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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster
how many guesses do you want to make? in your opinion this, and that and the other. You are making stuff up to fit your fears
Maybe the cops will make an assumption or two when they see your loved one doing something a bit daft and shoot him or her. Happy?

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

I am not saying if this women was right or wrong but has anyone ever had a kid or heard of a kid who went off the rails for a while then realised the error of their ways and settled down to be a decent person?
I reckon quite a few of you know some people like that, maybe some of you know people who have had mental problems for a while but are fine now.
Wouldn't it be a tradegy if those people were now dead?
Every dead body is someones son or daughter, possibly someones dad or mother.
We will never know what that man wanted, he may have just wanted some cash, he may have just wanted to let off some steam, and obviously he may have wanted to kill her and her baby. but we will never know because he is dead.
Most people on CM seem to back the idea that killing anyone who threatens you, or your family or even just your property deserves to die but try for one second to imagine that it is your son or daughter lying dead in a pool of blood, still happy?

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

I am not saying if this women was right or wrong but has anyone ever had a kid or heard of a kid who went off the rails for a while then realised the error of their ways and settled down to be a decent person?
I reckon quite a few of you know some people like that, maybe some of you know people who have had mental problems for a while but are fine now.
Wouldn't it be a tradegy if those people were now dead?
Every dead body is someones son or daughter, possibly someones dad or mother.
We will never know what that man wanted, he may have just wanted some cash, he may have just wanted to let off some steam, and obviously he may have wanted to kill her and her baby. but we will never know because he is dead.
Most people on CM seem to back the idea that killing anyone who threatens you, or your family or even just your property deserves to die but try for one second to imagine that it is your son or daughter lying dead in a pool of blood, still happy?

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

A girl after my own heart!

http://www.kfor.com/news/kfor-blanchard-woman-shoots-and-kills-intruder-20120101,0,2752550.story

The city should give her a medal. The community should come together and help her with cleanup and repairs.

"When seconds count, the law is only minutes away"

or, in some cases 21 minutes away.

'hawk

when mistakes are made death is only a millisecond away

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ORIGINAL: tj444
Its scary tho that she said if it wasnt for the fear she felt for her child, that she wouldnt have shot the attacker.. if she had been alone she might be dead now herself.. Women need to get that their lives are more important, important enough to fully defend themselves even if it means killing their attacker, imo..

I'm wondering if her comment may have been the result of depression, and feeling lost/unmoored, as her husband had just died, and her dogs had been killed.

jmo but I dont think so.. I have read comments from women before where they said they would never be able to kill anyone (even faced in this type of situation).. Women are brought up to be nice to everyone, obedient, passive, etc which makes women more vulnerable & puts them at greater risk for rape, abduction, being murdered..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Welcome Lady
But FR

Im actually very anti "guns for everyone", for a number of reasons, and while I rarely get into gun right arguments, I do find the good needs to be shown as much as the bad.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/3-year-old-shoots-and-kills-5-year-old-in-colorado/
A 5-year-old boy is dead after a shooting inside an apartment Friday morning in Lakewood, Colo., and police say a 3-year-old boy pulled the trigger.
Police said they believe the shooting was accidental, but one of the adults in the apartment at the time, Adam Laham, 23, was arrested on charges of child abuse resulting in death and criminal negligence.
I mention this Just as a balance and why I am so very anti gun ....period.
Im not denying Im glad the lady is alive and well after her ordeal, so please no one put words in my mouth.

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

I am not saying if this women was right or wrong but has anyone ever had a kid or heard of a kid who went off the rails for a while then realised the error of their ways and settled down to be a decent person?
I reckon quite a few of you know some people like that, maybe some of you know people who have had mental problems for a while but are fine now.
Wouldn't it be a tradegy if those people were now dead?
Every dead body is someones son or daughter, possibly someones dad or mother.
We will never know what that man wanted, he may have just wanted some cash, he may have just wanted to let off some steam, and obviously he may have wanted to kill her and her baby. but we will never know because he is dead.
Most people on CM seem to back the idea that killing anyone who threatens you, or your family or even just your property deserves to die but try for one second to imagine that it is your son or daughter lying dead in a pool of blood, still happy?

Clearly, those two jumped their tracks long ago. I do not care who he was, what his lost potential was, or what he wanted. It is obvious he wanted that which was not his to take. They were a threat and menace to society, and at least one got their just due. That moronic deviant rightly lost his right to a future, when he made himself a threat to hers, and her child.

I have no patience, nor make excuses, for violators of this nature. Their parents failed them, and they failed themselves, long ago. It is not my job to bring up your errant child, teach him right from wrong, accede to, or become victim of, his disease and lack of boundaries and social conscience, or clean up his mess. If you produce a wild and dangerous child or dog, it is MY job to protect myself/my property from him/it. PERIOD! And don't come crying to me about your pain, afterwards. You reap what you sow!

That anyone would attempt to feel sorry for them/theirs, or guilt trip me over such a thing is of great concern, and I seriously question their stability and the setting of their moral compass. One only gets so many chances in this life, and allowing, and apologizing, for such bad, anti-social is disturbing, at best.

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

I am just playing devils advocate, could she have gone out of the back door and run away? A small woman with an infant in her arms outrunning a couple of big, male hoodlums? Are you serious? Surely you know, her running would likely further trigger their stalk/attack impulse.

I don't know, but I do know that when you are dead there is no coming back. That is both the purpose and the point! Personally, I see it as a service to society to cull those genes from the gene pool.

Guns mean dead people, one of those dead people might be your son, happy? Were that the case, he would have gotten what he would have deserved, and I'd have no one to blame but myself.

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

A girl after my own heart!

http://www.kfor.com/news/kfor-blanchard-woman-shoots-and-kills-intruder-20120101,0,2752550.story

The city should give her a medal. The community should come together and help her with cleanup and repairs.

"When seconds count, the law is only minutes away"

or, in some cases 21 minutes away.

'hawk

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

I am not saying if this women was right or wrong but has anyone ever had a kid or heard of a kid who went off the rails for a while then realised the error of their ways and settled down to be a decent person?
I reckon quite a few of you know some people like that, maybe some of you know people who have had mental problems for a while but are fine now.
Wouldn't it be a tradegy if those people were now dead?
Every dead body is someones son or daughter, possibly someones dad or mother.
We will never know what that man wanted, he may have just wanted some cash, he may have just wanted to let off some steam, and obviously he may have wanted to kill her and her baby. but we will never know because he is dead.
Most people on CM seem to back the idea that killing anyone who threatens you, or your family or even just your property deserves to die but try for one second to imagine that it is your son or daughter lying dead in a pool of blood, still happy?

Clearly, those two jumped their tracks long ago. I do not care who he was, what his lost potential was, or what he wanted. It is obvious he wanted that which was not his to take. They were a threat and menace to society, and at least one got their just due. That moronic deviant rightly lost his right to a future, when he made himself a threat to hers, and her child.

I have no patience, nor make excuses, for violators of this nature. Their parents failed them, and they failed themselves, long ago. It is not my job to bring up your errant child, teach him right from wrong, accede to, or become victim of, his disease and lack of boundaries and social conscience, or clean up his mess. If you produce a wild and dangerous child or dog, it is MY job to protect myself/my property from him/it. PERIOD! And don't come crying to me about your pain, afterwards. You reap what you sow!

That anyone would attempt to feel sorry for them/theirs, or guilt trip me over such a thing is of great concern, and I seriously question their stability and the setting of their moral compass. One only gets so many chances in this life, and allowing, and apologizing, for such bad, anti-social is disturbing, at best.

I am a mother of sons. I agree fully with Duskypearls.
Force your way unwelcome into my home, proceed to in any way threaten or steal from me and mine, and yes, 1) you DO give up your personal rights and yes, 2) I will shoot you.

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I am a mother of sons. I agree fully with Duskypearls.

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster
I am not saying if this women was right or wrong but has anyone ever had a kid or heard of a kid who went off the rails for a while then realised the error of their ways and settled down to be a decent person?
I reckon quite a few of you know some people like that, maybe some of you know people who have had mental problems for a while but are fine now.
Wouldn't it be a tradegy if those people were now dead?
Every dead body is someones son or daughter, possibly someones dad or mother.

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On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat down; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ
I am a mother of sons. I agree fully with Duskypearls.

Ah - now that *does* show some moral courage! Most people here are plainly thinking of other people - with other mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and partners - when they're considering burglars and what they'd do to them. But if you'd accept the righteousness of your own son being shot for attempting a break-in, that's quite different.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
NO. My parents looked at me like I was a fucking moron and said "I TOLD you that would hurt....now go get me a switch"

Now, not so much.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
NO. My parents looked at me like I was a fucking moron and said "I TOLD you that would hurt....now go get me a switch"

Now, not so much.

so, Hilly... how many switches did you have to go fetch in your wild and crazy youth???

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
NO. My parents looked at me like I was a fucking moron and said "I TOLD you that would hurt....now go get me a switch"

Now, not so much.

so, Hilly... how many switches did you have to go fetch in your wild and crazy youth???

Quite a few tj...

I'm tellin ya "Go get me a switch" is a hell of a mind fuck.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Maybe the different opinions here have something to do with the way different generations were raised.

My generation was told ONCE not to do something because it was dangerous or painful or generally stupid.

After that, If I was stupid enough to stick a paperclip or screwdriver in an electric socket and get shocked, was I cuddled and coddled as I cried out in pain?

NO. My parents looked at me like I was a fucking moron and said "I TOLD you that would hurt....now go get me a switch"

Now, not so much.

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ORIGINAL: Rule

The moral of the parable? To evolve as a species, we must not spare the bad eggs.