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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 3:26:23 PM   
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oooo can I join or is it necessary to be a D-type?

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 3:29:51 PM   
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Actually he has changed the journal. Fornica... you are now a very bad name and I finally made the list!

(No terry, I wasn't looking at your profile... I was reading journals and there you were. lol)




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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 4:01:26 PM   
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GASP!
*clutches muh pearls*

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 6:30:41 PM   
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Well, really, enslavement is something that we feel we need and are. WHY did you "sign up" for this- because he was interested and you are afraid to lose him? It IS difficult for anyone as we have socialization to overcome and reactions based on that socialization. However, those of us who identify oriented as slaves or subs get a high with submission that is difficult to explain. A deep satisfaction, sexual arousal for many if not most. If you did it because you felt pressured, then this probably isn't for you. Enslavement is like an extended form of bondage. If you hate bondage, enslavement may be far more difficult for you than for someone who love long term bondage like me.

To start with-being a submissive is not the same as being a slave. A submissive doesn't give up rights or do a TPE-total power exchange. The do a PE-power exchange that is not total and can be limited to time frame or type. They can have more limits. A slave-agrees to give up all rights normally associated with inalienable rights, (except life, limb,health, no arrest) and the INTENT though rarely actually achieved is TPE. Check out the Internal Enslavement website for more detailed information. The slave accepts the loss of all rights, but often those rights are experienced as revocable privileges. The Owner may prefer NOT to remove all rights, but allows the slave much autonomy, but revocable at anytime, often as a punishment.

Limits- most start with limits of some kind. If you want a PM i can tell you the history of limits and why they got started etc. Most Masters are savvy enough to know that the enslavement process works both ways (like it or not) and though they are in command, if they fail to make it worthwhile for the slave in which ever way they are, the slave will eventually walk out. Abuse is non-consensual. There is also CNC. consensual non-consent, when you agree in advance to an array of things. Most masters again know not to push too fast or hard as they must be smart enough to sense where the slave is at and be able to know when things need to slow down or the slave needs time or a positive experience. In return, the slave must do their best to improve upon their submission. IT IS A PROCESS NOT AN EVENT.

Masters/Mistresses/Dom/mes have different ways of achieving obedience and training their slaves/subs. Some Begin with micromanagement, intensive training with a loosening over time as the slave becomes attuned to what is expected. It is like boot camp. The other more common way is by slow increments. Both the master and the slave working together for the common goal of TPE allowing the mind of the slave to wrap around each level of restriction, adjust and then add another. This seems to be over all the most likely method to keep a long term relationship going.

Masochism is not a learned thing. There is masochism and masochistic behavior. i am a masochist, i get aroused, VERY aroused with pain. i am a single tail poster child, hot wax, pinwheels, clamps, irritants, even tattoos in a delayed way. Masochistic behavior is when a person accepts pain for punishment or to please a sadist. It does not arouse, not even a delayed arousal. It CAN satisfy a need to submit- not the same as masochism, but can be just as good. There is also subspace. That is when the endorphins cut loose in the slave, whether or not they are a masochist and is a wonderful experience and usually makes the experience of pain worth going through, even if not a masochist. i am fortunate to get both experiences.

If you find you can't do it, then you can't. There is no shame in not being a slave. Actually most BDSM people seem to find slavehood less than desirable, though tolerated more and gaining some respect. Many M/s relationships do not involve S&M either. You don't know until you try, but very few people are slaves and many would never do it in any case. You have to be true to who you are and if you are a slave, you will eventually find you liberation in it as i did. If you are not Born This Way, then you will discover that too and move on. Either way, it is not your fault. You are a slave or you aren't. You can't fake it.

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 6:39:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: yourMasterTerry

Well I see that I was wrong to make my last post, I am going back on my word to not post anymore, I am sure that a few of you will want to beat me up about it, and so be it.

In my journal entry dated November 18, I said, “how easy it is to piss off some of you bitches”. Now this means that not all but a few are easily pissed off and while reviewing this journal entry I realized that I mistakenly included all the female poster’s in the “bitches” category, and I must apologize to the ladies that made posts (just so you know when I use the word “lady” I mean that she is a polite dignified woman). I AM SORRY!

I also want to apologize to and offer a thank you to; Littlewonder, Lelloy, LadyHibiscus, Tolovetolaugh, LafayetteLady, poise, Osidegirl – Deranged, Alecta, Anniezz338, Fragilepieces, Agirl, Winspiritsbaby, And Baroana, all of you were trying to be helpful to my wife/slave by giving her things to think about.

I also want to apologize to and offer a thank you to; Stellauk, Tazzygirl, Xssve, and angelikaJ for actually trying to answer the questions that my wife/slave have.

I also want to apologize to and offer a thank you and to tell you how much I appreciate what you have said and have done by offering a hand in friendship to my wife/slave; Winspiritsbaby, SassyBird, Subsfaith.

If you have not figured it out by now, I was a little pissed off when I only thanked the men that made helpful comments and suggestions, because, 5 women were just being a @#$%&, and one special person that started with name calling I have left for last, I and others surely agree with your description of yourself as indecent



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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 6:45:37 PM   
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And as a break to all the laughter and such, enter the person who couldn't read anything but the OP. Hence a post where they have no clue what has gone on for the last six pages.

Have no worries though ladies, I'm sure this person has moved on to check the archives and is, as we speak, posting comments to the oldest thread she can find in the hopes of being "helpful."

Ok, I know I was one of those he "thanked" for being so helpful, but I want to be part of Bitch Fest 2011. I'm pretty sure I qualify, lol.

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 6:56:46 PM   
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Thank you Terry, but you didnt have to apoligize to me.

I read back over the thread, and something about you saying how this is a 14 year marriage, and that you and she have been working on the M/s relationship for 6 years on and off... I think I got that part right. Please, correct me if I am wrong.

This is a woman who loves you, enough to go against her own nature to be what you desire her to be... and she still continues to struggle with that decision.

Does it work inside the bedroom but not outside of it? Maybe there is the problem.

Is it absolutely essential that she be a slave outside of the bedroom? Only you can answer that. I believe your relationship with her can be one of your own making.

Bedroom slave/household sub

Slave in and out of the bedroom

Slave in the bedroom, vanilla outside

Bedroom slave/house submissive/vanilla outside of the house.

This relationship is yours.... both you and her... to define as you need it to fit into your lives. You can also look at this as a starting point... bedroom slave.. something else out of it... to see if she can settle into that role.

Its a good possibility it will never be anything more. Do you want the slave more? Or the wife? Again, only something you can answer.

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 6:59:31 PM   
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I love love love when that happens .It cracks me the hell up.
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

And as a break to all the laughter and such, enter the person who couldn't read anything but the OP. Hence a post where they have no clue what has gone on for the last six pages.

Have no worries though ladies, I'm sure this person has moved on to check the archives and is, as we speak, posting comments to the oldest thread she can find in the hopes of being "helpful."

Ok, I know I was one of those he "thanked" for being so helpful, but I want to be part of Bitch Fest 2011. I'm pretty sure I qualify, lol.



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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/20/2011 8:03:40 PM   
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Makes me question their reading comprehension and conversational skills, but hey, that's probably because I really am a bitch!

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 3:58:11 AM   
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Aren't you the sweetest thing?

You got your post pulled so you came back and did a long string of thank yous and such (since now you were aware the mods don't like name calling and could actually DOMINATE you) in an attempt to suck up.

That is so very, very special.

I am so in awe of you, yMT, I shall have to tell my own dominant that he's just not doing it right. You see, I love and adore him, there is nothing I would not do for him, and he knows it. Not only do I obey his every command, I look for ways to please him and make his life easier, I love it when he lets me do even more for him.

We have such a close bond, both of us know no thing and no person could ever come between us.

And yes, he's quite aware of my bitchy side. He loves that too, enough so that I have my own male sub. The three of us are very good friends.

Now, are you seeing *any* differences between my relationship and yours? Big hint here: mine is consensual, which means my obedience has been inspired, not forced.

BTW: Have you backed away from your wife yet and made her an appt with a good therapist?

(B/c we all know she is too beaten down to leave you, but if she got help, she might learn what a user (loser) you are.)




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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 4:04:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
Also, who is Terry? Does he have a profile out here?

I would guess that he and the OP are identical.

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 4:19:58 AM   
ChatteParfaitt


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Fornica, you are cracking me up, girl !!

Can I be in the bitch brigade?

Please, please?

I can wear pearls and be bitchy ! I can ! I can! I even haz a cunt !!!!


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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 4:26:19 AM   
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Chatte, you got an honourable mention by the BitchHunter himself, so that´s you in the club. Welcome.

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 4:39:03 AM   
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OMG thank you ! Thank you !

Flounces off to clean the pearls and prepare my acceptance speech !!


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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 5:42:47 AM   
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why do you need to clean the pearls, Chatte?? Hmmmmm?? what have you been doing with them??

*ducks n runs*

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 5:44:34 AM   
ChatteParfaitt


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OMG !! You think I'm *that* kinda girl ????

Well okay, well yes, I am. But I'm part of the Bitch Brigade now, so it's okay.




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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 6:22:18 AM   
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Yeah baby. You can be my co-president. We can run around freeing repressed women! Let's turn them all gay, or at least bi.
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Fornica, you are cracking me up, girl !!

Can I be in the bitch brigade?

Please, please?

I can wear pearls and be bitchy ! I can ! I can! I even haz a cunt !!!!




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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 6:28:47 AM   
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AS founder and Queen Bitch, I say, bring it on, Bitches!!

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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 6:44:26 AM   
ChatteParfaitt


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And the lesbians. Bring on the lesbians !!

BTW: If this doesn't make sense, see yMT's journal entries. What a hoot!

It's sad to realize there are people who (might) take him *seriously* !!

And *Terry* is the one perving my profile. I feel so.....so defiled LOL !!!

BTW: Best to the OP, I hope this thread has opened your eyes a bit. Will your uber Master let you post a reply so we can get an update?


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RE: Slave, Help me - 11/21/2011 7:02:26 AM   
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I don't think he realizes that the title under our names if usually an automatic thing from the system. Because I notice he went out of his way to say "Osidegirl - Deranged"

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