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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 1:16:32 PM   
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Ah, see? Now that's Calvinism, not Christianity.


Have you not heard of the expression Almighty God? Anyway, having attained enlightenment I can cope with the contradictions better than most. The problem is you have yet to attain enlightenment. You, on the other hand, are likely saying to yourself, "Ick! Why would I want that?"

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 1:38:30 PM   
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White magick involves agreeable things. It is deceptive in that things which are agreeable need not be true.


Black magick has the same problem since it too involves agreeable things. It is deceptive in that things which are agreeable need not be true. Gray magick is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for truth. So the mere fact that you practice gray magick does not mean that you serve truth. It could simply mean that you are willing to switch sides according to whatever suits you; hence, the practice of gray magick can also involve things that are agreeable. The practice of magick is replete with opportunities for self-deception. The means to achieve results has little to do with truth.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 1:49:24 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 1:54:49 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:00:20 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:05:19 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:16:00 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:33:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those who worship nature can adhere to a weak form of non-atheism, however, via the acknowledgement of a Creator. Hence, nature worship is not atheism in a strict sense. White men who have embraced nature worship are generally speaking atheists in a strict sense.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:36:03 PM   
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What GotSteel is saying is I do not like it, it is therefore false.


No I'm pointing out that things that are false are false. Sorry to burst your bubble but as it turns out witches are not the cause of plagues.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:50:22 PM   
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I kind of had respect for professed atheists. I thought they were intellectuals who sought objective truth, but what I find are people who want to believe something only because it is agreeable to them. It is better to have an inconvenient faith that is true, than one that is convenient and false. Falsehood takes you straight to perdition.


I think it's better to learn about inconvenient knowledge rather than deny it and embrace convenient falsehoods.

And here's the real kicker once things like biology, geology, astronomy logic, secular morality, etc. are actually comprehended it turns out that they aren't at all inconvenient. They actually work better and make way more sense than their superstitious counterparts.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:52:05 PM   
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In other words according to atheism God and nature are one and the same.


Nope, you're positions made of fail.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/18/2012 2:52:41 PM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 3:06:55 AM   
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Hard to understand why chicks aren't into you.


Men who are not materialistic do not make good providers.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 3:11:54 AM   
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Sorry to burst your bubble but as it turns out witches are not the cause of plagues.


The underlying mechanisms for the witch hunts continue to live with us today. So I do not know what you are talking about.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 3:18:27 AM   
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And here's the real kicker once things like biology, geology, astronomy logic, secular morality, etc. are actually comprehended it turns out that they aren't at all inconvenient.


What you are talking about is known as magick. The process in which we evaluate whether a thing is good or evil has little to do with the means to do it.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 4:00:11 AM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 4:27:00 AM   
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I wonder what ET would say about Jesus???

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 5:46:48 AM   
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And here's the real kicker once things like biology, geology, astronomy logic, secular morality, etc. are actually comprehended it turns out that they aren't at all inconvenient.


What you are talking about is known as magick.

No...no it's not, no one else knows that.  When you use the word magick to represent things like logic the rest of us often aren't able to understand what you're talking about and your posts end up sounding like mental illness. I strongly advise you not to use personal redefinitions of words. It seriously breaks the process of communication and renders it impossible for you to get your point across.

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The process in which we evaluate whether a thing is good or evil has little to do with the means to do it.

Decoupling morality from reality is one of the reasons why Christian morality was historically and is out of whack with reality and why so many Christians have resorted to using secular humanism as their source of morality.

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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 8:27:48 AM   
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RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism - 3/19/2012 9:25:30 AM   
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I strongly advise you not to use personal redefinitions of words.

Decoupling morality from reality is one of the reasons why Christian morality was historically and is out of whack with reality ... .


You should be in my opinion disciplined by the forum administration (Losers tend to get aggressive), but to address some of your points.

Personal redefinition of words? Google magick. Magick is either technology or it is a term to describe a more general concept.

What you offered is opinion. My views are plausible when you consider the possibility that we exist in a multiverse. No one has ever been able to disprove the existence of the metaphysical. It is an on going debate.

My views are based on ideas that are ancient which implies that they are indeed consistent with common sense.

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