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Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 5:30:31 PM   
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-mississippi-abortion-issue-20120406,0,4316068.story?track=lat-pick

Oh, that's right. They're still not happy that their slaves are free. So it's not surprising how they feel about woman's rights, is it?

And again, these "I continue to believe that every life begins at conception" retards don't even know enough science to know that the egg and sperm are both alive BEFORE conception. Fucking morons.

Anti-Family-Planning, because Family Planning gives women freedom.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 5:53:03 PM   
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I'm guessing no women vote in Mississippi or supported HB1390 huh?

BTW... having a regulation that would require all doctors who perform abortions in an "abortion facility" to have admitting privileges at a local hospital, and to be board-certified in obstetrics and gynecology, is very reasonable.


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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 5:56:16 PM   
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I'm guessing no women vote in Mississippi or supported HB1390 huh?

BTW... having a regulation that would require all doctors who perform abortions in an "abortion facility" to have admitting privileges at a local hospital, and to be board-certified in obstetrics and gynecology, is very reasonable.




Did you read the part about how hospitals rarely give admitting privileges to out of state doctors, and most of the doctors in the clinic live outside the state for their own safety?
But the "pro-life," set would rather women use coat hangers than go to an abortion clinic...

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:05:11 PM   
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And again, these "I continue to believe that every life begins at conception" retards don't even know enough science to know that the egg and sperm are both alive BEFORE conception.



I think most understand that the sperm and egg are both alive before conception. They're just using the word "life" in a different context. I don't think I would be willing to say I was "alive" before I was conceived, but would say I was alive after. That's a distinct difference in meaning from a group of cells being alive.

But yeah...my mother, grandmother, aunt, two cousins, half sister, and fiance are all anti-abortion. Somehow I suspect it's not because they "hate women."

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:08:44 PM   
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Did you read the part about how hospitals rarely give admitting privileges to out of state doctors, and most of the doctors in the clinic live outside the state for their own safety?
But the "pro-life," set would rather women use coat hangers than go to an abortion clinic...


Hmmm... I am reading about murders in Pensacola FL, Brookline, MA, Birmingham AL, Amherst, NY, Wichita KN, but not Mississippi


Anti-abortion violence United States

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:11:46 PM   
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But the "pro-life," set would rather women use coat hangers than go to an abortion clinic...



Actually I have a suspicion that the "pro-life" set would rather that particular use of coat hangers be as equally illegal as they want abortion clinics to be.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:19:53 PM   
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I'm guessing no women vote in Mississippi or supported HB1390 huh?

BTW... having a regulation that would require all doctors who perform abortions in an "abortion facility" to have admitting privileges at a local hospital, and to be board-certified in obstetrics and gynecology, is very reasonable.




Did you read the part about how hospitals rarely give admitting privileges to out of state doctors, and most of the doctors in the clinic live outside the state for their own safety?
But the "pro-life," set would rather women use coat hangers than go to an abortion clinic...


Don't call them "Pro-Life". EVERYONE is Pro-Life except Darkseid. He's very Anti-Life.

They're Anti-Family-Planning. And they hate family planning because it gives women freedom.

Consider that they aren't happy about the slaves being set free, and consider how they feel about 'their women'?

Fucking savages.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:25:35 PM   
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Polls in recent years have shown nearly 50% of women identify as "pro-life".

I'm sure it must be because they hate women and don't want them to have any freedom.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:26:33 PM   
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Did you read the part about how hospitals rarely give admitting privileges to out of state doctors, and most of the doctors in the clinic live outside the state for their own safety?
But the "pro-life," set would rather women use coat hangers than go to an abortion clinic...


Hmmm... I am reading about murders in Pensacola FL, Brookline, MA, Birmingham AL, Amherst, NY, Wichita KN, but not Mississippi


Anti-abortion violence United States



So we have to wait for violence to fear?

http://www.salon.com/2006/08/01/mississippi_7/

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:33:34 PM   
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Polls in recent years have shown nearly 50% of women identify as "pro-life".

I'm sure it must be because they hate women and don't want them to have any freedom.


It's because of the dishonest branding. "Pro-Life" is a joke. EVERYONE is PRO-LIFE. So, asking if you're Pro-Life doesn't say ANYTHING about Family Planning.

And all the people hiding behind the Pro-Life label ( not the innocent respondents to the poll confused by the Anti-Family-Planners duplicity ) are Anti-Family-Planning.

And the only reason to oppose Family Planning is because you hate the idea of woman taking control of their own lives.

The Anti-Family-Planners FIRST LIE: "Life begins at conception"... Fucking laughable. As if life isn't a continuum and the egg and sperm are dead or something.

And everything else they say is predicated on that lie.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:35:18 PM   
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Polls in recent years have shown nearly 50% of women identify as "pro-life".

I'm sure it must be because they hate women and don't want them to have any freedom.


You may want to rethink that...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:42:48 PM   
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Rethink what?

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:47:15 PM   
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Rethink the entire poll being based on dishonest starting assumptions, namely that "Pro-Life" is a valid position.

EVERYONE is Pro-Life. I'm as pro-life as you are. As is the next random person. It's a dishonest framing of the issue.

Those who advocate that woman should have unfettered access to complete family planning services, including abortion, on demand are Pro-Family-Planning.

Those who advocate that woman should NOT have unfettered access to complete family planning services, including abortion, on demand are Anti-Family-Planning.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:50:59 PM   
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Rethink what?


The actual numbers.





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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:55:42 PM   
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The actual numbers fit quite well with what I said.

I even showed the graph showing 49% of women being polled as pro-life on the most recent one shown.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 6:56:54 PM   
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Stop this "Pro-Life" nonsense. It makes you look like a fool who has no idea about biological science.

Those who advocate that woman should have unfettered access to complete family planning services, including abortion, on demand are Pro-Family-Planning.

Those who advocate that woman should NOT have unfettered access to complete family planning services, including abortion, on demand are Anti-Family-Planning.


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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 7:02:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000

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adj.
Advocating the legal protection of human embyos and fetuses, especially by favoring the outlawing of abortion on the ground that it is the taking of a human life.

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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 7:04:55 PM   
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In my experience there are three types of folks on this issue. I call them pro-choice, pro-life, and anti-abortion. Why the distinction? Well...
Imagine a 17 year old girl in your church gets pregnant, and you are in a church (such as the catholic church) that opposes abortion being legal. Ask yourself how you treat that girl.
In my experience, a lot of folks in conservative parts of the world (or Alaska at least) treat that girl very badly. They make her life miserable. Of course, if she gets an abortion before they find out, then they don't treat her badly at all.
So if these folks are going to reward a girl for having an abortion, and punish her for having a baby, why do they oppose abortion? Because they don't want to reward her for the abortion, they want to punish her for the sex!
Pro-life folks generally make exceptions for rape and incest, and are willing to feel sorry for a girl who feels she needs an abortion, they oppose it, but won't try to demonize the girl.
Anti-abortion folks want to make the girl a "slut," "harlot," "sinner," etc.
I say this from experience with close female friends in the Alaska Catholic and Baptist churches, and what they told me about their experiences.
If I was a girl in one of these churches and I got pregnant, I'd find a clinic, a coat hanger, or if I couldn't do either, just hang myself, that is how vicious these folks are.


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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 7:08:22 PM   
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Your dictionary is broken. What's it got for the opposite of "Pro-Life", which is, of course "Anti-Life"?

Stop hiding behind your dishonest framing and be honest. If you oppose unfettered access to woman's healthcare services, including abortion, on demand, just SAY IT HONESTLY. You're Anti-Family-Planning. Say it Loud and Say it Proud!

Or are you ashamed to 'come out of the closet' with your opposition to unfettered access to woman's healthcare services, including abortion, on demand?



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RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? - 4/6/2012 7:10:52 PM   
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I am assuming in all your years of medical training you know how much is actually involved in an abortion.

In my professional opinion, I would say your over-estimation of your personal medical knowledge may fit the Dunning-Kruger effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Are you even aware in the world (hundreds of miles farther than your local Walmart), the millions of medical treatments are done by non-doctors, even abortion (often because of "good-willed" laws restricting freedoms ofr women). http://weblife.org/pdf/where_there_is_no_doctor.pdf


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BTW... having a regulation that would require all doctors who perform abortions in an "abortion facility" to have admitting privileges at a local hospital, and to be board-certified in obstetrics and gynecology, is very reasonable.



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