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fucktoyprincess -> RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception - says the Holy Bible (5/24/2012 7:20:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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Who gives a rat's behind what the bible says about the subject. Not everyone in this country is a bible thumping Christian, and Religion should have no bearing on Law. If the Scientific community defines life as beginning at the time of birth, then that is the definition which should be used, and all of the biblical crap should remain behind the doors of the churches and get out of my Government.
My pro-choice proclivities are challenged by some of the nonsense I read on this thread.
Where is it that the "Scientific community" defines life as beginning at birth? Who speaks for the whole of Science on this topic, which is loaded with ethical and legal dimensions? And when is Science always 100% right about anything? Science is fluid; not dogmatic as you make it out to be.
"Science" is not one thing. So I would have to agree that there is likely no one definition even from the scientific community.
However, as a society, we can come up with definitions that will allow patients and doctors to make appropriate determinations. To that end, I do think the concept of "viability" is likely the best option. This, coupled with the historical treatment of miscarriage by all religions, seems pretty dispositive on this issue. Certainly, a law allowing a first trimester abortion should really not be an issue even for those whose religion prohibit one. Again, it should be a personal decision.
And let us all be very, very clear here. I know of very few religions (Jainism? Buddhism?) that feel all killing is wrong. Most religions do make a distinction between acceptable killing and "murder". Otherwise, we would never have war, would we? So at some very cynical level, part of me feels we don't have to actually have to agree, as a society on a dispositive definition of when life begins in order to have a law on the books about abortion that is respectful of differing religious beliefs. Decisions should be left to the individual based on their own religious beliefs. Create the law that gives the widest latitude for personal religious beliefs. I support the maximum religious freedom - which means leaving this decision to the individual.
And for those who are going on and on about "killing a life", please explain to me then why you support our troops all over the world in activities that result in the deaths of other human beings. Human beings that no one disputes are "lives". Exactly how are you justifying that? That the enemy can never be "innocent"? Really? How morally interesting. Again, the indifference that people show to the "lives" that currently exist on this planet, never ceases to amaze me. If half of the energy directed at anti-abortion rhetoric and activities were directed towards helping people who are actually here, the world would be an infinitely better place. Such a misplaced effort. [&:]
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