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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 12:39:38 AM

jojoluvr

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Oh, and of course, as with any other thread, there's the lunatic fringe. But every court needs a jester.

poor analogy, i'm afraid -- the jester wasn't the lunatic at court. s/he was the one who got away with telling the truth -- even if in a subversive way. maybe considered "lunatic" by those who are frightened or offended by difference or challenges to the status quo, questioning of power, etc. -- but not, i think, the lunatic fringe you mean in bdsm.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 12:45:46 AM

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True. I was looking mostly at the entertainment value.

And, btw, that's a lovely Shakespearian view of jesters - who were a useful dramatic device in several of the plays. The reality isn't quite the same, but then real life is never quite like the movies (or plays!).

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 1:09:20 AM

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The whole point is that some are so blinded by their own personal biases and ability to witch hunt, that they cannot comprehend anything beyond or outside of either one.

The funny thing is, he's trying so hard, and nobody has the common decency to attack him. Come on folks, make an effort! Get those personal biases ready and let's have us a witch hunt! Make his day! How DARE we be unreasonably tolerant when he's so desperate for a good fight.

If I'm not mistaken, you stated earlier in this thread ''But it's also a sexual relationship, and that's the bit that I'm not comfortable with. I can understand the need for the parent/child dynamic, but to me it shouldn't include sexual activity.''... in reference to age play... NOT if it works for you it's ok, just not my thing... which I see you now posting in other replies (ie. my honest opinion of age play is ok, but not my thing).

So apparently you changed your stance somewhere mid-thread from age play should NOT involve sex... to now age play is ok but not my cup of tea... and forgot doing so or something???... lol, make your biased mind up and stick to it.

You also stated earlier that your justification for your age play negative bias was your observances of abuse victims.

While I've maintained a constant stance on the age play issue, you've stated multiple conflicting stances and now accuse me of a desperation to fight with you.... it's hard to fight with someone who changes stances, no matter how desperate you or they are.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 1:27:31 AM

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You apparently missed the words, "to me".

I repeat - I'm not comfortable with it for a number of reasons. I wouldn't choose it for myself. My personal view is that sex shouldn't mix with the daddy/child relationship.

But I also said that I can understand the nurturing and support the relationship gives. And that, although it's not my thing, it's hers (and presumably yours) and you're free to choose whatever kink you want. Go for it, have fun.

I didn't say it should be banned. I didn't say it was beyond the bounds of decency. I didn't start a petition to have it cut from the site and hurled into outer darkness forever. I just said it's not my choice, and makes me a bit uncomfortable. So does having a root canal, cleaning out my gutters, and scaling fish. We all have some activities we prefer more than others.

I respect the right to disagree. You see anything less than total agreement as an all-out attack.

Congratulations, you got the attention you wanted!

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 4:33:36 AM

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You seem to be complaining that people responded honestly to this thread. We were asked how we felt about ageplay, and plenty of people responded honestly, openly and without hostility. The most common response was, 'It's not for me, but I wish you well'.

Now you seem to be complaining that you didn't get a round of applause and a queue of people desperate to sign up.

It isn't criticism, or intolerance, to say, 'whatever floats your boat; it's not for me but that's ok'.

And I do admire the irony of you announcing that you don't judge anyone, but that everyone else is lacking in morals, and they are insensitive and judgemental.

I did not say everyone was lacking in morals. I was asking for an opinion. But I was clarifying in my las statement that I should not hide myself. She doesnt. OK I just reread what I said and not one word said anything about morals. I know all have their perspectives of thingking but please dont add words to my mouth so to speak because that is not what I said. I said to the effect that I prefer not to judge others. I did not judge her. I explained that she didnt hide herself why should I.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 4:53:49 AM

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Caitlyn,

Why hide who I am? I am not a scaredy cat. I am a roaring lioness. I make myself known because I am who I am. But the thing is that no one should judge someone else. Everyone knows the saying. judge not lest ye be judged. Where have the morals of life gone? I dont judge anyone. Why? Well its this. I want to treat others the way I want to be treated. Kindly. Keeping things behind closed doors will only make cause for speculation. And then you get judged. Well if people have an understanding about who I am they are more apt to accept me for who I am insteading pretending to be someone I am not. My lifestyle is who I am at this time. Do you hide that you are a submissive. NOOO. You put it out there for everyone to know so that you can find that wonderful compatible partner to share your life with. And afterwards you want everyone to know how happy you are. Well that is me too. Just a different aspect of it. The same with Doms. They want the subs who are looking at them to know who they are. I dont want to hide who I am. My boss even knows who I am. She may think I am nuts about it but guess what she accepts me for who I am. She knows that I am a sincere loving individual. And we are pretty much friends. And my Daddy Dom also works where I work so she knows him to. Why hide who we are. Hell if we all did that then we would still have witches being hung in Salem Massachusetts. Guess what? We dont anymore because people are accepting those who are different. The prejudice against those who are different has to end. Even if it is a meager lifestyle or that someone smokes cigs or someone wishes to spank a bratty child. You should not judge. Thank you very much.

Dani

You seem to be complaining that people responded honestly to this thread. We were asked how we felt about ageplay, and plenty of people responded honestly, openly and without hostility. The most common response was, 'It's not for me, but I wish you well'.

Now you seem to be complaining that you didn't get a round of applause and a queue of people desperate to sign up.

It isn't criticism, or intolerance, to say, 'whatever floats your boat; it's not for me but that's ok'.

And I do admire the irony of you announcing that you don't judge anyone, but that everyone else is lacking in morals, and they are insensitive and judgemental.

dang, becca, where on earth did you see THAT?

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 5:02:46 AM

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Bear lee thanks, Just woke up this morning. Seen that. and was a bit upset. But I did not say that everyone was lacking in morals. Just asked where they went. I dont want attacks to happen here. Just opinions. And when someone says I should do something that hides me its upsetting to see that by someone else who isnt hiding themselves. The way the statement of hiding was put hypocritically. Sorry becca for the misunderstanding. 7 in the morning is not a good time for me writing I guess. And bearlee thanks for clarifying. Just remember I was just asking a simple question not saying everyone lacked thereof.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 6:43:33 AM

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Bear lee thanks, Just woke up this morning. Seen that. and was a bit upset. But I did not say that everyone was lacking in morals. Just asked where they went. I dont want attacks to happen here. Just opinions. And when someone says I should do something that hides me its upsetting to see that by someone else who isnt hiding themselves. The way the statement of hiding was put hypocritically. Sorry becca for the misunderstanding. 7 in the morning is not a good time for me writing I guess. And bearlee thanks for clarifying. Just remember I was just asking a simple question not saying everyone lacked thereof.

I'm sorry, I saw your remark asking where have morals gone, and I gave it more emphasis than you'd intended.

I applaud you for refusing to be pushed aside, and I understand your frustration at feeling a lack of acceptance. Most of those who responded here have tried to explain their feelings, I'm sorry that you didn't find more who are in synch with you.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 7:22:54 AM

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I think you may be reading far too much into my words. What you do with you life is just none of my business. I was mearly pointing out that a very good way to ameliorate negative feedback about what you do, is to exercise your right to keep it to yourself. If you choose to consider that "hiding", then so be it.

Tolerance is a very slippery slope. Tolerance for one position, is often intolerance towards another. I think you might be seeing some of that in this thread. You hammered back at me, when all I really said is that you can avoid criticism by not putting yourself on display.

That is a factual statement; correct?

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 7:33:45 AM

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since I am a adult baby, I find this whole thing confusing.

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 1:15:37 PM

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Caitlyn,

Maybe I still missed your point completely. But You still say something to the effect of hiding myself from the publics veiw. Let me clarify.

I dont want you to take this the wrong way it is just an example. I put a profile up as a submissive on one of those so called normal dating sites. And then started to get emails from others saying, "Are you nuts for wanting to live in the past? THis is not the 50's you know." Then the others started. Now should I just hide away and not find the one I want because I put myself out there for others to know who I am or just write a profile that basically lies about who I am and not be happy at all? Well what I did is find sites that actually approve of who I am. Then I realized that there is something deeper to my submission. I needed something a little more. And now I get the other hate emails.

I dont want people to think that I am just submissive. I want them to know the real me. If I say I am someone else then meet them and they find different they would be pist at me for lying. So yes I understand where you are coming from but in order for others to know those they talk to you have to be honest about who you are. And that is what I am doing here.

Dani

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RE: What is so wrong with age play? - 5/30/2006 1:19:48 PM

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Becca,

I do find others in synch with me. And I really appreciate all the opinions. It helps me to understand better. When I said where have all the morals of life gone I was refering to those who have written the hate emails. I know they most likely are not reading this. But most of the hate emails I recieved were on another site. Not here. I just wanted opinions not hate. That is why I asked here. Because the people here are very much more respectful of others differences.

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