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subbyinlosangele -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 12:40:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I saw this online and thought it was a beautiful and wanted to share it.

I am a dominant man. I am just that.

I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.

Not because I feel I am more intelligent, or wiser.

I am not dominant because of the strength or mass of my body.

I am not, nor would I want to be dominant with all women.

Yet to you, I am Master.

I am your Master only after earning your trust and I embrace your
submissiveness.

I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.

You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.

You tell me of the needs of your heart and body.

You have given me total access to your soul, and I accept the responsibility and honor.

You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.

You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.

I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.

You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.

Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.

Your strength disperses my doubt.

Your needs and desires encourage and give purpose to my efforts.

We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.

We compliment each other and make each other complete.

My desire to dominate you is instinctive.

It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.

We each recognize and accept our worth, and our need for someone to trust and fulfill our needs.

You are sure, strong and proud in your womanhood.

You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.

You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.

You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man.

In return you present control of your body, unqualified trust and honesty,

and the faithfulness of your heart. You submit because I have earned your trust.

Because I have opened my heart and soul to you.

Because I have listened to your words with my ears and heart and have learned to anticipate your needs and emotions.

And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.

What you give is not abnormal, but pure, natural and the rarest gift a woman could give a man.

You have given me complete and unshakable assurance of your commitment to me.

Your submissiveness is a magnificent gift and sacred responsibility.

I accept this from you with humility and joy.

I understand the rarity and purity of this gift.

I recognize it is your body and soul, your heart and mind.

I dominate you only because you have allowed it.

I dominate only because you have allowed me to and when I see your body kneel before me, in my mind and heart you are raised above all other women, and all the treasures of the earth.

What you give freely can not in reality be bought.

~ Author Unknown ~





Someone hit it on the nose when they said the writing was romance novel style. It will appeal to some people, and make other want to vomit, even if they agree with the underlying philosophy. Personally, I find the basic sentiments fine, though the prose itself is a little too flowery for my taste. Reads like a kinky Hallmark card to me -- I sense a lot of calculation on the part of the writer to elicit the emotional response he wants.




MissImmortalPain -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 12:52:42 PM)

Rs, much of what you post impresses me...but this left me disappointed. I think it is because you said bleeding and crying and then only talked about crying. I think you should come back and talk about bleeding (or maybe start a thread about it) Or maybe I just want to hear you do it...because you have me thinking now.




Awareness -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 2:00:13 PM)

It's bullshit designed to appeal to women's fantasies. Are women stupid enough to seriously think a guy will ramble on this long about shit like this?




Hillwilliam -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 2:02:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

It's bullshit designed to appeal to women's fantasies. Are women stupid enough to seriously think a guy will ramble on this long about shit like this?

If a guy thinks it will get him laid, he will ramble that long and more.




Awareness -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 2:07:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
If a guy thinks it will get him laid, he will ramble that long and more.
I wouldn't. Such a speech would make me physically ill.






Hillwilliam -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 2:08:48 PM)

Same here but obviously there are many who would beg to differ.............or maybe they'd just beg.




Awareness -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 2:12:00 PM)

I think that's the entire point. It's a speech designed to flatter the pretensions of the target, not an authentic statement of intent. If Michael P wrote this on a fucking CompuServe forum, then the fucker was advertising.




Lucifyre -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 4:55:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Well call me Mr Fluffy and put bunny ears on me (I know, Poise & Hibby bait) but I like romantic fluffy things things... like ... like bleeding & crying.

Crying is romantic . . .
Have you ever seen a slave love her Master so deeply that she cries from the emotional release after a good beating? Have you ever seen a slave feel so passionate that she crosses the pleasure/pain threshold and cums so intensely that it makes her weep? Have you ever seen trust so deep and complete that tears flow when she follows Master faithfully and overcomes her fears?

Crying is sexy . . .
Tear filled eyes big as saucers, looking up at you. Cheap mascara stains trailing down over her cheeks. A tear hangs precariously in the balance from her pouting, swollen and quivering lips. A trickle of blood and cum leak from the corner of her mouth as a testament to the violent sex. She is sex personified and her face and the tears upon it bear evidence as proof to the sacrifice she has just made for passion. She is someone that gave it all until she cried.

I like it when they cry . . .
I thrive on the connection, the bonds between a Master and slave and between a sadist and masochist. I love seeing the look on my slave's face when I see that I control her and what she is feeling. I like to cross Masterism with sadism while I explore emotional fears, expand physical limits, break mental boundaries and fulfill forbidden desires. I passionately mix love, torture, sex, fear, pleasure, pain, anguish, lust, trust and I test faith. I want to see tears of joy, tears of pain, tears of love, tears of pleasure and tears from fear... I like it when they cry.

Cry for me.



I just have to blurt this out:

THAT WAS FUCKING HOT!

Ok, back to regularly scheduled snark <3

Lucifyre




Karmastic -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 6:00:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

It's bullshit designed to appeal to women's fantasies. Are women stupid enough to seriously think a guy will ramble on this long about shit like this?

lol, like i said, it's the Oprah version of BDSM.




Kaliko -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 6:41:03 PM)






I am a dominant man. I am just that.

Stop asking me ridiculous questions.

I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.

Down deep, I know you're really smarter than me.

Not because I feel I am more intelligent, or wiser.

Now I'm using reverse psychology so you don't find out that down deep I know you're really smarter than me.

I am not dominant because of the strength or mass of my body.

I was in the marching band in high school.

I am not, nor would I want to be dominant with all women.

Women intimidate me.

Yet to you, I am Master.

You must have some real daddy issues.

I am your Master only after earning your trust and I embrace your
submissiveness.

You trust me to pull out before I cum, right baby?


I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.

I have looked into your body and can see that you haven't yet digested your Cobb salad.


You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.

Now try to make yourself really useful and throw away the trash.


You tell me of the needs of your heart and body.

But I'm not listening because I just got home from work and you're already yammering at me.


You have given me total access to your soul, and I accept the responsibility and honor.

Thank you...because I'm really kind of a pussy.


You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.

I'm just messin' with you. Yes, you are.


You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.

See? Told ya' I was just messin' with you when I said you're not inferior..


I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.

The more I proclaim it, the more it will be true.


You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.

Now I'm just kissing your ass a bit.


Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.

I can't believe I'm finally having sex with a real woman.


Your strength disperses my doubt.

Your strength allows me to distribute my doubt over a wide area. That makes no sense. See above...you are smarter than me.


Your needs and desires encourage and give purpose to my efforts.

I'm hard all day long.


We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.

Even though the definition of a half is one of two equal parts.


We compliment each other and make each other complete.

Actually, I mean complement. Don't associate my grammar skills with my dominate ability.


My desire to dominate you is instinctive.

Even if my ability to do so without explaining every fucking move I make isn't.


It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.

And apparently, so am I.


We each recognize and accept our worth, and our need for someone to trust and fulfill our needs.

I so don't deserve you.


You are sure, strong and proud in your womanhood.

But don't worry. I'll beat that right the fuck out of you.


You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.

I got you good and drunk before you signed that slave contract.


You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.

Your expectations are apparently a bit high.


You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man.

This was clear the other day when the plumber came by to clean out your pipes.


In return you present control of your body, unqualified trust and honesty,

and the faithfulness of your heart. You submit because I have earned your trust.

You submit because I slipped you a roofie.


Because I have opened my heart and soul to you.

You saw me cry at the end of "The Tooth Fairy."


Because I have listened to your words with my ears and heart and have learned to anticipate your needs and emotions.

So please stop jabbering on about your "needs" and shit. I got it, already.


And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.

Good health, family, food and shelter - these aren't treasures. Get your priorities in order.


What you give is not abnormal, but pure, natural and the rarest gift a woman could give a man.

I actually didn't know I could catch that with a condom on.


You have given me complete and unshakable assurance of your commitment to me.

Remember those pictures I took of you with the Great Dane and the clown ? Betray me and they may find their way to Facebook.


Your submissiveness is a magnificent gift and sacred responsibility.

Once again...I'm a pussy.


I accept this from you with humility and joy.

Kind of peeing my pants, really, that I get to touch a woman.


I understand the rarity and purity of this gift.

I thought I could just put a little cream on it, but it seems to be spreading.


I recognize it is your body and soul, your heart and mind.

But what I really want to know is, will you swallow my pee?


I dominate you only because you have allowed it.

Once again, I'm a pussy..


I dominate only because you have allowed me to and when I see your body kneel before me, in my mind and heart you are raised above all other women, and all the treasures of the earth.

Except my mother. You will never be as good to me as Ma was.


What you give freely can not in reality be bought.

Because I'm broke. Can I borrow some money, babe?


~ Author Unknown ~


(All in good fun. ;)




MissImmortalPain -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 7:26:29 PM)

[sm=applause.gif]




LadyHibiscus -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 7:42:58 PM)

Okay, I am marrying Kaliko.





littlewonder -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 9:42:56 PM)



quote:

I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.



Not because I feel I am more intelligent, or wiser.

I am not dominant because of the strength or mass of my body.

I am not, nor would I want to be dominant with all women.


He would hold no interest to me then if he wasn't all of these. I would not see him as a dominant personality if he didn't hold these qualities.
quote:


I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.


Only because he's known me for years upon years and even then he doesn't know every single one because sometimes I surprise him with something that he didn't expect from me and vice versa me with him.

quote:

You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.


No I haven't. I've just had to remember his desires and needs come before mine and I push my fears and inhibitions to the side and take a deep breath and jump all the while shaking and crying.

quote:

You tell me of the needs of your heart and body.


No always. Sometimes even I don't know those so I can' tell him. Other times I simply don't want to be a pain in the ass to him and he gets upset with me with that.

quote:

You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.


Because I'm a woman? No...because of who I am as a personality? Yup. I admit all the time to people that I am weak and even inferior to some people. Life is full of hierarchies.

quote:

You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.


As he says, I'm his slave, a thing to be used. Does he cherish me? Sure, but that's just a bonus.

quote:

You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.

LOL...for me that's just funny because that's just sooo not true of me. It's not an instinct for me. I have to actually think and be active in that department of my life. It's a struggle for me.
He's much better at it.

quote:

Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.

Your strength disperses my doubt.

Your needs and desires encourage and give purpose to my efforts.

He has that with or without me.

quote:

We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.

We compliment each other and make each other complete.


We are synergistic. And he was complete already before he got involved with me and that's why I fell for him. If he had a life that was not structured and complete I would have found him to be less than dominant.

quote:

It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.


heh..yeah it is. He gets off on degrading me and I get off on it too. It's not because I'm feminine. It's because that's how our relationship is built and we both get turned on by it.

quote:

We each recognize and accept our worth, and our need for someone to trust and fulfill our needs.


Not always. Sometimes we need to remind each other in those times when we have ups and downs like all humans.

quote:

You are sure, strong and proud in your womanhood.

You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.


Not even close. I'm not strong or proud and I submit because I'm a submissive personality. Not much more than that involved.

quote:

Because I have listened to your words with my ears and heart and have learned to anticipate your needs and emotions.


Sometimes he's so far off the mark it's not funny. He's human. That's why we make sure to communicate clearly with each other.

quote:

And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.


I can't ever say I gave him dominance over me. He is simply a dominant personality. I was "kneeling" before him the first night we met before he even spoke a single word because he held a dominant savoir faire about him.

quote:

What you give is not abnormal, but pure, natural and the rarest gift a woman could give a man.


Rare? Nah..it's pretty common. Natural? Depends who you ask. Abnormal? The tests are still out on that one.

quote:

Your submissiveness is a magnificent gift and sacred responsibility.


Crap. I guess that means he'll be exchanging it soon.

quote:

What you give freely can not in reality be bought.


People buy it all the time.

Ok so basically this entire thing is unrealistic and why so many people who get into bdsm get fucked over again and again. They think a dom will rescue them, make their life complete and they'll live happily ever after while locked in a golden chamber and waiting for him to climb her hair.

A relationship, any relationship, is work. It's not a storybook romance. It's not what you see on tv. Life is not easy and this is just not magically going to happen if you're not already healthy first, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually.





LadyConstanze -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 10:11:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

When I read it I see a Man telling strong woman to not be ashamed of her submission. Majority of american women are raised and taught "to wear the pants" "be independent" "be strong" and somewhere its came to pass its weak to be just feminine, to want to serve, allow the man to be dominan, make the decisions. Its just my opinion but I really think theres alot of joy and happiness to it. Of course it depends on who the man is, if he is worthy of it in your eyes. If you love him, the real kind of love, there is nothing like it.



OK, I'm not American, I'm quite feminine and yet I have no trouble being strong and I don't want to serve a guy and nope, I wouldn't allow a guy to make the decisions....

Where does that BS come from that to be feminine you have to be submissive and just want to serve a man? Female dominants are not man hating lesbians (not that there is anything wrong with lesbians, bisexuality....)




peppermint -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 10:36:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze




OK, I'm not American, I'm quite feminine and yet I have no trouble being strong and I don't want to serve a guy and nope, I wouldn't allow a guy to make the decisions....

Where does that BS come from that to be feminine you have to be submissive and just want to serve a man? Female dominants are not man hating lesbians (not that there is anything wrong with lesbians, bisexuality....)


When this was written many years ago there was a preface that has been removed.  In it he says he is speaking from his own point of view which is Male Dominant, female submissive.  This is all his personal take on how he tries to live his life.  He was not in any way speaking about femme Dommes or lesbians. 




WestBaySlave -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 10:37:26 PM)

Kaliko - delightful. [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Where does that BS come from that to be feminine you have to be submissive and just want to serve a man? Female dominants are not man hating lesbians (not that there is anything wrong with lesbians, bisexuality....)


I'm guessing from the same thinking that extrapolates wanting to sub for a woman into a female supremacist philosophy.

Really one can do this with any group, and turn "I want to sub to / dominate this type of human" into a "dominance / submission is an inherent quality of this type of human".

I think it's malarkey, but if it's a fetish for a scene, perfectly harmless.




ResidentSadist -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 10:51:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucifyre
quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Well call me Mr Fluffy and put bunny ears on me (I know, Poise & Hibby bait) but I like romantic fluffy things things... like ... like bleeding & crying.

Crying is romantic . . .
Have you ever seen etc etc.......


I just have to blurt this out:

THAT WAS FUCKING HOT!

Ok, back to regularly scheduled snark <3

Lucifyre

It was the concept of calling me Mr Fluffy and putting bunny ears on me wasn't it?
It's that image Hibby & Poise painted of me in bunny suit right.... had nothing to with crying I bet.
One picture of me as Mr nice guy with some bunny ears and the while Sadist thing goes right out the window.
Gonna' have to change my nick to MrFuzzyEars if this keeps up.
[:)]



quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

When I read it I see a Man telling strong woman to not be ashamed of her submission. Majority of american women are raised and taught "to wear the pants" "be independent" "be strong" and somewhere its came to pass its weak to be just feminine, to want to serve, allow the man to be dominan, make the decisions. Its just my opinion but I really think theres alot of joy and happiness to it. Of course it depends on who the man is, if he is worthy of it in your eyes. If you love him, the real kind of love, there is nothing like it.



OK, I'm not American, I'm quite feminine and yet I have no trouble being strong and I don't want to serve a guy and nope, I wouldn't allow a guy to make the decisions....

Where does that BS come from that to be feminine you have to be submissive and just want to serve a man? Female dominants are not man hating lesbians (not that there is anything wrong with lesbians, bisexuality....)

To quote RedMagic1 . . . "Castle Realm" (sorry dude).
Please don't blame that on him. There has been a lot of Castle Realm references in threads lately. At last count, I believe even I gave it credit for some of the woes in the leather community to this day.

Also probably the Gor books' unified theme that most women have an inner slave waiting to set free by the right Master. Sorta' puts the American male chauvinists' attitude into huge body of fiction that is becoming part of/or a subset of the BDSM culture.

I think it goes like this . . . you aren't submissive yet only because you haven't met a man more powerful than you, stronger, wealthier and sexier. So much so that when you meet him, you will drop to your knees and whimper 'take me Master'. Something like that.




FrostedFlake -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 11:14:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I saw this online and thought it was a beautiful and wanted to share it.

I am a dominant man. I am just that.

I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.

Not because I feel I am more intelligent, or wiser.

I am not dominant because of the strength or mass of my body.

I am not, nor would I want to be dominant with all women.

Yet to you, I am Master.

I am your Master only after earning your trust and I embrace your
submissiveness.

I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.

You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.

You tell me of the needs of your heart and body.

You have given me total access to your soul, and I accept the responsibility and honor.

You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.

You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.

I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.

You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.

Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.

Your strength disperses my doubt.

Your needs and desires encourage and give purpose to my efforts.

We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.

We compliment each other and make each other complete.

My desire to dominate you is instinctive.

It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.

We each recognize and accept our worth, and our need for someone to trust and fulfill our needs.

You are sure, strong and proud in your womanhood.

You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.

You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.

You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man.

In return you present control of your body, unqualified trust and honesty,

and the faithfulness of your heart. You submit because I have earned your trust.

Because I have opened my heart and soul to you.

Because I have listened to your words with my ears and heart and have learned to anticipate your needs and emotions.

And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.

What you give is not abnormal, but pure, natural and the rarest gift a woman could give a man.

You have given me complete and unshakable assurance of your commitment to me.

Your submissiveness is a magnificent gift and sacred responsibility.

I accept this from you with humility and joy.

I understand the rarity and purity of this gift.

I recognize it is your body and soul, your heart and mind.

I dominate you only because you have allowed it.

I dominate only because you have allowed me to and when I see your body kneel before me, in my mind and heart you are raised above all other women, and all the treasures of the earth.

What you give freely can not in reality be bought.

~ Author Unknown ~



Well that settles that.

I'm a bottom.

Now, where did I put my 'Tums'?

A-aaaa-and the mop?




crazyml -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 11:18:16 PM)

OMFG. That is a fucking AWESOME translation!




ResidentSadist -> RE: THe Dominant Man (4/27/2012 11:20:54 PM)

Her ability to read between the lines was awesome wasn't it?

[:D]




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