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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 9:56:25 AM   
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Teen pregnancy is typically considered high risk anyway and she should have had some discussions with her manager about it.


Not to mention that she could have sent her daughter in an ambulance and then called in to say she was on her way to the hospital and wouldn't be in that day.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:04:35 AM   
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Teen pregnancy is typically considered high risk anyway and she should have had some discussions with her manager about it.


Not to mention that she could have sent her daughter in an ambulance and then called in to say she was on her way to the hospital and wouldn't be in that day.


Shit, who doesn't have a basic cell phone these days? She could have called before leaving home, on the way there, or when she got to the hospital, because we ALL know once in the emergency room, there was a significant time of her sitting, waiting and doing nothing since it isn't HER who is pregnant.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:06:30 AM   
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Teen pregnancy is typically considered high risk anyway and she should have had some discussions with her manager about it.


Not to mention that she could have sent her daughter in an ambulance and then called in to say she was on her way to the hospital and wouldn't be in that day.


Shit, who doesn't have a basic cell phone these days? She could have called before leaving home, on the way there, or when she got to the hospital, because we ALL know once in the emergency room, there was a significant time of her sitting, waiting and doing nothing since it isn't HER who is pregnant.


Exactly! I'm just not buying that there was no point when she couldn't have called.


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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:14:27 AM   
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Look, you have stated enough times you worked in retail for so many years.

I never stated I worked in retail for years. You must have me confused with someone else. I worked in call centers for years. Then I switched to home health aid.

Yea, the schedule is posted and if it isn't, then it IS on YOU to ask to see it.

Kinda hard to do if the boss is gone and his office is locked. He didn't give his personal number out to employees. This actually happened at one retail job I had years ago. I used it as an example of bosses not always being perfect the way everyone seems to think they are.

You really do cry the blues a little too much. It seems you really don't have a great deal of understanding for how the world works or about personal responsibility.


I understand the way the world works. The customer is always right, the boss is always right, and the employee is almost always blamed. That doesn't mean that's the way the world should work. People cry the blues on these forums every day about all kinds of issues.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:21:35 AM   
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Kinda hard to do if the boss is gone and his office is locked. He didn't give his personal number out to employees.


So the boss is never there and there is never a chance to check with him? Nope doesn't fly with me. Since the notice was given a month in advance there had to be a time somewhere close to the date when you could have checked.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:24:02 AM   
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Not the same job. This actually took place at a grocery store I worked at years ago (my first job). The boss wasn't always there during the hours I worked. Also, I wasn't always the only employee this happened to. I only mentioned because I'm trying to make a point that the boss is not always right.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:29:09 AM   
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Regardless, the onus is on the employee to ensure that they aren't on the schedule. That you are saying the boss is gone and the office locked doesn't fly. Surely there was a time when the boss was there and the employee could have verified not being on the schedule.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:35:15 AM   
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Look, you have stated enough times you worked in retail for so many years.

I never stated I worked in retail for years. You must have me confused with someone else. I worked in call centers for years. Then I switched to home health aid.




You are right, I confused you with someone else. My bad. So you had a fixed schedule, and feel that you don't need to remind your boss of something. Gee, if you are a home health aid and you give one measely little shit about your patient, you would want to make sure someone was going to show up while you are dancing the night away at a wedding.

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Yea, the schedule is posted and if it isn't, then it IS on YOU to ask to see it.

Kinda hard to do if the boss is gone and his office is locked. He didn't give his personal number out to employees.


Yes, your boss is gone all day every day, has no voice mail at his office and there are no other supervisors who are covering issues that come up. That's believable.

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You really do cry the blues a little too much. It seems you really don't have a great deal of understanding for how the world works or about personal responsibility.


I understand the way the world works. The customer is always right, the boss is always right, and the employee is almost always blamed. That doesn't mean that's the way the world should work. People cry the blues on these forums every day about all kinds of issues.




Well, let's see, you complained because your job couldn't be held open while you recovered from surgery. As a home health aid, someone has to care for your patients in your absence, and from what you have said, you could never really give them a date of return because:

The pathologists, lab, doctors all messed up your tests (although even by your own explanations, everyone told you it was more that you didn't understand what they were saying) and so you needed more than one surgery. You completely disregard the reality that it was YOUR PERSONAL ISSUE that you didn't want to see the appropriate doctor and therefore took a (poorly) calculated risk by having the wrong doctor do the surgery and then complaining about the results.

Now you are out of work and out of insurance because you hurried up and married your husband who works part time and is a student (aren't you in your mid to late 30s?) but failed to actually find out if you would be covered under his insurance, but it is the state's fault because you didn't do this and they are cancelling your insurance.

Let's not forget you started complaining about this problem over a year ago and it was your own decision to not seek proper treatment at that time, instead choosing to come here and ask all of us what you should do, which we all said, go to the doctor.

Then you cried the blues because it is your first Christmas together and you can't afford to buy any big ticket items to make it "special." Everyone here gave you tons of suggestions on how to make it special without money, and how the fact that you are not dying (although you cried the blues about that as well, sure you were going to, based on internet research of your symptoms) should be gift enough. All to no avail because to be "special" you need to spend money you don't have.

You also whined about the fact that (even though you post on here regularly), you had no typing skills, can't stand on your feet for long periods or lift while recovering from surgery and you can't find anyone to hire you.

Let's not forget the time you cleaned up a patient's fecal matter without gloves and found out said patient had something contagious. That time is was again your employer's fault because they didn't have any gloves on hand.

Honestly? You should have gotten at least a minimal amount of medical training to work as a home health aide, but you lack any medical knowledge at all based on your posts.

Everything that happens is ALWAYS someone else's fault to you. Yea, people whine on here all the time. When they whine about things that they refuse to take personal responsibility for or refuse to accept any suggestions, they are called on that, just as you have been.

Looking at the above, can you really not see that your negative attitude, lack of responsibility on the job and constant whining is going to get on people's nerves?

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:37:12 AM   
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Not the same job. This actually took place at a grocery store I worked at years ago (my first job). The boss wasn't always there during the hours I worked. Also, I wasn't always the only employee this happened to. I only mentioned because I'm trying to make a point that the boss is not always right.


No one said the boss is always right. But in the examples you are giving, you need to accept that YOU aren't absolved of personal responsibility or that you don't have the whole story.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:41:00 AM   
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And how would the employee know when the boss was or wasn't there if they weren't scheduled that day? I suppose you think every employee not scheduled should have called the store every hour until they found out what the schedule was. Seriously, if a boss changes the schedule and doesn't post it, that boss can't expect the employees to know when they're supposed to be at work. The boss is not always right.  

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:45:59 AM   
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I give up. It's no use. DBG is never going to take responsibility and my head is starting to hurt from banging it on the wall trying to talk sense.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 10:55:42 AM   
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And how would the employee know when the boss was or wasn't there if they weren't scheduled that day? I suppose you think every employee not scheduled should have called the store every hour until they found out what the schedule was. Seriously, if a boss changes the schedule and doesn't post it, that boss can't expect the employees to know when they're supposed to be at work. The boss is not always right.  

Seriously DBG same shit different thread. You have a history of blaming everyone but yourself and this is just more of the same. How fucking hard is it to find a time when you're there and so is the boss so you can check with the boss? Surely in the space of a fucking MONTH there is a time when it's possible.

I predict thread abandonment just like every other thread you've started that didn't go the way you wanted it to.

Fuck my head hurts!

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 11:59:40 AM   
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Well, let's see, you complained because your job couldn't be held open while you recovered from surgery. As a home health aid, someone has to care for your patients in your absence

Of course. That's what on call workers are for and the company has plenty.


, and from what you have said, you could never really give them a date of return because:

The pathologists, lab, doctors all messed up your tests (although even by your own explanations, everyone told you it was more that you didn't understand what they were saying) and so you needed more than one surgery.

The rushed report during surgery said the cancer was invasive. The second report that was supposed to be more thorough and accurate since it wasn't rushed said it was precancerous (in SITU). What part of conflicting reports don't you understand? My gynecologist went by the second report like any doctor would've done because the second reports are usually the accurate reports.

You completely disregard the reality that it was YOUR PERSONAL ISSUE that you didn't want to see the appropriate doctor and therefore took a (poorly) calculated risk by having the wrong doctor do the surgery and then complaining about the results.

Lots of people are afraid of oncologists. They don't only perform surgery. They also poison with chemo and radiation. Oh yeah, how could I forget your snark comment about chemo brain? Instead of googling it, you assumed it doesn't exist. I also read threads posted by women who had been through radiation treatment and could never have sex again because of the PERMANENT damage it caused. I was told a gynecologist was qualified to perform a hysterectomy for precancerous conditions.


Let's not forget you started complaining about this problem over a year ago and it was your own decision to not seek proper treatment at that time, instead choosing to come here and ask all of us what you should do, which we all said, go to the doctor.

I decided not to seek treatment?

Let's not forget the time you cleaned up a patient's fecal matter without gloves and found out said patient had something contagious. That time is was again your employer's fault because they didn't have any gloves on hand.

Most of the other posters thought management at fault for not making sure the gloves were stocked. I worked alone 3rd shift with clients who couldn't be left by themselves so I couldn't go buy gloves. If I had left the client sitting in a shitty diaper all night, I would've been guilty of abuse/neglect. Lack of gloves was not considered enough of an emergency to contact management in the middle of the night. They didn't find out the client had something contagious until several days later.

Everything that happens is ALWAYS someone else's fault to you.

Everything that happens is ALWAYS my fault to you.


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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 12:13:19 PM   
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Lots of people are afraid of oncologists. They don't only perform surgery. They also poison with chemo and radiation. Oh yeah, how could I forget your snark comment about chemo brain? Instead of googling it, you assumed it doesn't exist. I also read threads posted by women who had been through radiation treatment and could never have sex again because of the PERMANENT damage it caused. I was told a gynecologist was qualified to perform a hysterectomy for precancerous conditions.



sure but they still go and at least find out their options. Instead you CHOSE to have your surgery done by someone who isn't trained in oncologic surgery. Your disinformation is stunning and could have been corrected by speaking to an oncologist. My dad's friend took the same view - he's dead now.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 12:14:58 PM   
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And how would the employee know when the boss was or wasn't there if they weren't scheduled that day? I suppose you think every employee not scheduled should have called the store every hour until they found out what the schedule was. Seriously, if a boss changes the schedule and doesn't post it, that boss can't expect the employees to know when they're supposed to be at work. The boss is not always right.  

Seriously DBG same shit different thread. You have a history of blaming everyone but yourself and this is just more of the same. How fucking hard is it to find a time when you're there and so is the boss so you can check with the boss? Surely in the space of a fucking MONTH there is a time when it's possible.

There was no month involved in that case.  As I stated before, this was a job I had years ago where a boss liked to change the schedule and leave it locked in his office instead of posting it. Several employees complained about it.  I brought it up as an additional example of bosses not being perfect.

Fuck my head hurts!

Understandable why you missed it then. Hope your headache goes away soon.


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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 12:19:31 PM   
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You do like I used to do. If I had the day off and my boss was at work, I'd run over to work, peek my head in her office and say "did you take me off the schedule? Can I see the schedule?" or I called until I finally reached her to verify I was off the schedule and then I might call my coworker at our work and ask her to double check for me.

Here's the thing....yup, people forget but I make sure I take responsibility for MY concerns. I don't want to take a chance of being fired or being written up because I was simply too lazy or stupid to do the work needed to cover my ass.



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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 12:29:01 PM   
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Please make up your mind; I post it as your situation you tell me it isn't you. So I post it as it being about someone else you say it's you.

What do you mean no month in advance:

"My cousin was getting married and I told my manager a month in advance that I needed that day off. I didn't get fired over it, but I had an unexcused absence counted against me. Nothing like being forced to accept consequences for the mistake of someone else. "

So don't try and tell me that there was no point in time when you couldn't have checked to make sure you were off the schedule.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 1:04:38 PM   
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The post you quoted and responded to (post #72) was in reference to a job I had years ago. My cousin's wedding took place when I was at my most recent job with a fixed schedule. Yes, in that case I could have reminded the boss. But why do bosses need to be reminded? I thought the whole point of letting them know in advance is give them time to schedule around the absence. I guess the ability to write things down and stay organized isn't in their job description.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 1:10:59 PM   
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In the case of our roommate's ex co-worker, if she missed her shift without calling in, she would be 100% at fault. There are very few valid excuses for a no call no show. The employee being unable to call in because they're in a coma comes to mind.

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RE: fired for family issues - 11/19/2011 1:17:45 PM   
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The post you quoted and responded to (post #72) was in reference to a job I had years ago. My cousin's wedding took place when I was at my most recent job with a fixed schedule. Yes, in that case I could have reminded the boss. But why do bosses need to be reminded? I thought the whole point of letting them know in advance is give them time to schedule around the absence. I guess the ability to write things down and stay organized isn't in their job description.



When you were working, did you show this same kind of attitude at work that you show here?

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