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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 1:54:06 PM   
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Canned is "tasty" because is it full of MSG.

Do you have a slow cooker/crockpot? I usually make my broth the night before in the slow cooker and then it is ready the following day for whatever I need (as soup, or to freeze in an ice cube tray for cooking with).

For dinner, roast a whole chicken (easy peasy...season the outside of the chicken and put in at 350 for about 1-2 hrs depending on size until timer pops). That is dinner that night. When cleaning up after dinner, collect the bones and debone the rest of the left over chicken (put in a container in the fridge for sandwiches/snacking or to add back to soup later). Put chicken carcass in crockpot with onion, celery and carrots and a DASH of apple cider vinegar (this will leach the calcium out of the bones and into the broth). Cover with water. Cook on high overnight. The following day, take out the bones and veggies and you are left with broth.


Tomato puree I just buy canned. It's about $1/can for a 32 oz. can when it is on sale and I stock up then (I use it for marinara as well as chili recipes).

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 1:57:35 PM   
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Dinner tonight is pork chops (pepper and garlic powder) topped with pineapple tidbits, a small baked potato, and steamed mixed veggies with a rosemary butter sauce.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 2:10:32 PM   
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Remember this is for a diabetic, and I don't like long complicated recipes so it needs to be very simple, but I also want it to taste as good or as close to canned as possible, as I find canned tasty.,


I find canned tomatoes superior to out-of-season supermarket tomatoes - look for a brand that doesn't contain corn syrup. You can take whole or diced canned tomatoes and puree them in the blender or cuisinart. Add a tablespoon or so chili powder to make it enchilada-y.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 2:23:09 PM   
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Dinner tonight is Chicken Cacciatore that I made in the crockpot:

1 whole chicken (4#)
1 28 oz can tomatoes
1/2 cup red wine (optional)
2 t dried Italian seasoning (basil/oregano, etc.)
1/2 C diced onions
1/2 C diced celery
3 cloves garlic, diced

not in original recipe but added for nutrition:
- 1/2 C dried lentils

I cooked for 5 hours on low, then removed the chicken. While it was cooling enough to de-bone, I added
- 1 T tomato paste
- 1 can white beans (also not authentic but nutritious)

Debone the chicken and put the meat back in the pot.

M is Italian so I am going to serve over pasta, but this is not necessary as the lentils and beans provide complex carbs.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 2:35:20 PM   
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Remember this is for a diabetic, and I don't like long complicated recipes so it needs to be very simple, but I also want it to taste as good or as close to canned as possible, as I find canned tasty.,


I never use any sugar in my tomato sauce, but the prep time I use is a bit longer.  My quick recipe is shorter prep time than the sauce I make that cooks all day.

Sautee onions and garlic in the bottom of the pot with a little olive oil until soft.

Then add canned diced tomotoes, crushed tomatoes, puree, whichever you prefer for consistency.  Large cans.  Then add canned tomato paste (I buy during "can can" sales).  Those cans are small, so I use 2-3 depending how thick I want the sauce.  Add a can or a can and a half of water for each can of paste.  Season with oregano, bay leaf, onion and garlic powder, salt, pepper, italian seasoning, grated parmesan, a little red pepper flakes to taste. 

If you like a chunky marinara, not only use the canned diced tomatoes, but add some fresh diced of your own.  You can also add diced pepper, shredded carrots (these will cook down to nothing this way), some mushrooms (I don't like mushrooms).

For me, sauce needs sausage and ground meat to flavor it right.  I usually will brown both together in a pan, using hot and sweet sausage that have been removed from the casing and then make it a meat sauce.  But if you want to be able to take the meat out of the sauce and only leave the flavor they give, brown the whole sausage in the oven on a cookie sheet (easier to drain the fat, less standing at the stove) and use meat balls.  When the sauce is done, you can remove the meats.  It needs to simmer for a couple of hours at least.

This is a basic sauce, if you prefer seafood, you can add that instead of meat.  Leave out the meat if you are a vegetarian.  I don't like seafood with tomato sauce, so I never make that, but you can add clams, scungilli, calamari, mussels, whatever seafood you want.

But this sauce takes a good thirty minutes of prep time.  Then it only involves stirring now and then.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 2:39:34 PM   
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hey TFB
Your freezer setting may be too high causing "freezer burn"  I get that too and had to verrrrry slightly adjust the freezer setting.  You can also try bagging it in it's original bag...in a freezer ziplock.  the air between the bags may give you a little bit of insulation to prevent the frost buildup.

I switched completely from canned veggies to either frozen or preferably fresh.  If you go the frozen route, they are pre-cut so that saves you time. Flavorwise, not as good or nutritious as fresh but I always have bags of frozen veggies in my freezer since my schedule doesn't always make it easy to keep fresh around.  I don't even have salt in the house--I season with black pepper or I'll throw in one or two small slices of jalapeno for flavor.

I bought--for a whopping $5--a large wok at IKEA.   It's nice and big, heats up evenly and incredibly quickly (I have a gas stove) and I can make dinner for two in about 15 minutes from whatever I find in the fridge.  I use extra virgin olive oil--just a tiny bit and I swish it all around to keep the veggies from sticking.  I toss in frozen or fresh veggies and you can also put in some lean chicken or lean beef, make a quick stir fry.  (I don't use soy sauce--too much salt)  I''ll usually do a veggie stir fry, mix in some pasta sauce (just a little, not a lot).

I switched to whole wheat pasta--it's a better carb, much more filling so I eat less of it--I just make a cup or so per person, cook it up, then drain it and dump it into the stir fry for a few minutes.  Very very fast, very easy and only one small pot and the wok to clean up afterwards.  

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 3:09:40 PM   
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TFB, since you are still hungry after eating dinner, eat more vegetables.  Tomatoes, bell peppers, carrots, cucumbers, broccolli, cauliflower, celery whatever you want.  Eat them raw and you can even put a tablespoon of salad dressing on them.  You would be surprised at how far a tablespoon of dressing goes on a cup or two of vegetables.  Don't dip, pour the dressing on and stir it around, it coats everything better.  Essentially, with the fresh veggies, you can eat as much of them as you want, just watch it on the dressing, don't use too much.  A little vingarette has less calories than ranch, and still adds that extra "zest" to the veggies.

Also you can make your own ice tea from herbal tea and seriously cut down on the sugar/splenda that it needs.  Slowly cutting down the sweetener you put in tea or coffee will help you lose weight without even trying.

I will make herbal ice tea using a mixture of chamomile (sometimes the one that is honey and chamomile), Bigalow's Constant Comfort (an orange spice that reminds me of autumn), lemon zinger, mint, and apple cinnamon.  Use whatever herbal teas you like.  I don't like the berry teas, but they will be sweet on their own.  Also, if you use the apple, don't use more than one or two unless you really like apple cinnamon tea, as that flavor will overpower everything else.  But the berry and apple teas make the tea sweet without sugar.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 4:26:53 PM   
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Yup, we do. I know tomato puree is cheap, but I am sure it's far healthier made from scratch. And the whole point of cooking for myself was to be healthier than canned or premade.


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Canned is "tasty" because is it full of MSG.

Do you have a slow cooker/crockpot? I usually make my broth the night before in the slow cooker and then it is ready the following day for whatever I need (as soup, or to freeze in an ice cube tray for cooking with).




Tomato puree I just buy canned. It's about $1/can for a 32 oz. can when it is on sale and I stock up then (I use it for marinara as well as chili recipes).


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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 4:31:50 PM   
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I think ours is an older modle, I am not sure it has a setting with out going and looking, but I am also sure that the seal not sealing properly and sometimes things thaw a little bit have a lot to do with it sometimes, but I will double bag in the future.


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hey TFB
Your freezer setting may be too high causing "freezer burn"  I get that too and had to verrrrry slightly adjust the freezer setting.  You can also try bagging it in it's original bag...in a freezer ziplock.  the air between the bags may give you a little bit of insulation to prevent the frost buildup.



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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 4:39:18 PM   
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Yup, we do. I know tomato puree is cheap, but I am sure it's far healthier made from scratch. And the whole point of cooking for myself was to be healthier than canned or premade.





When it comes to tomatoes in many many ways you are actually better off with canned, just try and buy brands that don't have any added ingredients.  Most of the tomatoes you buy in the store have lost some of their nutritional value and they are pretty expensive.  Canning just preserves tomatoes better so in this one instance canning is your friend as long as you are buying smart.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 4:40:41 PM   
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I was just thinking I should ask about how to make fresh peach tea, I like crystal light well enough but I think fresh tea would be better.

I only use sweet and low when we go out to eat, cause I don't usually drink ice tea at home, so I don't need to worry about weening it down cause it's not a huge occurrance. But Crystal light gets expensive at 4 bucks for two packs and even if you dole it out and don't drink it a lot, if you can get the tea flavors the way you like, why not switch. unless it remains cheaper to drink the powder lol.


I made mint ice tea once and didn't like it and unfortunately it went to waste, but I like lemon flavor as long as it's not that sickly kinda flavor you get from the canned shit, and I like peach, and I like regular ice tea with just the sugar taste in it.


I tried green tea from lipton and found it distasteful.

I find a good way to try tea's are when they have sampler packs and you can get a few samples to drink for free, like at hotel morning brunches, or other places that do complimentary hot tea drinks, they always put a pack of assorted tea's out. I enjoy that because you can try what ever flavor interests you and not buy a big box and have it be a potential flop, which happens most times for me when I try new tea's. The aroma smells so enticing and so does the name like Chi vanilla and you taste it and it's bleccccccch.

I don't muck up bell peppers with dressing lol I prefer to eat them raw, and think they're better that way, same with good fresh crisp carrots,but I do understand the appeal of dressing for so many veggies.
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TFB, since you are still hungry after eating dinner, eat more vegetables.  Tomatoes, bell peppers, carrots, cucumbers, broccolli, cauliflower, celery whatever you want.  Eat them raw and you can even put a tablespoon of salad dressing on them.  You would be surprised at how far a tablespoon of dressing goes on a cup or two of vegetables.  Don't dip, pour the dressing on and stir it around, it coats everything better.  Essentially, with the fresh veggies, you can eat as much of them as you want, just watch it on the dressing, don't use too much.  A little vingarette has less calories than ranch, and still adds that extra "zest" to the veggies.

Also you can make your own ice tea from herbal tea and seriously cut down on the sugar/splenda that it needs.  Slowly cutting down the sweetener you put in tea or coffee will help you lose weight without even trying.

I will make herbal ice tea using a mixture of chamomile (sometimes the one that is honey and chamomile), Bigalow's Constant Comfort (an orange spice that reminds me of autumn), lemon zinger, mint, and apple cinnamon.  Use whatever herbal teas you like.  I don't like the berry teas, but they will be sweet on their own.  Also, if you use the apple, don't use more than one or two unless you really like apple cinnamon tea, as that flavor will overpower everything else.  But the berry and apple teas make the tea sweet without sugar.


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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 4:56:51 PM   
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I wished I could have eaten what was on my mind.

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 5:13:07 PM   
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I usually add a pinch of sugar to tomato dishes. Meaning just that, probably less than 1/8 teaspoon. I find it cuts the acidity of tomatoes.

Read the labels of the cans to see which have sugar and which don't. Some are just tomatoes and salt.

The most important thing for a diabetic is to stop drinking sweetened drinks. The Man was given one free session with a diabetic counselor after diagnosis and she came in with a 20 oz bottle of Pepsi and then pulled out a container of sugar to show him just how much sugar is in soft drinks. It's 18 teaspoons by the way. Go to the sugar bowl, count out 18 teaspoons and realize you're putting this into your body multiple times a day. Put it in a clear container on the counter to stare at. Either learn to drink diet or just get water with lemon in it.

In one year, he brought his fasting blood sugar down from 280 to 140 by just switching to diet soda and not buying a candy bar every day. He lost 30 pounds at the same time.

Now in the second year, he's watching how much he eats and notes whether he's hungry enough to eat more or just wants the food for comfort. He's lost almost another 20 pounds doing this.


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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 5:30:35 PM   
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I don't drink fruit juice or soda, or any of those flavored waters or "health waters loaded with sugar" or highly sugared drinks. I only drink crystal light, ice tea, the occasional minute maid light lemon-aid every once in a while, , or plain water. 99% of the time I am drinking plain water at home, if we go out to eat at a sit down restaurant, ice tea. And I have no intention of giving up crystal light , ice tea or the occasional lemon-aid light.

I've read a few articles that said diet soda was just as harmful as regular soda in terms of weight loss. I know some people can not go with out their soda vices, but they're better off dropping all soda all together than drinking diet according to the health articles.

My personal opnion is diet soda tastes like crap. I got a diet pepsi one time at an x's house on accident when there was nothing else to drink and took one swig and poured that crap down the drain l ol.





Daddy is a huge soda drinker though and I finally nagged him from like a case every few days to rarely drinking it now lol. Plus he wants to be in better shape and loose weight and realizes it downing 4-5 cokes a day week after week isn't going to help the matter, only hinder.
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If you object to using veal, what kinda similar meat ca... - 12/5/2011 5:33:29 PM   
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this one recipe calls for 4 pounds veal shoulder, tied, and Daddy won't eat veal, so what kinda meat that's not super expensive can we buy?

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RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar ... - 12/5/2011 5:43:18 PM   
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I was just thinking I should ask about how to make fresh peach tea, I like crystal light well enough but I think fresh tea would be better.

I only use sweet and low when we go out to eat, cause I don't usually drink ice tea at home, so I don't need to worry about weening it down cause it's not a huge occurrance. But Crystal light gets expensive at 4 bucks for two packs and even if you dole it out and don't drink it a lot, if you can get the tea flavors the way you like, why not switch. unless it remains cheaper to drink the powder lol.


I made mint ice tea once and didn't like it and unfortunately it went to waste, but I like lemon flavor as long as it's not that sickly kinda flavor you get from the canned shit, and I like peach, and I like regular ice tea with just the sugar taste in it.


I tried green tea from lipton and found it distasteful.

I find a good way to try tea's are when they have sampler packs and you can get a few samples to drink for free, like at hotel morning brunches, or other places that do complimentary hot tea drinks, they always put a pack of assorted tea's out. I enjoy that because you can try what ever flavor interests you and not buy a big box and have it be a potential flop, which happens most times for me when I try new tea's. The aroma smells so enticing and so does the name like Chi vanilla and you taste it and it's bleccccccch.

I don't muck up bell peppers with dressing lol I prefer to eat them raw, and think they're better that way, same with good fresh crisp carrots,but I do understand the appeal of dressing for so many veggies.


Fresh tea works, but if you either pre-diabetic (or diabetic at this point from what you've been saying) the sugar you're going to be adding isn't going to help all that much and could be a bit problem if you are having more then a glass a day.  (Then as you said you get into the situation where you are using the artificial sweeteners.)  The plus side to it though - is that you can slowly cut down on the amount of sugar you are adding and get used to drinking it unsweetened.  Good iced tea (unless its made from low quality tea) shouldn't be bitter unless you've let it steep for too long (in my experience, anything longer the 5 minutes is too much but this could vary depending on the brand.)  

Unsweetened iced tea in itself is relatively harmless beyond the caffeine content (or buy decaff.) so its not a bad choice if you are trying to get away from heavily sweetened or artificial stuff. 

Peach tea is easy to make, and you have a couple ways to make it with fresh peaches.  First way would be to pit your peaches and slice them, and they lay them on the bottom of the pitcher you are going to pour your boiling water into, or add them into your pot of boiling water when you add the tea bags and have taken it off the heat.  Your second option would be to peel and pit them and then blend them in a blender with a little water until it is very smooth.  Then add to your tea.  I've never done the blender option (friend does this because it gives more of a peach flavor, and I am not a peach person.)

Do keep in mind though that fruit will sweeten the tea (since they container sugar) and you need to keep that sugar in mind when you are balancing everything else.  On a personal note, I've always secretly marvel at the people at there who can do crystal light and other aspartame drinks.  That sweetener just makes me miserable.  

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RE: If you object to using veal, what kinda similar mea... - 12/5/2011 5:49:15 PM   
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What's on sale in your local market?
You can make stew from just about anything. Poultry requires less cooking time than meat usually and is also, usually, less expensive.

We drink water and crystal light at home, but The Man used to drink four or five sodas a day. With sugar. He drinks less now and always sugar free.

But diabetics can't think solely in terms of weight loss, they must think about blood sugar levels first. What makes them higher and what makes them lower. The weight loss will come as a side effect when you make changes to lower the blood sugar.

What about tacos for dinner? Brown rice, beans, tortillas filled with some cooked meat or chicken, lettuce, tomatoes and any other vegetable you like. I'm partial to sweet red peppers personally. And a little cheese.

You can make these quick and use any leftovers for the meat, heated up with a little liquid.So if you make a package of barbecued chicken thighs baked in the oven, then remove the skin from the ones left over, take the meat off the bone and cut into small strips.


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RE: If you object to using veal, what kinda similar mea... - 12/5/2011 5:56:45 PM   
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I've already got a few meals planned and lined up, but taco's can be one of them eventually. Though not really a taco fan unless it's drowning in sour cream and cheese, that kind of defeats the healthy purpose lol.


At this moment I don't know. but I'm asking for a very specific recipe.

I'm thinking this sounds good.

Veal Braised in Milk and Honey with Buttered Turnips



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RE: If you object to using veal, what kinda similar mea... - 12/5/2011 5:57:56 PM   
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Veal is a form of beer, so switch to a roast.

You are 100% right about diet soda.  It isn't any better for diabetics than regular soda.  As I have mentioned several times, according to the ADA, the body will start to recognize artificial sweeteners the same as plain old sugar.  No difference.

A note on diets and calorie counting.  You said you were told anything less than 2000 calories is considered a starvation diet.  This is not true.  It all depends on the person.  If you simply cut your calorie intake, you are making a positive change.  For instance if you are commonly consumiing 5000 calories a day right now, cutting that in half to 2500 WILL result in weight loss.

Likewise, if your blood sugar has been a steady 210 prior to being diagnosed, when your blood sugar hits 140, you may feel symptoms of low blood sugar.  Why?  Because your body has been operating on a much higher count, so even though 140 is not low blood sugar to most people, and in fact would be considered a high fasting count, for YOU as the individual, you will react as though you have low blood sugar because for your body it IS low, until your BS level comes down and you adjust.

Diabetes, like most diseases does not have a one size fits all treatment protocol.  Certainly there are some things that go across the board for everyone, but most things need to be adjusted for each individual.

As for giving up your Crystal Light, sweet tea or lite lemonade drinks, it all comes down to how many of them you are consuming each day.  Do you go through 1/2 a gallon of Crystal Light a day?  Cut back.  Do you drink just a couple of glasses each day?  Don't worry about it.

Also, there are a lot of generic drink mixes out there similar to Crystal Light (sugar free, artificially sweetened).  They will be less expensive and are worth trying.  You can also stretch them by using more water than in the instructions.  For me, most of those drinks are still far too sweet and if they are watered down (say only pouring half a glass of the drink, filling the rest with plain water), you might find them just as enjoyable, but you are getting half the artificial sweetener, AND you are saving money.  Did you know that Mt. Dew has 45 grams of sugar, but the individual packs of grape Kool Aid (for the 16 oz. water bottles) has only 8 grams?  Quite a differenc, huh?

Have you ever tried to make your own lemonade?  You can usually buy like 6 lemons for a couple of bucks.  Juice them, add water and sweeten to taste.  You can also do it with lemon juice concentrate and individual bottles of water.  For me, I just squirt some lemon juice into the bottle, and don't add sugar.

The key, TFB is to figuring out where you can make small changes that will have great impact, but be barely noticeable.  Choose foods, like raw veggies, that you can eat with almost complete abandon having as many as you want without adding significant additional calories.  Put one less packet of sweet and low (or half a packet) into your ice tea.  Add the sweet and low a little at a time, and stop as soon as you find it sweet enough to your tastes.

Hope that helps.

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RE: If you object to using veal, what kinda similar mea... - 12/6/2011 9:30:18 AM   
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Yes. it makes sense, I drink Crystal light the on the go packets, that fill up one bottle of water about every few days,I was drinking it more, like once everyday but just naturally slacked off now most days it's weeks and weeks before I have one unless I am on a kick and then it's once a day maybe twice a day.

Yes. I've had Wylers, it's generic crystal light and it sucks, in my opinion it's no where as tasty as Crystal light, and they don't have the same amount of choices, and I wasn't able to find Peach tea to my recollection


Crystal light is sweetened with Splenda, but they now make boxes with real sugar, but they cost more and I am ok with the ones sweetened with splenda.

I'm not sure what my blood sugar was I want to say she said it was 140. she said if you look at me overall I am not diabetic but if you look at my blood fasting levels, they indicate I am, so it's kind of confusing, and when I was testing my BS every morning I was not super high, not where I should be, i want to say 111 or around there. I can't remember I stopped testing a while ago because at that point it wasn't necessary to test everyday.


No I didn't know that I don't drink either drinks so I wouldn't know their sugar stats. When I was a kid though KoolAid was popular
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A note on diets and calorie counting.  You said you were told anything less than 2000 calories is considered a starvation diet.  This is not true.  It all depends on the person.  If you simply cut your calorie intake, you are making a positive change.  For instance if you are commonly consumiing 5000 calories a day right now, cutting that in half to 2500 WILL result in weight loss.

Likewise, if your blood sugar has been a steady 210 prior to being diagnosed, when your blood sugar hits 140, you may feel symptoms of low blood sugar.  Why?  Because your body has been operating on a much higher count, so even though 140 is not low blood sugar to most people, and in fact would be considered a high fasting count, for YOU as the individual, you will react as though you have low blood sugar because for your body it IS low, until your BS level comes down and you adjust.

Diabetes, like most diseases does not have a one size fits all treatment protocol.  Certainly there are some things that go across the board for everyone, but most things need to be adjusted for each individual.

As for giving up your Crystal Light, sweet tea or lite lemonade drinks, it all comes down to how many of them you are consuming each day.  Do you go through 1/2 a gallon of Crystal Light a day?  Cut back.  Do you drink just a couple of glasses each day?  Don't worry about it.

Also, there are a lot of generic drink mixes out there similar to Crystal Light (sugar free, artificially sweetened).  They will be less expensive and are worth trying.  You can also stretch them by using more water than in the instructions.  For me, most of those drinks are still far too sweet and if they are watered down (say only pouring half a glass of the drink, filling the rest with plain water), you might find them just as enjoyable, but you are getting half the artificial sweetener, AND you are saving money.  Did you know that Mt. Dew has 45 grams of sugar, but the individual packs of grape Kool Aid (for the 16 oz. water bottles) has only 8 grams?  Quite a differenc, huh?

Have you ever tried to make your own lemonade?  You can usually buy like 6 lemons for a couple of bucks.  Juice them, add water and sweeten to taste.  You can also do it with lemon juice concentrate and individual bottles of water.  For me, I just squirt some lemon juice into the bottle, and don't add sugar.

The key, TFB is to figuring out where you can make small changes that will have great impact, but be barely noticeable.  Choose foods, like raw veggies, that you can eat with almost complete abandon having as many as you want without adding significant additional calories.  Put one less packet of sweet and low (or half a packet) into your ice tea.  Add the sweet and low a little at a time, and stop as soon as you find it sweet enough to your tastes.

Hope that helps.



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