for a little later.. [:)]

DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:32:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: no, you are wrong. i was at one time open to a relationship with a bisexual guy however i have since changed my mind and opinion on that and now i am not, it has nothing to do with education in any regard. I am not referring to formal education or classroom education, I am using the term in the sense of learning or being taught something. Some new information or experience contributed to your change in bias, unless you are wanting me to believe you were walking down the street one day and out of the blue just decided "Hey, I don't think I will be open to a relationship with bi guys anymore." for no reason whatsoever. That new experience or information taught you something, and thus, you were educated by it. You and I have differing definitions of what constitutes "educated". Sometimes, when reading your posts, I get the impression you alter your meaning in order to make it appear that everyone else is at fault in not "getting" your version.

GreedyTop -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:34:36 AM)
I have no Irish blood in me.. no dog in this hunt... other than as someone who travels, he is a pisspoor example of those whoi are Irish. gladly, I can see that. I feel sorry for anyone who might see his crap and decide he is representive of anyone who IS Irish'/descened of Irish parents, etc., and may not have ever interacted to know better.

Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:36:50 AM)
quote: I think what you are failing to understand is that she is talking about being open or not open, in a sexual manner. That doesn't necessarily equate to being supportive or unsupportive. The two are entirely different spheres. The spheres may overlap, but not necessarily so. Oh shut the fuck up. If you want to dispute things do so on a basis with some semblance of sense. Stop spouting asinine nonsense like some blithering idiot. What I said is exactly the same thing as what she said, just using different words that have the same meaning in the context in which we were speaking. TJ had no trouble groking that. Hmmmm...yet more factual evidence.

tj444 -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:37:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: no, you are wrong. i was at one time open to a relationship with a bisexual guy however i have since changed my mind and opinion on that and now i am not, it has nothing to do with education in any regard. I am not referring to formal education or classroom education, I am using the term in the sense of learning or being taught something. Some new information or experience contributed to your change in bias, unless you are wanting me to believe you were walking down the street one day and out of the blue just decided "Hey, I don't think I will be open to a relationship with bi guys anymore." for no reason whatsoever. That new experience or information taught you something, and thus, you were educated by it. again, you are wrong. There was no new experience or new information, it was just a decision i made. Just as being open to guys in the US changed to now open to guys in the US sunbelt only, same kinda decision...

lobodomslavery -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:39:26 AM)
what is wrong with You. Do you not know the Irish are WORLD FAMOUS for their camraderie, we are one of the most friendliest nations on the earth. We beat the arrogant stuck up Brits any day of the week kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:40:52 AM)
where is your evidence for this. ive tried to be friendly . all ive met with is cynicism from You. lighten up girlie kevin

DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:42:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop I have no Irish blood in me.. no dog in this hunt... other than as someone who travels, he is a pisspoor example of those whoi are Irish. gladly, I can see that. I feel sorry for anyone who might see his crap and decide he is representive of anyone who IS Irish'/descened of Irish parents, etc., and may not have ever interacted to know better. I can't help wonder if he has some genuine impairment in his social abilities. Perhaps he has some sort of social interaction disorder?

DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:46:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: I think what you are failing to understand is that she is talking about being open or not open, in a sexual manner. That doesn't necessarily equate to being supportive or unsupportive. The two are entirely different spheres. The spheres may overlap, but not necessarily so. Oh shut the fuck up. If you want to dispute things do so on a basis with some semblance of sense. Stop spouting asinine nonsense like some blithering idiot. What I said is exactly the same thing as what she said, just using different words that have the same meaning in the context in which we were speaking. TJ had no trouble groking that. Hmmmm...yet more factual evidence. Shut the fuck up? Nice. You seem to frequently respond in an angry manner. You see it as asinine nonsense, I see it as you not having the capacity to see past your own need to "be right". Perhaps tj can enlighten us as to whether she was speaking of being open in a sexual manner or a non-sexual manner.

myotherself -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/18/2011 7:47:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery what is wrong with You. Do you not know the Irish are WORLD FAMOUS for their camraderie, we are one of the most friendliest nations on the earth. We beat the arrogant stuck up Brits any day of the week kevin Ooooh, got a chip on your shoulder? Or is that a whole potato?

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