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FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 5:03:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

My"regard" is generally lessened for those who make sweeping generalizations .Irrespective of party affiliation...that is one reason,surely not the only,why I have so much contempt for sanity.
My appraisal that you were not prone to this was one reason,certainly not the only ,that I held you in high regard.This thread and the theme you have hammered here is shaking that assumption.

If your "respect" is based on me agreeing with you, then I'm afraid we'll never have that.

I went back and re-read all of my posts, with an eye to identifying what - specifically - you are talking about. 

Other than the 'hypbole" comment, I don't see anything.

Unless you are taking offense at my post 92:

Nope, in this case, both I and Sanity are pointing out a fact:  when a black man or women goes off the liberal plantation, they are called "Uncle Tom's", "Oreos", "not real blacks" or ... especially if they are strong black males ... given the "high tech lynching" treatment, which involves attempting to tap into the "black men raping white women" meme from earlier in our history.

These are all racist techniques used by liberals and Democrats in attempts to discredit and control black conservatives.

And I'd take exception to your condemnation if it is.

Other than that, you'll have to specifically point out why you are talking the way that you are talking.

Firm



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 5:08:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

The MOMENT Cain referred this to Counsel and HR a paper trail began.

Just like Obama's Birth Certificate, Cain can end all this speculation immediately by just releasing those files.

WHY WON'T CAIN RELEASE THE FILES???


The organization gives its reason as one of confidentiality protocol. It could be that the agreements also included the organization not saying anything as well.

uh huh.

Not to mention, that releasing the files, and then taking weeks and months to take every little detail out of context and excoriate Cain in the process would certainly do wonders to trash him as a viable candidate.

Of course, since you and fargle are both known as such Seekers of Truth and Only Truth, that though never crossed either one of your minds. [8|]

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 5:10:13 PM)

Why are you even bothering talking to someone you feel is racist, firm? I would think that would be far beneath you



slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 5:22:34 PM)

Please Firm,let us try not to be ridicuous ,if my "respect" had ever hinged in who does or doesn't agree with me...you would have never had said respect.
And yes I am taking exception to that "fact" that you and sanity are both "pointing"out,that "fact" has long been the standard conservative response to the liberals views on civil rights and equality.As if any self respecting liberal can not simply find the likes of a Clarence Thomas or a Herman Cain offensive based solely on political ideology.
What I am also taking offense to tonight is your baseless accusation and accusatory demeanor with tazzy....but since she is doing such a slendid job dealing with that herself....the less I say about it the bettor .
My friends or not chosen by dint of agreeing with me on all issues....my respect is not parceled out due to a meeting of the minds.Hell a wise man once said you should be willing to forgive a friend one true failing...sometimes that failing happens to be a persons politics...sometimes it is just that he is habitually tardy .



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 5:32:16 PM)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/herman-cains-top-flip-flops/story?id=14790284

Number 1, abortions.... is enough for me to consider Cain a idiot.... but of course... Im calling him an idiot because he is black...not because he cant keep his stories straight.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:11:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And yes I am taking exception to that "fact" that you and sanity are both "pointing"out,that "fact" has long been the standard conservative response to the liberals views on civil rights and equality.As if any self respecting liberal can not simply find the likes of a Clarence Thomas or a Herman Cain offensive based solely on political ideology.

I have no issues with someone disliking a candidate based on their "political ideology".  As long as they are honest about stating that.

But to pretend that you are "only looking for the truth", while at the same time doing all you can to destroy their personal reputation ... seems a little dishonest, doesn't it?

And your other issue is that I agreed with Sanity about something?  I asked you to specifically point me to the words or post that you find offensive, but you have not.  I can only assume - until you do so - that you simply do not have a defense for our points, and that s what offends you.

If it is the fact that - almost without exception - any black conservative is hit with pretty much the same attacks, and always from the left side of the political spectrum ... well, I'm sorry that you find the truth distasteful, but it's the truth.  It's a particular attack solely used by the left: because it is only effective from that direction.

Hell, even Colin Powell was called an Uncle Tom ... until he "smartened up" and started endorsing Democratic programs and candidates.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

What I am also taking offense to tonight is your baseless accusation and accusatory demeanor with tazzy....but since she is doing such a slendid job dealing with that herself....the less I say about it the bettor .

We differ.  She's stirring shit, and playing the gotcha game.  When called on it, she resorts to a common ploy of being the "offended party" and demands an apology.

She is being intentional obtuse about the "lynching" ploy, and now trying to say I called her a racist ... hell, she's gone all the way to overtly playing the race card, now, so there's no chance that she can claim that she's an unknowing dupe of the technique.



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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

My friends or not chosen by dint of agreeing with me on all issues....my respect is not parceled out due to a meeting of the minds.Hell a wise man once said you should be willing to forgive a friend one true failing...sometimes that failing happens to be a persons politics...sometimes it is just that he is habitually tardy .

Yup.

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:13:00 PM)


FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

One gives a detailed description of the settlement... the other says he was not aware of a settlement.

Which is it?

Keep parsing them words, tazzy.

I'm sure you'll have him convicted of rape in no time.

After all - he is a black man, yanno. [8|]

Firm





FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:16:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

One gives a detailed description of the settlement... the other says he was not aware of a settlement.

Which is it?

Keep parsing them words, tazzy.

I'm sure you'll have him convicted of rape in no time.

After all - he is a black man, yanno. [8|]

See my post above.

You continue to defend using his race against him, and say you aren't, when that is exactly what you are doing.

Does that make you a racist?  I dunno.  I can't see into your heart.

It does make you a knowing accomplice of the liberal "high tech lynching" technique.

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:17:47 PM)

Show me where I ever used his race against him.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:19:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Show me where I ever used his race against him.

I have already.  Several times.  Search "high tech lynching".

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:21:03 PM)

You accuse others of doing that... something you also do not have proof of.

Now, you accused ME of using his race against him.

Show everyone where.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:26:15 PM)

Nagging isn't really an effective weapon to use against me, dear. 

I've been inoculated already. [8D]

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:28:11 PM)

Its not nagging. You cant. Its obvious to everyone. You are wrong, unwilling, and possibly unable, to admit you were wrong, so you try and talk me in circles.

Its not working.

Not here.

Not on the other thread.

You should feel rather silly right now.

You are looking pretty damn foolish.



slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:28:11 PM)

It wasn't I that pointed out that you and sanity happen to subscribe to the same bullshit belief...that was you in an earlier post.Remove sanity from the equation and you are still wrong...adding him to the equation has nothing to do with it save demonstrate your shitty taste in who you make common cause with.
Take care who you lie down with,lest you wind up scratching at fleas .



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:31:13 PM)

Fact is, it wouldnt matter who put up that story.... or who it was about. Given the same responses, the same reactions, I would ask the same question.

Because he is the one you have said you would support, you are determined to run everyone off this thread by labeling anyone who does not agree with you as racist.

Again, its not working. I will continue to question, and to look.

And I dont really give a shit how you feel about it.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:31:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

It wasn't I that pointed out that you and sanity happen to subscribe to the same bullshit belief...that was you in an earlier post.Remove sanity from the equation and you are still wrong...adding him to the equation has nothing to do with it save demonstrate your shitty taste in who you make common cause with.
Take care who you lie down with,lest you wind up scratching at fleas .

The only thing "wrong" with Sanity is that he sometimes uses a club, when a razor is more effective.

If you will point out the specifics ... not generalities about belief, but specific words and sentences that you find incorrect and offensive -  then we could work through it.

If you can't, then I'll have to leave you with your feelings.

Firm



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:34:52 PM)

~FR

Now, back to Cain.

Why is he back peddling so much?

First he didnt know anything about it.

Then he remembers, vaguely.

Then he recalls the first incident.. but states he doesnt remember the second.

The states both were settled, but he is innocent of any wrong doing.

The man is wishy washy to say the least.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:37:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Fact is, it wouldnt matter who put up that story.... or who it was about. Given the same responses, the same reactions, I would ask the same question.

Because he is the one you have said you would support, you are determined to run everyone off this thread by labeling anyone who does not agree with you as racist.

Again, its not working. I will continue to question, and to look.

And I dont really give a shit how you feel about it.

[8|]

I've addressed all of this previously.  It would simply be redundant and boring to do it again.

I know you'd like to tie me up with more of your "woe is me, big bad Firm is being a meanie to me!" crap.  But I've made my case, and I guess we'll just have to live with our words now, won't we?

Go fish. [8D]

Firm



slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:38:28 PM)

How more specific can I get Firm,you yourself pulled the quote...post 92 and your little "fact"... I find it offensive,a generalization and a standard defense whenever a liberal takes exception to the behavior of a conservative black Republican.



tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 6:40:17 PM)

You are wrong... you have been told so.

[;)]

You are also too arrogant to admit it.

Its cool.

I expected no less.



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