Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion

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sexylittleminx -> Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:07:44 AM)
It's not being naughty it's called free will - don't get me wrong I know some women like being told what to do hey so do I well sometimes anyway - but when I speak out of turn as Iwas told I should know when to stay quiet sorry can't know what I likes and likes what I know..... But I would liketo hear opinions and veiws

cuddleheart50 -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:11:11 AM)
What?

angelface183 -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:11:19 AM)
Not all men want women to keep their mouths closed. I come from a long line of intelligent and verbose women and we all have had men who loved and appreciated us. My Master loves to hear my opinions and ideas. He may tell me to make a long story short, but he enjoys my enthusiasm.

GentelMasterD -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:12:41 AM)
I for one enjoy a lady who will speak her mind, when a issue or problem aries!!! Any relationship, even in a bdsm one, need good comunication between two people to work. There is a time and a place to bring stuff up. It sounds to me like you know the right time and place!!!

Tikkiee -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:13:31 AM)
I am unclear as to what you are actually complaining about, but I think I have the gist of it. Some men find aggressive, and intelligent women a threat. For myself, if a man can not reconcile the fact that I am intelligent, and that I have a mind of my own; then he's not worth knowing in the first place. Now granted, there have been times that I have not spoken up about something that I felt strongly about, but circumstances at those times called for silence more than voice. You just have to judge for yourself the correct time to assert, and the correct time to step back.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:20:54 AM)
Did your number come up on the counter? If not then it wasn't your turn to talk. LOL To interject your opinion into a conversation without excusing yourself or being invited into said conversation in certain circles is considered rude. If you act in a rude manner expect a rude response.

givemyall -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:26:40 AM)
Gemma - it's my house later for a beer and an ENGLISH LESSON! lol.... think its a great question though!

sexylittleminx -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:29:29 AM)
O thanks hun but im still recovering from the last ENGLISH LESSON and my arse is still sore - mmmm but the beer is a nice idea lol.

Skuggi -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:29:48 AM)
Ahemm - I would like to know a bit more - and from the Dominating females acutally - since I belive they can better judge if sexylittleminx is rude or not. A male dom saying it's rude for a woman to speak their mind is like a male dom telling other dominating people he's the only real deal!

HollyS -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:30:54 AM)
You aren't terribly clear about your question, but it sounds like you spoke your mind and someone got upset. All I can say to that is that most problems with communication involve how the information is presented. Timing, tone of voice, choice of words and physical demeanor while speaking all have a huge effect on whether what you say will be heard by the listener. Anyone can "speak their mind." It's the thoughtful people who get their positions heard. If you want what you say to be understood, respected and considered you need to look at the entire picture of your attitude during presentation. Otherwise you'll be talking to a brick wall. ~Holly

feastie -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:32:11 AM)
Speaking your mind is fine, I think. I think it just is how you do it that might be the problem. And yanno, sometimes, it's better to just shut up and let him find out you were right and he was wrong. [:D]

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:33:22 AM)
Obviously, women, like children, should only speak when spoken to. Get those shoes off your feet and get back in the kitchen. Where's my dinner? Taggard (Obviously, I am kidding.)

Sunshine119 -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:36:02 AM)
Hmmmm.....considering the relationship I have with Him has frequent philosophical, political and theological debates, I'd have to say that there are Dominants that love knowing they are dominating an intellegent, strong willed and opinionated woman. What are you referring to when you state "speaking out of turn"?

sexylittleminx -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:37:04 AM)
Rude me well only on weekends anyway........ Maybe it was me and my fault but is speaking your mind wrong? Well I don't think so and im not painting everyone with the same brush.. But some off them just think as im young that it's easy to be that way, well it's not after all I have the best teacher going and she does give her all

Tikkiee -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:39:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexylittleminx Rude me well only on weekends anyway........ Maybe it was me and my fault but is speaking your mind wrong? Well I don't think so and im not painting everyone with the same brush.. But some off them just think as im young that it's easy to be that way, well it's not after all I have the best teacher going and she does give her all I mean no disrespect ma'am, but as stated; alot has to do with *HOW* your opinion was stated, not whether or not you spoke at all. [;)]

Skuggi -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:41:07 AM)
It's not about speaking - it's about writing - and if submissive persons cannot write their mind here - then the people who call themselfs "dominating" should get a lessen from someone who can teach them mannors....this is an open forum and if you expect to be heard as a dom and respected, you bloody well better start showing all people respect, not just dom people, but submissive also.

Fawne -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:41:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tikkiee there have been times that I have not spoken up about something that I felt strongly about, but circumstances at those times called for silence more than voice. You just have to judge for yourself the correct time to assert, and the correct time to step back. Tikkiee: well said, thank you. Sometimes it is the timing or tone of voice. Displaying an attitude that is seen as disrespectful. After all, we were raised on planet earth in what we call modern times.... ya know the drill. Working on self control and phrasing, myself. PS some of us do not have "free will". Much too esoteric a thought... [;)] Take care, fawne

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:44:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexylittleminx But some off them just think as im young that it's easy to be that way, well it's not after all I have the best teacher going and she does give her all For some reason, I just can't get the sound of Julie Andrews' voice doing her best Eliza Doolittle cockney accent when I read this... If you sound anything like that, I would find it strangely and quite disturbingly (at least to me) arrousing... Sorry...been spending too much time on the boards this morning... Taggard

RavenMuse -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:45:33 AM)
There is a diffrence between "Speaking out of turn" or being a 'brat' and being able to share your opinions with your Master. My girl knows she isn't just 'allowed' to share her opinions with me, she is 'expected' to. As her Master I have a responcibility to BOTH sides of the relationship, how can I fullfill that responcibility without knowing her thoughts, needs, wants and opinions? Any single decision maybe down to me, she has submitted her control to me, but she is still a person and those come with thoughts/wants/needs of their own.

sexylittleminx -> RE: Why is it men don't like women who speak there mind and when we have an opinion (6/3/2006 10:48:23 AM)
(It's not about speaking - it's about writing - and if submissive persons cannot write their mind here - then the people who call themselfs "dominating" should get a lessen from someone who can teach them mannors....this is an open forum and if you expect to be heard as a dom and respected, you bloody well better start showing all people respect, not just dom people, but submissive also.) And I hope that wasn't aimed at me after all my profile says submissive and I have respect for thoses who give it what sort of person do you think I am don't worrie my mother did bring me up well - in which case it leaves me to belive you have the respect problems maybe you find it hard to give it if your not getting it.

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