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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:17:39 AM   
blnymph


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Status: offline 		but the whole world including more then 50 governments dont know a thing but the Texas authorities do and those who defend a crime against humanity

this could make one sick

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:18:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cooper didn't die, stupid.  You would have known that if you had read the link you posted.  And he wasn't the driver. 

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Davis commited two murders that night. Perhaps you were so buissy screaming injustice you didn't bother to find out all the facts. First he shot at a moving car killing the driver, wich had three other passengers in it. The reasons for why he opened fire on the car are unclear witnesses testified several different reasons but none were congruent, later that night (around 1 hour) he executed a police officer in a parking lot after assaulting a man for not giving him his beer.


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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:21:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is exactly why you should stop posting. You don't even have the right godamn state. Last time I checked, no one was protesting the organ harvesting in China. You want a crime against humanity, pour your bleeding heart out over there. Pretty sure there isn't a single American that would jump over to your kneck of the woods and dictate to you how to punish murders. But I'm certain there are quite a few that could lend some ideas.



Edit Cooper lived, removed multiple

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:21:21 AM   
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So we get one more poster coming along and offering irrefutable proof that they have absolutely no taste...and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that a lack of taste can cross all political lines.


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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:24:46 AM   
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So we get one more poster coming along and offering irrefutable proof that they have absolutely no taste...and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that a lack of taste can cross all political lines.


Mike,
   There are all kinds of badly scarred people in the world. Blind Mellon Dylans are just a slice of the pie.




So we get one more poster coming along and offering irrefutable proof that they are so fucking clueless as to think that their taste is any better than anybody else taste. I wonder why its called "taste". hmmmmm

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:25:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Georgia.  Not Texas.  But don't feel bad, Endivus has only a passing knowledge of the facts too.  And he is the one spouting off like he is some kind of expert.
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but the whole world including more then 50 governments dont know a thing but the Texas authorities do and those who defend a crime against humanity

this could make one sick


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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:25:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		So he attempted one murder and succeded at another. I guess that makes it all better.

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:28:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are hilarious.  And not very credible.  Perhaps you were so buissy (sic) screaming [that justice had been done] you didn't bother to find out all the facts.  I don't believe for a minute that you read the stuff you said you did.  Moron.

Maybe you should take your own advice.  Doesn't sound like you read the court rulings yourself.  :
The reason why there is this much doubt is because people are apathetic and lazy. If the people claiming he was innocent spent ten minutes reading just ONE of the court rulings or the trial transcript they would all shut the fuck up.


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

So he attempted one murder and succeded at another. I guess that makes it all better.


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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:32:24 AM   
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just in case your media didnt tell you - there have been appeals from all European governments, many Asian etc all over the world, the Pope asf ...
death penalty as such is a shame beyond any justification


I'll certainly agree that you folks in Germany have done very well since you did away with capital punishment. What, like in 1945,  wasn't it?



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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:32:41 AM   
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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:35:28 AM   
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quote:

just in case your media didnt tell you - there have been appeals from all European governments, many Asian etc all over the world, the Pope asf ...
death penalty as such is a shame beyond any justification


I'll certainly agree that you folks in Germany have done very well since you did away with capital punishment. What, like in 1945,  wasn't it?





I guess 100k Jews put them on a linear curve, at this rate we only need a thousand years to catch up.

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:38:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I know you are dumb, or just a liar.  One of those.  And how am I wrong?  For having an opinion that differs from yours?  Fuck you.
On the other hand, we KNOW you are wrong, since you can't even get the facts right when you are spouting off.  After having spent hours studying the case, of course.  Absolutely laughable. 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Endivius

I don't know if you're dumb or just angry because you are wrong and can't stand it.


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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:44:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm perfectly content with conceding that the driver lived. A fact I did get wrong. Doesn't change a fucking thing though(it proves I'm human and tired, not that you are right). He attepted to kill one person and succeded in executing a police officer in a parking lot filled with innocent bystanders after assaulting a third victim. So, cupcake where's your innocence at? Let's be clear, he shot the police officer from 5 feet away in the face. He could have fled the scene. Instead he approached the victim who was lying down, and shot him two more times, THEN fled. By all means, dispute that.

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:47:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		And you are deliberately misconstruing what I say.  I don't know whether he was innocent or not.  My concern is that the process was unfair, unfair enough to make me question whether he could have been convicted beyond a reasonable doubt.  Maybe he could have, maybe not.  I still believe he was entitled to be tried based on unbiased and untainted evidence.   Like I have said about 10 times.

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:51:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not diliberately misconstruing anything. You might have time to go back and change those posts still. You know, so you won't sound like a fucking tard. Kinda hard when the post I'm responding to is whining about tainted evidence and bias, in a case that has none.

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Abolition of death penalty in Germany: fist attempts 1848 (abolished in certain German states), then again 1919, finally abolished 1949 (West Germany - laste executions by the American military government 1951) and 1987 (GDR) - yes the Nazis were leading supporters of the death penalty - you can still find some of their arguments in wikipedia if you wish - very interesting ...
Abolition of death penalty in Austria: first abolished 1787, re-introduced 1795, again abolished 1919, re-introduced 1934, abolished again 1950
Abolition of death penalty in Switzerland 1942, in France 1981
first country to abolish death penalty Grand Duchy of Tuscany 1786 (now part of Italy, just to mention it)

Death penalty to abolish as a crime against human rights:
European Convention of Human Rights 1983
UN Resolution 2004/67 and again 2007

just a few facts

and right, I don't care about whether Troy Davis was guilty or (if so even worse) not guilty of his crimes
death penalty as such has to be abolished as a crime against human rights

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:55:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Endy, but you are the one who sounds like a fucking tard, what with going on about multiple murders and such.  Why would anything else you have to say be any more credible?


< Message edited by Iamsemisweet -- 9/22/2011 10:56:03 AM >

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:56:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		A public statement is not the same as a ruling. Spend less time trying to sound clever, and buy a fucking clue. 2nd post from the top of page 4 with the entire ruling.

< Message edited by Endivius -- 9/22/2011 11:28:03 AM >

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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 10:57:32 AM   
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I guess 100k Jews put them on a linear curve, at this rate we only need a thousand years to catch up.


100,000?

Figure always kicked around in my history classes was around 6,000,000



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RE: Troy Davis is now dead... - 9/22/2011 11:02:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Memory may have decieved me, as I recall only 100k were actually killed in germany.

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