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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 8:36:55 PM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: trippingdaisy

With all due respect, i am not sure if this is the right place to argue about such things. The OP has come with a very serious problem, i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that she likely doesn't want to be the cause of strife between others.



I was just about to type this, when I saw your post.  Thank you for your words.

Often when someone is deep in stress, they say things in frustration or pain which may misrepresent the truth of a situation.   The OP said her Master gets angry and says he doesn't want to hear it.  Many decided to interpret that as "He doesn't care."  It is apparent that is not at all what she meant, for if he did not care he would not be taking her to therapists to get her the help she needs.

The LAST thing someone in such a state needs to hear is what an evil person the love of her life is.

To the OP, don't give up.  You are seeking help for yourself, and your Master is helping you do that.  That's already two people who believe your life has value enough to preserve.  The rest of us do too. 

I agree with whomever said your life is a gift to others.  I have a nephew who has twice attempted suicide, and his latest attempt, just a few months ago, left him in a psych ward and lucky to be alive.  He is now getting the proper attention and medications, and for the first time in his life, his fog is beginning to lift.  With his own courage, coupled with the love and support of his family and friends, we hope he carries himself through as his life is precious. 

Yours is too, so be proud of yourself for not giving up.  You have strength you are not even aware of.  It is that strength which has enabled you to persevere this far.  Such a strong spirit eventually finds its light, and when it does, it shines so brightly.  Speaking from experience, it IS possible to release the internal demons that seem to forever haunt the soul.  It is possible to heal, and to be rid of the pain.  Sometimes you have to knock on a hundred doors in order for one to open, and when it does, you can find your path to joy.

Keep seeking.  Keep listening to the internal voice that compels you to find the help you need.

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 8:59:34 PM   
petwolf22


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Status: offline 		PlayfulOne, thanks for responding for me.  i hadn't kept up with the thread and did not realize that marieToo had replied to me.

marieToo, judging is not necessarily always meant negatively, but all of us do it, on a daily basis, with everyone around us.  my point was that the OP came here for help on what to do, not suggestions as to the root causes of her problems, or having the blame placed on her.  It's not our place to do that.  THAT's why i didn't feel it appropriate to condemn her life choices, which, with subsequent posts, i think she has adequately explained.

Take a look at the definition--we ALL do this, and you did too, you formed your opinion based on your perceptions of what you read.  So, yes, you were in fact being judgemental.





judg·ment also judge·ment    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (jjmnt)
n.
  1. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.


  2. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances.
    The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating

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RE: A serious question - 6/5/2006 11:29:55 PM   
candleTC


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[Her orginal post is riddled with remarks that he has made that show he is not in support of her getting help.  If you think Im the only person who got that feeling, read some of the other posts.  Then when youre done with that, find another cause in your life rather than following all of my posts and personally going after me, speaking for me and attempting to start shit. 

Typical for your type anyway.




Firstly, what exactly is "our type" assuming that when you say "you" you are, in fact, refering to both me and the self proclaimed Gorean Asshole. 

Secondly, if You would look at the time stamps, You would take notice that my post was posted long before Master noticed any of Your posts on the other thread.  My thoughts were of my own mind and being.  Had nothing to do with anything previous or after.  Sorry if You feel like "im trying to start crap", although i kinda thought that this was a place that everyone was free to express thier opinions.  Maybe I'm wrong in that.  If so, someone could tell me to refrain from posting my opinion, and i will.  Until Then....

Better days

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 12:08:04 AM   
DesertRat


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Status: offline 		ownedgirlie, this is a late reply to your OP. If you were my girl, I would want to hear it all, and I would definitely get you in for some counseling. Get help.

Bob

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 1:30:24 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		DesertRat, To clarify, I am not the one who stated the OP; that is someone named "ownedandcollared."  My Master has heard it all, trust me.  Then again, he is experienced enough with life and people and the human mind to have known how to help me.  I believe your post is actually to the other Owned, the OP.

Your sentiment, however, is genuine and dear, and I hope she sees that.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 1:37:51 AM   
DesertRat


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Status: offline 		You are right. I was not confused as to the identity of the person I was addressing. Just had a brainfade and made a mistake.

I hope ownedandcollared does get help and that her Master can bring himself to face this problem and be a part of the process.

I just wanna say I got help just over 10 years ago, after spending decades in misery. I am much better now. For a long time, I didn't think it was possible for someone like me to be happy and 'normal'.
Bob

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 3:17:50 AM   
keme


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Status: offline 		owned please please please get help. You have sought it here which means you do have the desire now do it in your real life. You are valuable and worthy. You have so much to see if you would open your eyes and see it. Setting aside your life as you Master's property... you have a desire to live. Please live... I can't tell you how many times I have felt desperation but the thought of ending it was completely foreign to me. I didn't listen when my husband threatened and so when he finally did complete the act I was completely riddled with self loathing and guilt. I know now it is hard for me to discuss this pain because I was on the other end of it maybe the same for your Master who knows I am not here to judge. I am here to say the day may not always be sunshine and daisies but even the power of a nightmarish storm has beauty to behold. Please girl live please it is so wonderful.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 9:39:34 AM   
warlok762


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Status: offline 		I seen alot of red flags going up in my head the first time I read this post, for one I would have to question the integrity of the Master in this post he's not wanting to listen to his slave when she comes to him with a very serious problem. So how does he respond when she comes to him with a less serious issue, doe she get all pissy and send her away again to continue to question herself?
If you were mine and you came to me and told me you seriously wanted to die, I think first off as a Master I would want to question your abilities as my slave whether or not you were mentally healthy enough to serve. Secondly I would see it as my responsibility to find and get you the help you need as a person. How could I expect you to serve me fully if your not mentally stable enough to stand on your own 2 feet?
in your profile youstate the 2 of you are looking for a sister slave to serve with you..........your not mentally stable enough at this point to serve at all. I think bringing in a sister slave would just make things worse on you at this point, pushing you farther into the shadows of your mind.
 I definatly agree with what most have said that you need to get help right away, if your Master can't see it for himself to take that responsibility, then you owe to yourself to find that help as a person for yourself.


    I wish you most well, Warlok




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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 9:42:54 AM   
top4yuus


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Status: offline 		I too agree with you wholeheartedly warlock, this individual is in pain and needs some work.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 11:28:39 AM   
candleTC


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Status: offline 		Marie, HOLD THE PHONE, please!! Not one time have i attacked ANYONE personally.... i have only shared my differing opinion with You and how i felt they differed.  You have attacked me, my character, my integrity, My Master, His Home, and His name, as well, in this thread and others.  You have repeatedly judged others, mainly because they have disagreed with You.  This is a forum where we should be allowed to share our opinions and view, debate with some sort of level of intelligence.  If i am debating with John Smith, chances are, i'm going to quote the points John Smith has made, in order to make a clearer understanding of the arguement at hand.  I, in no way, shape or form, have ever attacked you personally.  And ONCE AGAIN, this thread started long before the other one did ....

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 12:21:11 PM   
warlok762


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Status: offline 		I think both you and marie need to stop this isn't about you. This is about someone who needs help.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 1:05:35 PM   
CollaredProperty


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Status: offline 		Please Get Professional Help Quickly.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 1:06:34 PM   
petwolf22


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Status: offline 		seems like marie likes to pull people into this....she never replied to my response though after accusing me of insulting her...frankly i'm happier if she doesn't.


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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 2:51:17 PM   
candleTC


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Status: offline 		Master Warlock, never one time did i ever claim it was about me...

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 2:53:15 PM   
candleTC


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Status: offline 		eh,  seems a lot of people have been getting "reprimanded" because of Marie's actions, the last day or so....

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 6:55:52 PM   
littlemissub


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Status: offline 		I love when someone posts something asking for help and others start arguing about semantics.  Get over yourself people.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 6:59:09 PM   
littlemissub


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Status: offline 		You need to remember that above everything you are a human being.  Maybe he doesn't like your approach to the subject and thinks you are just trying to get attention.  Now I am not saying to go do something dramatic to get the point across.  All you need to do is tell you are feeling extremely depressed to the point of wanting to harm yourself and as his property you do not want that to happen.  So in respect to him, would he please support you in going to the dr's and getting the mental help you need so that you may serve him to the best of your abilities.  I don't know your Master, so I can't judge his character.  But many times, if you try to tell someone something and they ignore it, if you make the issue about them, it spurs some sort of action out of them.  Good luck and if you ever want to talk, send me a messege.  I have been in some pretty low spots in my life as well and I don't mind listening at all.

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RE: A serious question - 6/6/2006 8:34:57 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		It sounds like your Master is part of the problem. Get some outside help immediately.

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RE: A serious question - 6/8/2006 11:48:04 AM   
pinkee


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ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared

i am an owned and collared slave. i live and serve my Master. He is wonderful, and i love Him very much. The problem, basically, is that i deeply want to die. i've tried to discuss this with Him, but He just gets mad and tells me that He doesn't want to hear it, which leaves me basically alone and doesn't change anything at all. And i don't know what to do. He was always the person that i turned to when i needed help. And i can't. i can't handle it. i've only been putting up any sort of resistance to death because of Him, because i didn't want to make Him unhappy, but it seems that He doesn't care. And if He doesn't care, i have no point in fighting.
So, then, what should i do? Keep asking Him for help, and make Him angry and upset, or just let things simmer until i can't take it anymore, which would be soon, and give up the fight?
if i were Yours, what would You want me to do?


Suicidial ideation is a mental disorder, which may mean no more than an imbalance of chemicals in the brain.  If you're serious, call 911 and get into a psych ward before you harm yourself.  This is way beyond your Master's abilities and the whole arena of BDSM.
 
pinkee

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RE: A serious question - 6/8/2006 11:51:00 AM   
kittensmailbox


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Status: offline 		i agree 110% with pinkee

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