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RE: A serious question - 6/4/2006 10:35:02 PM

misfire

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I'm gonna have to jump in the fray and echo everyone else's sentiments. You need help -- help your Master cannot provide. (Unless, of course, your Master's a psychiatrist, but therapy with him might be a conflict of interest.. still wouldn't be a good idea.) If he's seriously denying you help, you need to realise something.

Your life is worth more than your collar, and you need to get out, get help, and get well.

There's always a way to get help -- I used to make excuses and avoid getting help for my own issues, but saying you can't find a way to a clinic or talk to a therapist or get somewhere to be voluntarily committed is pretty unlikely -- unless you live in some bumfuck little town.

I'm a little older than you, and honey, I've been there. I didn't want to get out of bed in the mornings -- I'd sleep 18 hours a day, if I could get away with it. I fell into a nasty cycle of self-injury and suicide attempts, and for the longest time, I didn't think I'd live to see 21.

But you know what? Things change. Things get better. Whatever's got you so down is gonna seem so petty in a few years, and you're gonna look back and you're gonna be so happy. A change is gonna come, honey, and you'll be there to see it.

So get out and get some help. It'll be the best thing you'll ever do for yourself.

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RE: A serious question - 6/4/2006 10:39:53 PM

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owned and collared: All of the advice you received is basically sound. you must get help, and get it fast.

I would not advise you to run away from your Master, as in your profile you seem to be happy. I think you have overwhelmed him with your desire to have your life ended, and he doesn't know where to turn.

miss, if this helps from a Master/slave ethical perspective: you are a valuable piece of property. Maybe the most valuable thing He owns. If you really do love Him, and you are really a slave (and I will accept that both are true) then your DUTY as a slave is first and foremost to preserve His property. So I challenge you, miss -- preserve your life as an obligation to your Master. Make something greater of yourself. I know you can. Look around at the vibrant, strong, loving submissive women you see on these boards, and realize what you can be. If you are a slave to your very core, your soul, you will seek help to become better for Him, and not coincidentally for you.

Good luck, miss.

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RE: A serious question - 6/4/2006 10:41:34 PM

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Owned, there are many times that people dont understand why another would want to end thier own lives. What ever the reasons maybe. It can break your heart when those that you expect to grasp your reasoning, dont even want to try. There can be anger, there can be disappointment, there can be a multitude of reactions. But as others have said, you dont seem to be quite at the final stages. You are still reaching. While you still have that desire, go beyond him if you have to. I know that you dont want to, but darlin nothing nothing in this world is worth your life. Please dont let guilt or fear be a deterring factor. I know it is scary. Just try.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 12:15:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

quote:

There IS the other side of the pit. You CAN reach it. And you want to reach it, or you wouldn't be asking for help. The issue is, you don't see the other side yet, so all you know is that you want the pain to end...and now. But it does end. It takes work but life can be beautiful. I know to be true - I'm on that other side now.

Owned, this is beautiful. Your Master is very lucky to have you and your family is very lucky to have you here as well. I'm glad you decided to keep going.

Thank you MoGa. What wonderful words to express. I am lucky to have them, as they saved my life. The ugly past does not have to dictate the future. It is my history, but it must be kept as history. I do hope the OP gets the help she needs.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 1:55:20 AM

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I agree with ownedgirlie that your dom probably isn't able to handle the situation. It's not that he's uncaring, but out of his depth and maybe scared himself which he handles by denial. Also there's a misconception summarized by someone else on CM that those with depression emjoy 'wallowing' in their misery.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Seek help as everyone has advised.

As far as disobeying, look at it this way: Wouldn't ending your life be the ultimate disappointment to your man? So wouldn't seeking help be a lesser 'sin', so to speak?

You are very young, still near the bottom of the experience hill. You can't yet see what help and wisdom will bring you.

Live long. Seek help.

Most towns have crisis help lines. There may even be help resources on-line as well.

Good luck.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 3:33:33 AM

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All in all, I would agree with the general concensus. You need to seek help. It would be best if your master supported you in this, but I can see many reasons why he might not. As others have suggested, it could be that he is simply incapable of handling the situation, or it could be that he feels threatened at the possibility of losing you. It could be that he feels that a vehement denial will force you to put these thoughts out of your mind. It could also be that he has had past experiences with friends or lovers who have threatened to kill themselves as a ploy for attention or sympathy. I've had a few of those, and it gets pretty old very quickly.

I WOULD offer one caveat in regard to seeking professional help: Make sure that the person you approach is BDSM friendly. There are a lot of mental health professionals who will attempt to separate you from your master, rather than attempting to counsel you as a couple. Very often, kink-friendly professionals will advertise with local groups or on community web pages, but if not, ask around. I would not be at all surprised if you could get a good reccomendation. BDSM attracts a wide variety of people, in almost every field and profession.

I really hope that you can find the help you need, and that your master has the strength to stand by you as you get it. Good luck.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 4:06:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave?? No wonder you are depressed and want to die. You have no car, no choices, no nothing. Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a *person* first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering *yourself* before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age. Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master".

I couldnt agree more there is liveing this life and then there is giveing your life up this man is no Master. a real Master doesnt have a slave that gives her own identaty up. A person that does that aparently is suffering and needs to deal with whatever psyc problems they have and reavalutate their slave selfs. the sheer fact he wont help you with beeing suasidle shows he is no Master a real Master would have you in counsaling. You are a child be a child you have your entire life to be a slave

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 4:13:34 AM

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ownedandcollared,

1: you say in your profile that you are very happy many times .
2: you say in your profile that you and your Master are looking for a sister slave .
3: we are only hearing your side, Not your Masters .

Now I will say this to you . You are 19 , at your age you do not know alto about life and what it brings . I have seen your kind of actions many times in this life and in this life style .
Now comes this . I know that many people on here are not going to like what I am going to say but this is what I feel .
I think you as many subs/slave do , are doing the " Oh pity me thing " . This is not the way one does this . If you relay wanted top die you would not be here telling us about it . I know that sounds harsh but Tis true .
Do you need help ? Yes .
At your age I was in Vietnam seeing death every day . I am still here . There are many out there that are worse of then you . They are still here .

I will not say any thing of your Master due to the fact that we are only hearing your side .

I will say this to you girl , GET IT TOGETHER " . You are talking of suicide ,Well most that want to get this done do not talk of it . Yes I agree you need help . But that comes from with in . There is nothing you are going to make any better by doing what you are talking . If only to make all that are concerned with you and about you feel worse. So stop winning and get on with life .

Note : I know there are going to be people on here that get down on me for this post , but the truth always hurts .

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 4:55:25 AM

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Ownedandcollared...

Depression is a condition for which there is help. Aside from therapy, which you do need, there are also medications that can help alleviate your symptoms. Not so many years ago, I suffered my own depression. I had thoughts of suicide and the only thing that kept me from it was the fact that I have children. I suffered silently for three years, all alone. I never sought help. I never told my family. No one can see you cry in the shower. I cried in the shower almost every day. It took me three years to pull myself out of that place.

I don't have your past and I don't have your present. But I can tell you that you do need help. I wish I'd been strong enough to get help when I needed it. Your master chooses not to believe you're having problems for whatever reason. Whenever a person admits she is having thoughts of suicide, it must be taken seriously. You may be a total slave, but you are not without resources.

From a website:

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Some people will react badly to your suicidal feelings, either because they are frightened, or angry; they may actually increase your pain instead of helping you, despite their intentions, by saying or doing thoughtless things. You have to understand that their bad reactions are about their fears, not about you.
But there are people out there who can be with you in this horrible time, and will not judge you, or argue with you, or send you to a hospital, or try to talk you out of how badly you feel. They will simply care for you. Find one of them. Now. Use your 24 hours, or your week, and tell someone what’s going on with you. It is okay to ask for help. Try:

Send an anonymous e-mail to The Samaritans

Call 1-800-SUICIDE in the U.S.

Teenagers, call Covenant House NineLine, 1-800-999-9999

Look in the front of your phone book for a crisis line

Call a psychotherapist

Carefully choose a friend or a minister or rabbi, someone who is likely to listen
But don’t give yourself the additional burden of trying to deal with this alone. Just talking about how you got to where you are, releases an awful lot of the pressure, and it might be just the additional coping resource you need to regain your balance.

This is taken from this website: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

Call one of the numbers listed. Care for yourself. Don't be stupid like I was and not get help for whatever reasons. Get help. This is something you must do for yourself. The rules of slavery do not apply here. Only the rules of being human apply here.

Email me on the other side, if you like. We'll talk.

feastie

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 5:00:03 AM

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Okkkk...something just does not add up here. It states in your profile that you are very,very happy with your master, you are looking for a sister slave to add. It also states in your lists that you live for: True Crime and Writing.....then scrolling down even more it states that you are only curious about polyamory. None of this post makes sense. I know that i am going to get the posts on this one............but here goes.
How selfish and cowardly of you to want to die. If this is indeed true, you would not be here telling a mass of people that you do not know. There is NOTHING in this world, past or otherwise that is worth dying for. You want to know what dying is little girl? it's when your best friend suddenly takes her own life when not one person knew there was anything wrong............it is when you walk into your boyfriends home and he shoots himself in front of you, when again, no one knew there was anything wrong. THAT is dying.
To this day i have never forgotten this, and to this day i think how selfish and cowardly they were for not living.
"Life is to short, if you are not having fun, you are doing it wrong"

On another note. If by chance this is a cry for help. Take what was written before my post by others. You asked for advice....now you got it.....just go! and stop giving yourself excuses.

This may be harsh, but i WISH i would have been able to say this to the one's i lost.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 6:14:35 AM

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i've been there. i've been hospitalized for it (twice), and my Master has been infinitely patient with me and my recovery from self injury, eating disorders, and severe depression.

i can also attest that there IS another side to this. It doesn't last forever if you get help, i promise. Right now, you want to die to feel relief. You don't want to feel this way anymore, you want it all to go away...but keep this in mind:

You cannot feel relief if you are dead.

Please...you may love and respect your Master very much, but He is not seeing to your very basic needs. The will to live IS a basic need, and if you've lost it, then He is not doing His job. Seek help, disobey Him, walk, catch a bus, call a friend...SOMETHING, so you can get the help you deserve. Realize also that a true Master would not disregard the feelings of His slave, if she is hurting and her life is in danger.

If nothing else, i'd like to give you a link. Please click it, read it, bookmark it if you can. Back when i was very close to taking my own life, this webpage actually helped me realize just how selfish it is, and it gave me hope.

http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

Please let U/us know how you're doing. While some on here may not understand and may not be as sensitive to what you are feeling right now, please know that T/they likely have the best of intentions.

Do what is right for yourself. Take care, and be blessed.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 6:33:43 AM

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then you need to pick up a phone and call a crisis center and they will take care of the arrangements for you you need to discuss these things with someone who will listen and someone who is willing to help you DO IT NOW!

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 6:59:32 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442
. You are 19 , at your age you do not know alto about life and what it brings . I have seen your kind of actions many times in this life and in this life style .

Oh good grief, no wonder youngsters go off on their own and don't get the benefit of their elders. It's amazing I'm not more jaded than I am about the scene.

She doesn't need to know a lot "about life." She knows about her life and what it's been.

Your master has told you that you aren't allowed to end your life. That takes care of that problem.

Now, go get good therapy so you can deal with what is causing you to want you to end your life.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 8:31:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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if i were Yours, what would You want me to do?

If you were mine, I would drive you to the nearest crisis center and hand you over to them. You are in deep need of help little one and I will tell you right now, if the only reason you are alive today is to please your Master, and no other reason, then you need to be in a lock unit where they can keep you on suicide watch. This is nothing to fool around with. Please, if your Master wont take you, then get in your car, call a cab, call a friend, whatever it takes, go to the ER. They will help you. Don't hesitate. Do this right away.

Virtualy word for word what I was about to say.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 8:34:00 AM

candleTC

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Argh!!! Seems I lost everything I just posted due to a server timeout. :( So, I shall try this again, hopefully relaying some what of the same sentiments I had previous typed. ( saving to notepad this time )

It's very rare that I am given permission to comment on such heated discussions and ones that hit me so close to home. Having a tendency to get overly emotional, I can understand why. With that being said, I have been given permission to comment on some of what has been said, thus far. My comments at this point, being directed to Marie.

quote:

If you read her post carefully, the reason she feels she cant get help is because her "Master" (lifestyle choice related) doesnt feel she needs help.

quote:

am an owned and collared slave. i live and serve my Master. He is wonderful, and i love Him very much. The problem, basically, is that i deeply want to die. i've tried to discuss this with Him, but He just gets mad and tells me that He doesn't want to hear it, which leaves me basically alone and doesn't change anything at all.

Marie, where does it state that her Master doesn't feel like she needs help?? I didn't notice that anywhere in her post. He has probably been blindsided by this behavior and is at a loss as much as she is. It's quite possible that He just doesn't know what to do. It's quite possible that He is just not mentally or emotionally equipped to handling this type of thing. No where does it say that He doesn't feel like she needs help.

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And her "Master (lifestyle choice related) wont let her take transportation.

quote:

i am a total slave...i can't take anything on myself. Permission, transportation etc.

Once again, no where does it state that "He won't let her". Being a total slave, means just that. Means that she has given up certain things that we may take for granted everyday. Being a total slave means that she may not have the know how to do certain things, i.e driving a car or boarding a bus or even where to go once she ascertains said transportation. This has nothing to do with "He won't let her." This is purely being a slave.

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And her "Master"(lifestyle choice related) has her so convinced that he knows whats best for her that she doesnt feel she has the right or the freedom (lifestyle choice related) to go and get herself help.

Wow. This is a judgment if I have ever seen one. How do you know how her Master feels? How do you know how her Master has made her feel. Are you in constant contact with her Master on a daily basis. Is there some information that we don't know that you may be willing to share. Careful with the words you say and the thoughts and words you put in others mouths.

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You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave??

I am not really sure where the age thing comes into play. Having been born into the "lifestyle", I am certain that being 19 has nothing to do with any life decision. I can attest to the fact, that having the desire to serve begins at a very young age. I was searching for your profile, Marie, wondering how old you were when you began your journey into the "lifestyle". ( couldn't find it )

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You have no car, no choices, no nothing. Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a *person* first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering *yourself* before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age.

Who is to say that she hasn't done these things, Marie. Who's to say that she hasn't lived outside the world of slavery. Who's to say that she has tried the "discovering herself" thing and this is just what she has discovered?? On the other hand, Who's to say that she doesn't haven't friends, or a career or an education or obtaining one? Once again, is there information that you know that the rest of us don't??

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[Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master". /quote]

Oh yes... Running from her Master... that seems to be the best idea, don't ya think? You have already convinced her and the rest of us that she depends on Him for everything. Running from Him, to go nowhere, yes, that's safe!!! * gah! * That's right, have her run to mom and dad where she can rely on them 100%... Oh.. but wait... maybe mom and dad are the reason she is feeling the way she is feeling.. maybe the mom and dad option is not the best option for her. Even, yet, maybe mom and dad, not only isn't the the best option.. but a non-exsistant option. Maybe mom and dad are dead?? Ya know, cemetaries are not the best place to hang out when you are suicidal... been there, done that. It's not good for the psyche at all.

Marie, it seems that you talk a lot on a subject that you know very little of. You have been given the same amount of information that we all have been given, just as much as the girl is willing to divulge. You, making judgement on her, isn't helpful.. and it's not nice. It's hindering her from making the decisions that she needs to make. Filling her head with, basically, her Master doesn't care, is not a mental place anyone would wish to take her.

ownedandcollared, allow me to offer a bit of my own advice... Go to your Master in an adult manner, expressing your desire and need to get help. Explain to Him that you need His help in finding the help you need, all the way down to the transportation. Explain to Him that you trust His judgement on who gives you this help and the timeframe in which it is to be administered. Going to Him in an adult manner shall get the result you desire. Any Master, would see this as an emergency, at this point, and seek help immediatly. If you go to Him, in tears, in a rant and express your desire to die, I'm afraid, it is then viewed as lashing out and not being serious. Talk to Him.
The rest of my conversation to you will be done via email, because I am starting to tread on some personal territory, which means, that this rant, is now...... over.

Nothing more to see here.

Be well

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 8:44:28 AM

candleTC

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quote:

ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo

You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave?? No wonder you are depressed and want to die. You have no car, no choices, no nothing. Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a *person* first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering *yourself* before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age. Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master".

I couldnt agree more there is liveing this life and then there is giveing your life up this man is no Master. a real Master doesnt have a slave that gives her own identaty up. A person that does that aparently is suffering and needs to deal with whatever psyc problems they have and reavalutate their slave selfs. the sheer fact he wont help you with beeing suasidle shows he is no Master a real Master would have you in counsaling. You are a child be a child you have your entire life to be a slave

And this coming from a 22 year old???? ack. As i stated before.... age has very little to do with this. I do not believe that at any point, you can put an age limit on the desires of a slave to serve. The main point here is, that she needs help, regardless of her status or age. The fact is, she is crying out for help.... the point is, there are things in her past that she is not able to shed. So, yes, her profile says she is happy.. is it not possible to be happy in her slavery but be unhappy within herself? Is it not possible to be very happy with her Master, yet still have the feeling that things are not right in her life. Is it possible that even seeing a bright future, it's impossible to move forward to the light at the end of the tunnel when the dark past has a hold on her?? Is it possible that the only way she feels to shake the demons that torment her is to just lay down and call it quits? Of course it's selfish.... suicide always is. Of course, it's a cowardly thing to do... However, sometimes, even when things look pretty on the outside, the inside is writhing in pain and misery. Does this make her words nonsence or un true... or her situation fake?? i don't think so. Does this mean that when she gets older that these feelings will just go away.... no, i don't think so. 19 or 49, slave/sub/nilla, i have seen people on both ends of the spectrum going through the same emotions. I can't stress, that getting help is crucial, enough.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 9:09:37 AM

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I agree with others here. PLEASE contact the nearest crisis center and see if there are any resources for counceling that are available to you.
If you have medical insurance then seek out a kink friendly councelor.
I /we do not know you so its really hard to help or give advice. The biggest issue I see here is that you "so called" Master does not care about YOU as a human being at all and is obviously just using you and not taking any responsibility. If anyone should be concerned its them.
I do know that most "councelors" will tell you that a Master/slave relationship is disfunctional and all he is doing is using and taking advantage of your difficultys. This maybe one of those cases I do not know and will not judge this. I do know that if you were my slave that your safety, and health would be the most important thing to me even over my safety and health ( Ask my slave I think she would agree with that).
I know that those who consider themselves "slaves" are people who desire and need to have that level of control, The concern here is that that control has to be appreciated and given the value that it deserves, It looks like from this end that you "Master" is not your "Master" but your keeper and you will have to become VERY non-slavish and stand up for yourself and seek the care that YOU need.
Do you have family ?? other local friends ?? a support structure where you can ask for help ??.
You ae obviously a very caring and giving person who is WAY WAY to important to be lost to the rest of this community and to society in general. You have fought long and hard., Just to give up.. NO you have a little more fight left in you cute one. PLEASE seek out a local source for help.
Depending on your physical location there are Master/slave groups like "MAsT" that are a good source of support and understanding. There are also "kink" friendly councelors that exist that can help YOU and not necessarily undermine your Master/slave relationship.
PLEASE keep us informed and keep posting here..

Phil

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 9:30:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared

there are alot of reasons. my past is the biggest part of it. other pieces of my life are the others. i just can't bear it any longer

Hello owned,

Among Masters, one of the prime directives given to slaves is "Protect the property." You have an enormous amount of value and your continued existance is an asset to your Master - it is imperitive that you take steps to ensure your own well-being so that you can continue to serve in the best way possible. If you are consumed by thoughts of death, you can't serve well. You matter to many people, not just your Master, and you add to the universe simply by being a part of it. Please don't deprive him and the rest of us of your presence by not caring for yourself in this.

Please visit this website: http://me.nami.org/crisisnumbers.html It is a listing of resources for people in your state that can help to get help for the feelings that seem to be overwhelming you. This is not something that can wait. Please, make the committment to yourself and those you serve to call today and ask for help.

You are worth it.

~Holly

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 9:40:25 AM

LadyHugs

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Dear ownedandcollared, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Lass, you are a slave and one things slaves are duty bound, is to protect the Master's property, even from the Master themselves. You are the only "white knight" there to save yourself, as well as to determine the danger in a truthful manner.

Unless the Master is a trained, licensed and insured mental health professional; then other like Masters/Mistress/Dominants must admit we do not know all things, to include the scars and injuries that nobody can see except your internal slave soul. If a Master forbids you to do an injury to yourself, doesn't want to hear it--he does care but, I can tell you; it is a clear sign of frustration and unable to express how to help you best. This is, in my mind's eye an indirect permission to master yourself and or be your own hero, white knight and protector/guardian over his property (you) to do what you must to save yourself first, as the point is reached where both of you are at mutual frustration on how to be of help and accepting help.

May I have you consider; that you give a call to mental health experts and make an appointment. Perhaps the Master fears that the lifestyle and age might be a means against you both. However, seek out kink friendly professionals first. Exhaust that route before going to a vanilla mental health expert.

May I have you consider; placing a request in for a kink friendly mental health expert on CollarMe's forum for Off Topic and Professional Services section, to contact you. Perhaps they can walk you through or support you a bit lass, until they can find somebody they may know in their circles close to where you are.

Regardless of anybody else's feelings on what the truth is--you know the truth and how much weight is behind the original post. When you get help and support--then you'll look past this and move on in life.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 9:51:11 AM

perverseangelic

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God gods. I wish people would get off the "you're 19 you can't -possibly- want to beong to someone or know what belonging to someone means." Fact is, there are many, many, many 19 year olds that belong, quite happily and securely, to their owners, who are not making horrible choices and who will either continue in that relationship or enter other ownership relationships as time goes by.

I'm bipolar, tipping heavily towards depression. I know where the OP is coming from here. I've done the "try to kill self" thing a couple times, yes, sometimes when I belonged to someone else.

Owned--please please please please got to a hospital. I was just talkng to my mom about this. She said that any hospital is legally require d to get you help and keep you under observation fr 72 hours if you come in and say you are tihnking about/want to hurt yourself. While I know that's not always the best thing, it -is- a break, and a way to step out of your life and get some help jump-started for you.

While I understand the Owner/owned bond, I think this is a place where it is your job to keep your owner's property healthy. If you have to do that by walking out of hte house and getting on a bus to the nearest emergency room, well, if you're owner can't appreciate that you're more use to him alive than dead, there's a problem here.

I don't fuck around with feelings of "I want to die." I've been in that place way too often. Not to be heavy-handed, but you need to do something about this, and if your owner isn't helping you with that, you need to superceed him to protect his property for the future. Sometimes others can't see how badly we need help and we have to simply take it on ourselves.

While I know you probably have a million people offering to help you, if you -ever- want to talk abut anything, please do IM or e-mail me? I know you don't know me from Adam, but again, I've been there/am currently there. Including the "19 and owned" part.

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