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If everyone stopped worrying about how real or fake everyone else was, or how much or little "experience" others have, and just respected each other, the world would be a better place. /rodney king can't we all just get along

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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If everyone stopped worrying about how real or fake everyone else was, or how much or little "experience" others have, and just respected each other, the world would be a better place. /rodney king can't we all just get along

Well you changed your post so it doesn't say tolerant anymore but I still disagree with that statement as well.

I don't just respect each other. I don't have any desire to respect everyone. Respect would mean there's something about them that I find awesome and inspiring. I respect very few people. It's not something that comes lightly for me.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
and i don't condone unlawful acts - no one has in this thread so far, so that's a red herring.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
and i don't condone unlawful acts - no one has in this thread so far, so that's a red herring.

While it might not be happening in this thread, I'd lay money on the fact that just about every female submissive on this thread has been approached about doing something unlawful. Bestiality, prostitution, date rape drugs, public nudity and teenage daughters.

So, no, it's not a red herring.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
and i don't condone unlawful acts - no one has in this thread so far, so that's a red herring.

While it might not be happening in this thread, I'd lay money on the fact that just about every female submissive on this thread has been approached about doing something unlawful. Bestiality, prostitution, date rape drugs, public nudity and teenage daughters.

So, no, it's not a red herring.

mmm, good point. as always, i believe you (bolded).

and i agree, it wasn't happening in this thread, which relates to my point. it's a red herring because the OP didn't support that, yet people gave him the lecture on it. or at the very least, took what he said (tolerance, or respect of WIITWD, and not turning on ourselves) and turned it into a primer of what is not acceptable. that's fine with me, just making my usual observations.

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The actual sentiment is just because it's labeled "kink" doesn't mean it's deserving of respect. ie: The items above. Lots of people list those things as their kink.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

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The actual sentiment is just because it's labeled "kink" doesn't mean it's deserving of respect. ie: The items above. Lots of people list those things as their kink.

agree. that list goes well beyond kink or BDSM, and deserves no 'respect'.

and again, i don't think anyone, including OP, assumed that the respect OP spoke of would include that. i.e., it's a red herring, because no one has argued that list should be respected.

i simply assumed OP wouldn't include that, and didn't feel the need to give lectures on what things should NOT be 'respected'.

i truly must be weird if it's so hard to understand my observation, that people seemed to have honed in on all the bad things that don't deserve 'respect', rather than take the spirit of the thread to mean we should respect other peoples kinds. implicit in that is that it's within reason, as Chatterbox24 mentioned.

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He told me to turn around. My breasts were hanging out. I was growing very warm. I heard a car approaching as I stood there... shifting from foot to foot. He told me to put my outer top on but leave my tank top as is and to get in the car. I put the shirt on just as a car pulled in the lot. I felt the heat in my face move down my body. I looked down and walked to the other side of the car and got in. I wanted to run, but did not want to draw more attention to myself than I felt there already was.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

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The actual sentiment is just because it's labeled "kink" doesn't mean it's deserving of respect. ie: The items above. Lots of people list those things as their kink.

agree. that list goes well beyond kink or BDSM, and deserves no 'respect'.

and again, i don't think anyone, including OP, assumed that the respect OP spoke of would include that. i.e., it's a red herring, because no one has argued that list should be respected.

i simply assumed OP wouldn't include that, and didn't feel the need to give lectures on what things should NOT be 'respected'.

i truly must be weird if it's so hard to understand my observation, that people seemed to have honed in on all the bad things that don't deserve 'respect', rather than take the spirit of the thread to mean we should respect other peoples kinds. implicit in that is that it's within reason, as Chatterbox24 mentioned.

The OP gave broad sweeping generalization. He didn't bother to differentiate, so the oness is on him. I've bolded a key statement here. Within reason of whom? Because the people that practice what is in that list I made, think it's entirely reasonable. Maybe the OP thinks one of those items is an entirely reasonable kink.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

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The actual sentiment is just because it's labeled "kink" doesn't mean it's deserving of respect. ie: The items above. Lots of people list those things as their kink.

agree. that list goes well beyond kink or BDSM, and deserves no 'respect'.

and again, i don't think anyone, including OP, assumed that the respect OP spoke of would include that. i.e., it's a red herring, because no one has argued that list should be respected.

i simply assumed OP wouldn't include that, and didn't feel the need to give lectures on what things should NOT be 'respected'.

i truly must be weird if it's so hard to understand my observation, that people seemed to have honed in on all the bad things that don't deserve 'respect', rather than take the spirit of the thread to mean we should respect other peoples kinds. implicit in that is that it's within reason, as Chatterbox24 mentioned.

The OP gave broad sweeping generalization. He didn't bother to differentiate, so the oness is on him. I've bolded a key statement here. Within reason of whom? Because the people that practice what is in that list I made, think it's entirely reasonable. Maybe the OP thinks one of those items is an entirely reasonable kink.

lol, upon reading your first sentence, i was all worried that i missed some list OP gave that included bad stuff :) like, oh shit, what did i miss. seems like i didn't miss anything.

re what i bolded red...yes, perhaps, but more likely, not. i didn't see any indication of that in their post, or have any past experience to indicate OP was extreme, to assume negative rather than positive. that's my opinion, of course.

but again, if that's what i thought he meant, i definitely would have asked OP, and enjoyed laying into him for it, if true.

and again, just to be clear, it's not a hard stretch to imagine people justifying their unlawful behavior as kink. that doesn't deserve 'respect'. and i consider you very knowledgeable about all this, so i typically believe what you say as fact. but not when it's simply your assumption of what you think OP meant, without asking.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I believe those that expect, demand and talk about respect with strangers, are the people I would least likely respect. So I go to the link... I read a few things, different pages and think... now I get it. I get why she speaks as if we all should defend one another, stand together in respect and not bash anyone for their kink.

Had I found her with boobs hanging out in a parking lot with her dominant ordering her how to do things... in public/public play... with my grand children... I'd be more likely to report her ass than support her ass once she was arrested for indecent exposure in a public setting where children might see them. Did they know who was in the car, that approached? Just put your outside shirt on but leave your boobs hanging out... nice touch for not knowing who was in that car! Risky because anyone could have been in there, including under cover police. I think them fools.

Do I have a problem with nudity? No. Do I have a problem with public nudity? Depends on where it is and who might be forced to see it and the laws of the land.

So... I am supposed to respect, stand up for and united with these imbeciles? I think not. Nor do I need or want their respect and support.

We are not fighting the world to be able to do what we do. When a dungeon is being harassed or shut down... I may lend a letter, support or something that might help them, but individuals? No fucking way do I lend my name... my anything unless I believe in them and agree with them. That isn't based on kink. That is based on who they are, who they present and what the situation is and what I know of them.

I don't feel I need support, respect or anything else, from strangers. I don't care what they have in common with me or whether we live exact replicas of one anthers lives. No respect for anyone is expected, provided or asked for. We may have something in common... but that doesn't mean I will like them and I don't often respect someone I don't like because there tend to be reasons I don't like them that would prevent respect.

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The link he provided to support his position has an essay portraying public nudity.

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ORIGINAL: FemalecumLover

Read more about miria ... http://www.withinreality.com/miria3.html

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You need a link for my opinion and what I do in certain situations? lol