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Biases on collarme?


Posters tend to be more sympathetic to women
  24% (24)
Posters tend to be more sympathetic to men
  0% (0)
Posters tend to be more sympathetic to subs/bottoms
  9% (9)
Posters tend to be more sympathetic to Dominants/Masters
  8% (8)
Posters tend to be more sympathetic to slaves
  3% (3)
There tends to be an anti D/s bias here.
  3% (3)
There tends to be an anti M/s bias here.
  7% (7)
Posters tend to take women more seriously.
  9% (9)
Posters tend to take men more seriously.
  2% (2)
Other
  34% (34)


Total Votes : 99


(last vote on : 10/8/2012 7:10:16 PM)
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Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 5:21:15 PM   
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I'm curious whether forum members think there are any of the following trends here. (multiple selection allowed)

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 5:37:27 PM   
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There's a very strong anti-sex bias on CM.
Those who are sexually motivated in their BDSM are regularly belittled as "just a bottom".

Any attempt to actually discuss sex or relate things of a sexual nature are shouted down very quickly.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 5:39:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzeQ
There's a very strong anti-sex bias on CM.
Those who are sexually motivated in their BDSM are regularly belittled as "just a bottom".



I agree. i almost put anti-casual play bias as an option, but i decided against it. I feel like THAT bias, like the anti-male sub bias, is really too obvious to be worth voting about.

pam

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 5:42:06 PM   
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maybe you should add it anyway, just so that it's reflected. it is pretty obvious though. =p 

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 5:43:31 PM   
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I didn't mean just casual play, I meant those who's motivation is openly sexual, who admit they do D/s because it turns them on. Its OK to say you spank or whip because it turns you on, but its not really OK to say you obey or want to be obeyed because it turns you on.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:01:18 PM   
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Are you just talking about the options in your poll Pam, or in general ?

Regards the ones listed, it is noticeable how many men dont seem to take Dommes seriously. Dom men it is sadly understandable, but I am unsure why men regard themselves as submissive then talk down to Dommes. It is like kicking your target audience.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:01:26 PM   
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Anti-talking-about-sex? Absolutely. (Though it was nice to see a few different types of threads, lately.)

Anti-bottom? Hmm. Funny...I don't get that feeling at all.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:10:53 PM   
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I haven't voted and for a very specfic reason. This is an open forum that seeks people's opinions. In other words, the opinion and thoughts and feelings of the individual.

To my mind, by it very nature, an individual's opinion is biased. Of course they are. My opinions are biased based on who I am. This is life, and people, and the nature of asking people to discuss on an open forum.

If people were not biased per there own individuality, I'd think something was wrong. So sure, some are sympathetic to something that some others are not. Alrighty then.

It's all life in this global sphere we call Earth.

We are not *supposed* to all agree. We are *supposed* to attempt to get along even though we don't all agree. There is room for everyone here. So move the fuck over, I need a seat !!


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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:15:39 PM   
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"Shoves along and pats seat"

Will passengers please fasten their seatbelts as the chat forums can be a bit rocky.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:18:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzeQ

Its OK to say you spank or whip because it turns you on, but its not really OK to say you obey or want to be obeyed because it turns you on.



Wait... it's not? Hell, I am on the wrong site then.

A woman jumping to obey a command is definitely a turn on for me. And no, I really don't care if anyone has a problem with it, or if it is not "politically" correct. It is something my body reacts to as well as my brain. My body refuses to have political affiliations, social correctness, or sometimes tact. That is the point of kink. It's kinky!

And if anyone wants to not be my friend over my personal sexual preference of being obeyed by a willing submissive woman: "Ouch, my feelings are sooOOOoooo hurt! I'll just take my two gals and go home then."

(Wow, that hit more of a nerve than I thought before I started typing the response. Thanks for letting me know I have a new topic to be grumpy about, Suze. )

Edit: ChatteParfaitt: great post, and I absolutely agree! While I strive to be non-biased in certain aspects of my life, I do have biases and I have my reasons for them. Well, I at least have reasons for the ones I know about!

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:20:19 PM   
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<Smiles at Politesub and shimmies my cute lil butt in next to him, then fastens the belt.>

Alrighty !!

I is ready for the rocky ride !!




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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:23:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

<Smiles at Politesub and shimmies my cute lil butt in next to him, then fastens the belt.>

Alrighty !!

I is ready for the rocky ride !!





I would think if YOU fastened the belt, then I would be the one in for the rocky ride.



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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:23:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrazyCats


quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzeQ

Its OK to say you spank or whip because it turns you on, but its not really OK to say you obey or want to be obeyed because it turns you on.



Wait... it's not? Hell, I am on the wrong site then.

A woman jumping to obey a command is definitely a turn on for me. And no, I really don't care if anyone has a problem with it, or if it is not "politically" correct. It is something my body reacts to as well as my brain. My body refuses to have political affiliations, social correctness, or sometimes tact. That is the point of kink. It's kinky!

And if anyone wants to not be my friend over my personal sexual preference of being obeyed by a willing submissive woman: "Ouch, my feelings are sooOOOoooo hurt! I'll just take my two gals and go home then."

(Wow, that hit more of a nerve than I thought before I started typing the response. Thanks for letting me know I have a new topic to be grumpy about, Suze. )


And actually, as I recall, a bunch of people jumped all over Taken-In-Hand because they felt that those who say they are TIH aren't admitting to the sexual turn-on that it all is. So at least some of us over here must be open to the "Damn, but this feels good" aspect if there was condemnation of those that aren't.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:26:00 PM   
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<big smile>

You would be thinking correctly, Polite.


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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:26:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
maybe you should add it anyway, just so that it's reflected. it is pretty obvious though. =p 


i think i'm not going to add it because:

1. Options 1-10 have been filled, people have already voted, and it would mess up the count to change it now.

AND

2. It wasn't really where i was going with this poll anyway.

What i was really trying to figure out was whether there's a tendency to agree with what a poster says simply because of their gender or orientation. What happened was, there was another thread, and this female slave asked a question. The question was more or less along the lines of: if your Master tells you to one thing, and your conscience tells you not to, who do you listen to, your conscience or your Master?

I had a hard time answering that question, but in the end i said, do what your conscience says. Upon reading the various responses, i began to feel that, people might have answered differently if a male had asked the same question, or if the Master had been the one asking about whether his own actions were appropriate- whether he would have gotten different advice than this slave got. It made me wonder whether there is a double standard in how forum members respond to people of different genders, or different orientations. Is the advice that people give consistent across the board, or do we tend to sympathise with one gender or orientation more than another?

So, you see, i'm not really asking about biases per se, but whether there's any double standard in the advice that's offered.

The casual play/prudery question is a good one, but i think it should be a different thread. i will wait a while, to see if anyone else wants to run with it. If not, i may start another poll addressing that issue.

pam

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:27:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

And actually, as I recall, a bunch of people jumped all over Taken-In-Hand because they felt that those who say they are TIH aren't admitting to the sexual turn-on that it all is. So at least some of us over here must be open to the "Damn, but this feels good" aspect if there was condemnation of those that aren't.



Hmm... Not a term I had encountered. "Taken-In-Hand"? Mind educating me on the subject?

Thanks in advance, since I am departing for the evening.


pam: My apologies for the disruption of your original question. My answer is to the OP simply, "I don't know." I don't really pay that much attention to the advice parts of the forum. Perhaps I should.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:27:52 PM   
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I'm not voting yet. Even tbhough I've been on CM for six years, my participation is nt across all forums, and I think things have changed over the years because forums are made up of the people who post on them.

This feels like a "bash CM" thread.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:28:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

<big smile>

You would be thinking correctly, Polite.



LOL, I may be sarcastic and even a tad irreverent, but I know whats what, if nothing else.

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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:32:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


This feels like a "bash CM" thread.


I suppose it could be, and perhaps I'm doe-eyed, but...I really don't feel that there are many biases around here. I don't even get the male sub bias, though - not being a male sub, perhaps it's eluding me.

So, for me, it's a "Hey, it's not like that at all"' kind of thread.


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RE: Biases on collarme? - 11/11/2011 6:38:02 PM   
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For me, It isnt so much the bias between gender/orientations ect that gets me. It is the bias against what different folks have as kinks.

If we cant be tolerant of each others kinks on here of all places, we might as well go home (figure of speech as I`m sat at home typing)

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