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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

How more specific can I get Firm,you yourself pulled the quote...post 92 and your little "fact"... I find it offensive,a generalization and a standard defense whenever a liberal takes exception to the behavior of a conservative black Republican.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You are wrong... you have been told so.

[;)]

You are also too arrogant to admit it.

Its cool.

I expected no less.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Now, back to Cain.

Why is he back peddling so much?

First he didnt know anything about it.

Then he remembers, vaguely.

Then he recalls the first incident.. but states he doesnt remember the second.

The states both were settled, but he is innocent of any wrong doing.

The man is wishy washy to say the least.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You are wrong... you have been told so.

[;)]

You are also too arrogant to admit it.

Its cool.

I expected no less.

where are the men when you need one..yanno the ones who can actually admit they misspoke or, were *gasp* wrong.
The good men!!! [;)] private joke for anyone getting their y-fronts in a knot

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Here's another:

Herman Cain Tells Press Club: 'I Never Sexually Harassed Anyone'
By: Kenric Ward | Posted: October 31, 2011 2:33 PM

Acknowledging that "the bull's-eye on my back has gotten bigger," GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain on Monday denied that he had engaged in sexual harassment when he headed the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s.

But Cain confirmed that he had been "accused," and branded the allegations reported in a Politico story over the weekend "totally baseless and totally false."

"In my over 40 years of running businesses and corporations, I have never sexually harassed anyone," he told an audience at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

"I was accused -- falsely, I might add. When the charges were brought, I recused myself, and allowed my general counsel and human-resources officer to deal with the matter.

"After a thorough investigation, it was determined there was no basis for the complaints," Cain related.

According to the Politico report, Cain allegedly "offended" two female staffers during his tenure at the NRA. The story indicated that "innuendo" and personal remarks of a "sexual, suggestive nature" were made by Cain at NRA events and offices.

Without naming any names, Politico quoted individuals who "witnessed physical gestures that were not overtly sexual."

Politico said a cash settlement was made to two women, who had reportedly signed an agreement to stay quiet about the matter.

The Georgia businessman said he was "not aware of a settlement."

"If the NRA did a settlement, I hope it wasn't for much because nothing happened," Cain said.

Pressed for details, Cain said he understood it was the NRA's policy not to comment further on the matter. And he said he would not "chase anonymous sources" referenced in the story.

In an earlier appearance on Fox News, Cain was asked if there were any other harassment charges in his past. Cain responded no, and then added, "The only other allegations will be trumped-up allegations."

Assessing the impact on his campaign, Cain said, "Obviously, some people are going to be turned off by the cloud some people want to put over this campaign."

At one point in his Press Club remarks, Cain referred to the harassment allegations as a "witch hunt."

The timing and anonymity of the Politico story evoked howls of criticism from conservative commentators, as well as intimations of racism.

Calling it a "late hit," radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham, a former attorney, said, "Give me five minutes [with the accusers] and five questions, along with their work records, and we would get the truth."

Recalling the sexual allegations made against Clarence Thomas amid his Supreme Court confirmation, columnist Ann Coulter called the allegations against Cain a "high-tech lynching."

Rush Limbaugh declared, "This [Politico] story is a joke that can only be appreciated by Bill Clinton and other sexual predators." Limbaugh called the Cain story "a close cousin to the hit job the Washington Post is doing on [Florida Sen.] Marco Rubio. It's the politics of minority conservative personal destruction."

Meantime, mainstream media pundits played up the Cain story.

Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Alter -- evidently oblivious to the ongoing Solyndra and Fast and Furious investigations -- asserted that there have been "no scandals" surrounding Barack Obama.

They mentioned the Marco Rubio hit piece, but there was a pretty nasty one recently in the NYT on Congressman Issa, not to mention the McCain "having an affair" hit piece that they ran back before the last election.

Oh, don't forget the "Perry is a racist" hit piece.

What do they all have in common?  Liberal media, Republicans, and many unsourced anonymous sources, that never see the light of day.

"Responsible journalism" -  If you are a liberal, or a Democrat.

Otherwise, not so much.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Here's another:

Herman Cain Tells Press Club: 'I Never Sexually Harassed Anyone'
By: Kenric Ward | Posted: October 31, 2011 2:33 PM

Acknowledging that "the bull's-eye on my back has gotten bigger," GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain on Monday denied that he had engaged in sexual harassment when he headed the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s.

But Cain confirmed that he had been "accused," and branded the allegations reported in a Politico story over the weekend "totally baseless and totally false."

"In my over 40 years of running businesses and corporations, I have never sexually harassed anyone," he told an audience at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

"I was accused -- falsely, I might add. When the charges were brought, I recused myself, and allowed my general counsel and human-resources officer to deal with the matter.

"After a thorough investigation, it was determined there was no basis for the complaints," Cain related.

According to the Politico report, Cain allegedly "offended" two female staffers during his tenure at the NRA. The story indicated that "innuendo" and personal remarks of a "sexual, suggestive nature" were made by Cain at NRA events and offices.

Without naming any names, Politico quoted individuals who "witnessed physical gestures that were not overtly sexual."

Politico said a cash settlement was made to two women, who had reportedly signed an agreement to stay quiet about the matter.

The Georgia businessman said he was "not aware of a settlement."

"If the NRA did a settlement, I hope it wasn't for much because nothing happened," Cain said.

Pressed for details, Cain said he understood it was the NRA's policy not to comment further on the matter. And he said he would not "chase anonymous sources" referenced in the story.

In an earlier appearance on Fox News, Cain was asked if there were any other harassment charges in his past. Cain responded no, and then added, "The only other allegations will be trumped-up allegations."

Assessing the impact on his campaign, Cain said, "Obviously, some people are going to be turned off by the cloud some people want to put over this campaign."

At one point in his Press Club remarks, Cain referred to the harassment allegations as a "witch hunt."

The timing and anonymity of the Politico story evoked howls of criticism from conservative commentators, as well as intimations of racism.

Calling it a "late hit," radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham, a former attorney, said, "Give me five minutes [with the accusers] and five questions, along with their work records, and we would get the truth."

Recalling the sexual allegations made against Clarence Thomas amid his Supreme Court confirmation, columnist Ann Coulter called the allegations against Cain a "high-tech lynching."

Rush Limbaugh declared, "This [Politico] story is a joke that can only be appreciated by Bill Clinton and other sexual predators." Limbaugh called the Cain story "a close cousin to the hit job the Washington Post is doing on [Florida Sen.] Marco Rubio. It's the politics of minority conservative personal destruction."

Meantime, mainstream media pundits played up the Cain story.

Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Alter -- evidently oblivious to the ongoing Solyndra and Fast and Furious investigations -- asserted that there have been "no scandals" surrounding Barack Obama.

They mentioned the Marco Rubio hit piece, but there was a pretty nasty one recently in the NYT on Congressman Issa, not to mention the McCain "having an affair" hit piece that they ran back before the last election.

Oh, don't forget the "Perry is a racist" hit piece.

What do they all have in common?  Liberal media, Republicans, and many unsourced anonymous sources, that never see the light of day.

"Responsible journalism" -  If you are a liberal, or a Democrat.

Otherwise, not so much.

Firm

Weird.  The story sounds odd - why would Cain be discussing height with hand gestures and comparing women's heights to his wife's?  That's exactly a sexual harassment case waiting to happen if anything gets misinterpreted, which of course it did.  Assuming that Cain's telling the truth.

I don't think of Politico as biased.  So I have to allow that if witnesses claim that there was nothing sexual, it's likely that's the truth.  Stupid thing for him to do, though.

And I resent like hell Ingraham and Limbaugh jumping aboard with hysteria rather than facts.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Weird.  The story sounds odd - why would Cain be discussing height with hand gestures and comparing women's heights to his wife's?  That's exactly a sexual harassment case waiting to happen if anything gets misinterpreted, which of course it did.  Assuming that Cain's telling the truth.

I don't think of Politico as biased.  So I have to allow that if witnesses claim that there was nothing sexual, it's likely that's the truth.  Stupid thing for him to do, though.

And I resent like hell Ingraham and Limbaugh jumping aboard with hysteria rather than facts.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

... asswipe.

Ya wanna go down that path, my friend?

Firm

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

... asswipe.

Ya wanna go down that path, my friend?

Sure, why not....Gary Hart ....the friends on the right thought that this sort of thing was on topic and not a reason to be president.

How about Michael Dukakis? A Joe the plumber scenario was the end of him, it seemed to be on topic then.

Again, don't seem to see a derail, unless you have been doing this sort of crying years and years, and boy; don't see how I would have missed that one.....

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

... asswipe.

Ya wanna go down that path, my friend?

Sure, why not....Gary Hart ....the friends on the right thought that this sort of thing was on topic and not a reason to be president.

How about Michael Dukakis? A Joe the plumber scenario was the end of him, it seemed to be on topic then.

Again, don't seem to see a derail, unless you have been doing this sort of crying years and years, and boy; don't see how I would have missed that one.....

ahh, now, talking about Hart et al, where accusations - whether true or not - had a political impact on a candidate are indeed fair game for discussion, IMO.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

People often settle claims just to make them go away. The reason may or may not be that there is something to the claim, but win, lose , or draw, fighting accusations like these is emotionally exhausting, embarrassing and expensive. Sometimes people decide just to write a check to make it go away. That is not exactly writing a check for "no reason".

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

If there's no merit to the claims, where was there a financial settlement?

Do YOU usually write people a check for no reason?

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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He breathed audibly, glared at the reporter and stayed silent for several seconds. After the question was repeated three times, he responded by asking the reporter, “Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment?”

Cain is becoming unglued, as evidence of sexual harassment comes to light...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ahhhhh, and hermie is of no consequence politically (which I have repeatedly stated), now I see how that would be off topic in your mind....

Why kick the shit out of a loser? Do I got it right now?

Like scales have fallen from my eyes........

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

That would be an acceptable argument for one incident.

When it is more than one it is not.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Now, back to Cain.

Why is he back peddling so much?

First he didnt know anything about it.

Then he remembers, vaguely.

Then he recalls the first incident.. but states he doesnt remember the second.

The states both were settled, but he is innocent of any wrong doing.

The man is wishy washy to say the least.

Actually, I have to amend that... first He denied there were any sexual allegations against him.

Then he denied knowing anything about them.

Then he remembers, vaguely.

Then he recalls the first incident.. but states he doesnt remember the second.

Then states both were settled, but he is innocent of any wrong doing.

Flip-flop flip-flop flip-flop