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yummee -> RE: Go Fuck Yourself, Mississippi. Why do you hate women? (4/8/2012 5:18:51 PM)
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Extremists on both sides are moving the goalposts further and further. The pro-life movement has been around since the mid to late 60's. Many pro-life organizations allowed exceptions then and still coined the term "pro life." the SBC, for instance, definitely pro-life
"Resolution On Abortion, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1971:
WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and
WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a purely private matter between a woman and her doctor; and
WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;
Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and
Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother"
Since then, they have tightened the noose until, about 10 years later, the single remaining exception was if the fetus was a threat to the physical life of the mother.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/baptist/sbcabres.html
Roman Catholics have been back and forth
"Many religions, including many denominations within Christianity, have adopted the general principle that abortion is a form of murder if it is performed at or after the time that a soul enters the body of an embryo or fetus. Down through the ages, beliefs varied about when this "animation" happened.
Various church authorities and popes placed the time at:
At a specific time into pregnancy (40 days, 80 days, 116 days), or
Quickening (when the woman first feels the fetus move), or
At conception.
The latter is the current church teaching.
The Catholic Church has consistently taught that abortion -- at any stage of development -- is evil. However, its stance has changed down through the years on whether a given abortion is murder. " (http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist_c.htm)
Apparently, there have been periods of time that the RC Church has not even made an exception for the mother's life
"Pope Pius IX (1869) dropped the distinction between the "fetus animatus" and "fetus inanimatus." The soul was believed to have entered the pre-embryo at conception.
Leo XIII (1878-1903):
He Issued a decree in 1884 that prohibited craniotomies. This is an unusual form of abortion used under crisis situations late in pregnancy. It is occasionally needed to save the life of the pregnant woman.
He issued a second degree in 1886 that prohibited all procedures that directly killed the fetus, even if done to save the woman's life."
Now, they are back to the exception to spare the mother's life.
Even Pat Robertson allows for self defense and only condemns his definition of murder. (Apparently, state sanctioned executions are not murder, self defense is not murder, and China's forced abortions are not worth interfering with).
The definition of pro choice that I am most familiar with is more like this one:
"A comprehensive pro-choice position affirms that all of the following must remain legal:
Celibacy and abstinence ;
Contraception use ;
Emergency contraception use ;
Abortion, for the first two trimesters of pregnancy ; and
Childbirth." (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/tp/Pro-Life-vs-Pro-Choice.htm)
This discussion is the first time I have ever heard that Pro-choice means "for any reason whatsoever" and pro-life means "for no reason whatsoever."
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