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tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:47:24 PM)

Im asking questions. You know, trying to figure out the facts.... something you may want to do yourself instead of blindly believing in anyone... other than Treasure.




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:49:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Nope, in this case, both I and Sanity are pointing out a fact:  when a black man or women goes off the liberal plantation, they are called "Uncle Tom's", "Oreos", "not real blacks" or ... especially if they are strong black males ... given the "high tech lynching" treatment, which involves attempting to tap into the "black men raping white women" meme from earlier in our history.


Have you ever ... once... saw me post anything remotely like that?????

I don't read every one of your post, but you are participating in doing the exact "high tech lynching" that was started in a hit piece.

Therefore, if you aren't a willing participate, you are being duped and manipulated by the technique.

Firm



And you still didnt answerthe question.

Have you ever... even once... seen any post I made.. by me... portraying any black man in the manner you suggested.. anywhere?

Its a simple enough question.




Sanity -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:49:51 PM)


Youre saying he is guilty as charged, now bring on the evidence. You demand he answer the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?"

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

He was tweeting cock shots to his whole tweet following... which included a minor. There was nothing wrong in my demanding he should go.




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:51:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Youre basically saying he is guilty as charged, now bring on the evidence. You demand he tell answer the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?"

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

He was tweeting cock shots to his whole tweet following... which included a minor. There was nothing wrong in my demanding he should go.



No, he was guilty when the pictures were sent out to his tweet account. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that minors do follow politics. Or are you still under the misconception that only those of voting age are interested in politics and only those of that age group have twitter accounts?




Sanity -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:54:38 PM)


I am referring to Cain




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 3:56:17 PM)

What you quoted from me was about Weiner.




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:00:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

One gives a detailed description of the settlement... the other says he was not aware of a settlement.

Which is it?

Keep parsing them words, tazzy.

I'm sure you'll have him convicted of rape in no time.

After all - he is a black man, yanno. [8|]

Firm



You owe me an apology for this, Firm.

Never have I used race against anyone, poster or politician.

For you to accuse me of such is horrible... and quite frankly... something I never thought you would stoop too.




slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:21:59 PM)

So the posts following your assertion that you were just being hyperbolic were what?
more hyperbole ?
Seems like a trend to me,as a matter of fact it almost seems as if you hold liberals and Democrats in the same low regard as sanity does.
It is no more true when you do it,in a slightly less confrontational manner to be sure,that when sanity does it.
Final analyisis ....same biased bullshit,wherein one side ascribes less than salurtory motives to the other.Seen this picture before [:-]




slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:24:19 PM)

Having issues keeping(it) up sanity ?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:29:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

One gives a detailed description of the settlement... the other says he was not aware of a settlement.

Which is it?

Keep parsing them words, tazzy.

I'm sure you'll have him convicted of rape in no time.

After all - he is a black man, yanno. [8|]


You owe me an apology for this, Firm.

Never have I used race against anyone, poster or politician.

For you to accuse me of such is horrible... and quite frankly... something I never thought you would stoop too.

In response to this, and your other posts ...

I will say again ... you are participating in a "high tech lynching" of a black man, because he is black.  Did you start it?  No.  But you are doing exactly what the article was intended to do. You are playing out the second half of the technique.

No apology is due from me for pointing out the fact.  If you are offended, might I suggest that your offense should be better directed at the people and groups which entrapped you into such a position, if it was an unwilling entrapment?

Your claim "I'm not saying he's guilt." claim is, quite frankly, disingenuous on it's face. 

Techniques such as "Damning with faint praise" and "I was just asking a question!" in order to stir up FUD are common.  Your position through out this thread has been "how could he not know?", "why is he backpedaling", "why is he changing his story?", all in an attempt to portray him in a bad light, and yourself as an "honest broker, looking for Truth".

You just pulled a similar ploy by being willfully obtuse with Sanity, when he pointed the same thing out to you.

In fact, you are a stirrer of shit in this little escapade, and then have the temerity to demand an apology, when I call you on you on it?!

And then attempt to "get my goat" my referencing my wife, and our relationship in an attempt to belittle?

Nah uh.  Sister, you are the one who owes me an apology. 

You are caught.  Give it up.

Firm




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:34:00 PM)

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I will say again ... you are participating in a "high tech lynching" of a black man, because he is black.


So you are saying I wouldnt be asking these types of questions if he was white? Latino? Hispanic? Really????

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No apology is due from me for pointing out the fact. If you are offended, might I suggest that your offense should be better directed at the people and groups which entrapped you into such a position, if it was an unwilling entrapment?


My offence is directed specifically as you, which is where it should be. Yet again, you are accusing me, directly, of being racist. It would have been one thing had you said....

after all, most liberals would hang him because he was a black man....

And I would be hard put to argue with you. But you didnt. You accused me of going after him solely because he was black... without any indication from me that is the case... or any indication from me in the past in any post that I have done so before.

Yes, you do owe me an apology. You didnt call liberals racists.... you called me one.




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:35:35 PM)

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And then attempt to "get my goat" my referencing my wife, and our relationship in an attempt to belittle?


Whoa.. hold on a moment. There was no belittlement... thats bullshit and you know it. The only one you shouldnt question is Treasure... the rest I would expect you too... and that is what I posted. if you misread that, its on you.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:40:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

So the posts following your assertion that you were just being hyperbolic were what?
more hyperbole ?
Seems like a trend to me,as a matter of fact it almost seems as if you hold liberals and Democrats in the same low regard as sanity does.
It is no more true when you do it,in a slightly less confrontational manner to be sure,that when sanity does it.
Final analyisis ....same biased bullshit,wherein one side ascribes less than salurtory motives to the other.Seen this picture before [:-]

The hyperbole was that in all cases the two "rules" were always true.  They are mostly true in our political and media environment.  The hyperbole was to make a point.

That's why I sometimes appear such a curmudgeon.  Because I want to know the facts as much as possible before I condemn.

In general, I hold most people in "low regard", regardless of political orientation. [8D][:)]

The ones who jump to conclusions based on purely ideological grounds are the ones that I have some of the lowest regard for.  Sometimes that's on the right.  More often, I've seen it on the left. I've never pretended otherwise.

People who I disagree with - but can hold an honest discussion about our differences - are the ones I hold in high regard.

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:46:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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I will say again ... you are participating in a "high tech lynching" of a black man, because he is black.


So you are saying I wouldnt be asking these types of questions if he was white? Latino? Hispanic? Really????

quote:

No apology is due from me for pointing out the fact. If you are offended, might I suggest that your offense should be better directed at the people and groups which entrapped you into such a position, if it was an unwilling entrapment?


My offence is directed specifically as you, which is where it should be. Yet again, you are accusing me, directly, of being racist. It would have been one thing had you said....

after all, most liberals would hang him because he was a black man....

And I would be hard put to argue with you. But you didnt. You accused me of going after him solely because he was black... without any indication from me that is the case... or any indication from me in the past in any post that I have done so before.

Yes, you do owe me an apology. You didnt call liberals racists.... you called me one.

I hold out the hope that you simply are so caught up that you are missing the implicit and explicit meanings in much of what's been said, rather than being intentionally obtuse.

So ... why not give it a rest, and read all of this tomorrow, with a fresh perspective?

Firm




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:48:47 PM)

I see the perspective.. and I see you playing the race card, as others see you doing.

I see you accusing me of being a racist, and of going after Cain simply because he is black.

I see you accusing me of using Treasure against you when I did no such thing.

I see you belittling me, berating me, for things I have not done today, or any time in the past.

I see you refusing to accept you were wrong.

My perspective wont change tomorrow.




slvemike4u -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:48:56 PM)

My"regard" is generally lessened for those who make sweeping generalizations .Irrespective of party affiliation...that is one reason,surely not the only,why I have so much contempt for sanity.
My appraisal that you were not prone to this was one reason,certainly not the only ,that I held you in high regard.This thread and the theme you have hammered here is shaking that assumption.




farglebargle -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:49:13 PM)

The MOMENT Cain referred this to Counsel and HR a paper trail began.

Just like Obama's Birth Certificate, Cain can end all this speculation immediately by just releasing those files.

WHY WON'T CAIN RELEASE THE FILES???




kalikshama -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:53:52 PM)

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tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:56:28 PM)

Keep your apology, Firm.

You lost my respect.

Not that it matters much to you.




tazzygirl -> RE: Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman? (10/31/2011 4:58:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

The MOMENT Cain referred this to Counsel and HR a paper trail began.

Just like Obama's Birth Certificate, Cain can end all this speculation immediately by just releasing those files.

WHY WON'T CAIN RELEASE THE FILES???


The organization gives its reason as one of confidentiality protocol. It could be that the agreements also included the organization not saying anything as well.




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