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ORIGINAL: marieToo

If you read her post carefully, the reason she feels she cant get help is because her "Master" (lifestyle choice related) doesnt feel she needs help. 

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ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared
but i try and try and all that happens is that the therepists decline to treat me after 1 or 2 sessions.
ownedandcollared

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Are you willing to share the reason they decline to see you?

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

If you read her post carefully, the reason she feels she cant get help is because her "Master" (lifestyle choice related) doesnt feel she needs help. 

Funny thing telling someone to read the post carefully, where in her post is that comment?  she said,   "he just gets mad and telle me he doesn't want to hear it"  not nearly the same as saying he doesn't feel like she needs help.  Those are two vastly different statements.

Should you read the post of owned, I think she responded wonderfully.  He may well not be equipped to handle it and start freaking out himself when she brings it up.

Maybe in the future, YOU should read the post more carefully

K

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ORIGINAL: candleTC

Argh!!! Seems I lost everything I just posted due to a server timeout.  :(  So, I shall try this again, hopefully relaying some what of the same sentiments I had previous typed.  ( saving to notepad this time )

It's very rare that I am given permission to comment on such heated discussions and ones that hit me so close to home.  Having a tendency to get overly emotional, I can understand why.  With that being said, I have been given permission to comment on some of what has been said, thus far.  My comments at this point, being directed to Marie. 

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If you read her post carefully, the reason she feels she cant get help is because her "Master" (lifestyle choice related) doesnt feel she needs help. 

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am an owned and collared slave. i live and serve my Master. He is wonderful, and i love Him very much. The problem, basically, is that i deeply want to die. i've tried to discuss this with Him, but He just gets mad and tells me that He doesn't want to hear it, which leaves me basically alone and doesn't change anything at all.

Marie, where does it state that her Master doesn't feel like she needs help?? I didn't notice that anywhere in her post.  He has probably been blindsided by this behavior and is at a loss as much as she is.  It's quite possible that He just doesn't know what to do.  It's quite possible that He is just not mentally or emotionally equipped to handling this type of thing.  No where does it say that He doesn't feel like she needs help.

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And her "Master (lifestyle choice related) wont let her take transportation. 

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i am a total slave...i can't take anything on myself. Permission, transportation etc.

Once again, no where does it state that "He won't let her".  Being a total slave, means just that.  Means that she has given up certain things that we may take for granted everyday.  Being a total slave means that she may not have the know how to do certain things, i.e driving a car or boarding a bus or even where to go once she ascertains said transportation.  This has nothing to do with "He won't let her." This is purely being a slave.

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And her "Master"(lifestyle choice related) has her so convinced that he knows whats best for her that she doesnt feel she has the right  or the freedom (lifestyle choice related) to go and get herself help.

Wow. This is a judgment if I have ever seen one.  How do you know how her Master feels? How do you know how her Master has made her feel.  Are you in constant contact with her Master on a daily basis.  Is there some information that we don't know that you may be willing to share.  Careful with the words you say and the thoughts and words you put in others mouths. 

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You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave?? 

I am not really sure where the age thing comes into play.  Having been born into the "lifestyle", I am certain that being 19 has nothing to do with any life decision.  I can attest to the fact, that having the desire to serve begins at a very young age.  I was searching for your profile, Marie, wondering how old you were when you began your journey into the "lifestyle".  ( couldn't find it )

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You have no car, no choices, no nothing.  Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a *person* first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering *yourself* before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age.

Who is to say that she hasn't done these things, Marie.  Who's to say that she hasn't lived outside the world of slavery. Who's to say that she has tried the "discovering herself" thing and this is just what she has discovered?? On the other hand, Who's to say that she doesn't haven't friends, or a career or an education or obtaining one?  Once again, is there information that you know that the rest of us don't??

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[Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master". /quote]

Oh yes... Running from her Master... that seems to be the best idea, don't ya think?  You have already convinced her and the rest of us that she depends on Him for everything.  Running from Him, to go nowhere, yes, that's safe!!! * gah! * That's right, have her run to mom and dad where she can rely on them 100%... Oh.. but wait... maybe mom and dad are the reason she is feeling the way she is feeling.. maybe the mom and dad option is not the best option for her.  Even, yet, maybe mom and dad, not only isn't the the best option.. but a non-exsistant option.  Maybe mom and dad are dead?? Ya know, cemetaries are not the best place to hang out when you are suicidal... been there, done that. It's not good for the psyche at all.

Marie, it seems that you talk a lot on a subject that you know very little of.  You have been given the same amount of information that we all have been given, just as much as the girl is willing to divulge.  You, making judgement on her, isn't helpful.. and it's not nice.  It's hindering her from making the decisions that she needs to make.  Filling her head with, basically, her Master doesn't care, is not a mental place anyone would wish to take her. 

ownedandcollared, allow me to offer a bit of my own advice... Go to your Master in an adult manner, expressing your desire and need to get help.  Explain to Him that you need His help in finding the help you need, all the way down to the transportation.  Explain to Him that you trust His judgement on who gives you this help and the timeframe in which it is to be administered.  Going to Him in an adult manner shall get the result you desire.  Any Master, would see this as an emergency, at this point, and seek help immediatly.  If you go to Him, in tears, in a rant and express your desire to die, I'm afraid, it is then viewed as lashing out and not being serious.  Talk to Him.
The rest of my conversation to you will be done via email, because  I am starting to tread on some personal territory, which means, that this rant, is now...... over.

Nothing more to see here.

Be well

Her orginal post is riddled with remarks that he has made that show he is not in support of her getting help.  If you think Im the only person who got that feeling, read some of the other posts.  Then when youre done with that, find another cause in your life rather than following all of my posts and personally going after me, speaking for me and attempting to start shit. 

Typical for your type anyway.

(in reply to candleTC)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave??  No wonder you are depressed and want to die.  You have no car, no choices, no nothing.  Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a *person* first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering *yourself* before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age.  Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master".

I couldnt agree more there is liveing this life and then there is giveing your life up this man is no Master. a real Master doesnt have a slave that gives her own identaty up. A person that does that aparently is suffering and needs to deal with whatever psyc problems they have and reavalutate their slave selfs. the sheer fact he wont help you with beeing suasidle shows he is no Master a real Master would have you in counsaling. You are a child be a child you have your entire life to be a slave

And this coming from a 22 year old???? ack.  As i stated before.... age has very little to do with this.  I do not believe that at any point, you can put an age limit on the desires of a slave to serve.  The main point here is, that she needs help, regardless of her status or age.  The fact is, she is crying out for help.... the point is, there are things in her past that she is not able to shed.  So, yes, her profile says she is happy.. is it not possible to be happy in her slavery but be unhappy within herself? Is it not possible to be very happy with her Master, yet still have the feeling that things are not right in her life.  Is it possible that even seeing a bright future, it's impossible to move forward to the light at the end of the tunnel when the dark past has a hold on her?? Is it possible that the only way she feels to shake the demons that torment her is to just lay down and call it quits?  Of course it's selfish.... suicide always is.  Of course, it's a cowardly thing to do... However, sometimes, even when things look pretty on the outside, the inside is writhing in pain and misery.  Does this make her words nonsence or un true... or her situation fake?? i don't think so.  Does this mean that when she gets older that these feelings will just go away.... no, i don't think so.  19 or 49, slave/sub/nilla, i have seen people on both ends of the spectrum going through the same emotions.  I can't stress, that getting help is crucial, enough.

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

Cute,  you attack someone for what you did,  and oh by the way you were completely wrong,  and you don't like being called out for attacking them. 

Don't attack others, especially for your own failure to understand what you are reading,  and you won't get outed for it.

K

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

Oh please,  you insulted the poster by telling them they needed to more closely read, what you misread.  You misquoted the op while doing so.

K

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i am an owned and collared slave. i live and serve my Master. He is wonderful, and i love Him very much. The problem, basically, is that i deeply want to die. i've tried to discuss this with Him, but He just gets mad and tells me that He doesn't want to hear it, which leaves me basically alone and doesn't change anything at all.

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And i don't know what to do. He was always the person that i turned to when i needed help. And i can't. i can't handle it. i've only been putting up any sort of resistance to death because of Him, because i didn't want to make Him unhappy, but it seems that He doesn't care. And if He doesn't care, i have no point in fighting.
So, then, what should i do? Keep asking Him for help, and make Him angry and upset, or just let things simmer until i can't take it anymore, which would be soon, and give up the fight?

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if i were Yours, what would You want me to do?