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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 4:47:10 PM   
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If I happen to be there and it was horrible and somene was being hurt well Id kick em in the nuts, or call the police.


So, there's your answer. You gave lip service to respecting someone else's kink, but state right there that you wouldn't tolerate it.

FYI, I said "horrifies them" which doesn't mean that it's illegal or immoral or even dangerous. It just means that it horrifies YOU. So, clearly you would find hardcore sadism beyond your respect by your statement above.

Until you've experienced it face to face and put that tolerance into effect, it's just lip service and your inexperience shows.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 5:05:13 PM   
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If I happen to be there and it was horrible and somene was being hurt well Id kick em in the nuts, or call the police.


So, there's your answer. You gave lip service to respecting someone else's kink, but state right there that you wouldn't tolerate it.

FYI, I said "horrifies them" which doesn't mean that it's illegal or immoral or even dangerous. It just means that it horrifies YOU. So, clearly you would find hardcore sadism beyond your respect by your statement above.

Until you've experienced it face to face and put that tolerance into effect, it's just lip service and your inexperience shows.



Not much horrifies me, Im a nurse, Ive seen amputations, horribly disfigured bodies. Someone could pull someone's uterus out their vagina and it wouldnt bother me or open a mans penis with a razor blade. SO I have some experience with gore. BUt thats surgery.
Actually if both parties are into slash and dash, makes no difference to me. I can respect that. Its when its non consensual that I would react. So you think if I saw someone with pins in pee pee or someone suspended with weights on their nipples would effect me. Nah, not really.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 6:17:48 PM   
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Whoa......lol............I know exactly how I would react if I walked into a room of horrifying kink I'd walk out, I dont want to see it. I wouldnt be there period. If I happen to be there and it was horrible and somene was being hurt well Id kick em in the nuts, or call the police. I like mental kink. And how did what the poster say go to horrifying kink?
ANd how does anyones experience make a bit of difference on agreeing with the poster. ANd really darling you crack me up YOU DONT KNOW ME. NO you miss the point he was applauding because we GOT IT. ANd since we got it its TERRIBLE....and we are weak , weak I tell ya, for agreeing something must be wrong with us.

I dont see anyone needing respect from strangers. Looks like the ones you talk about dont have a bit of problem saying whats on their mind resgardless of whether its liked or not.



I don't know how My quote got included in this, but since it did, I'll add My further two cents. It does become rather obvious when folks make these kinds of statements that they've never been to a public dungeon. Believe Me when I say there is always somebody out there whose kink is bigger and badder than yours. In your case, being in the medical field, you've probably got a leg up. The needle and cutting scenes won't phase you. How do you feel about blood play from whips? Maybe the age play scenes where the 'Daddy' is working on his incest fantasy? (Don't nail Me for that one, age players. It was a real scene.) How about the mind fuck scenes where people are screaming and begging for the top *not* to do something, even though it really was negotiated?

The great thing about the public play space is that you never know what you are going to see. That can be the drawback, too. Not everybody really *can* handle what they are going to see. Until you've actually come face to face with other people's kinks, you may be surprised at your own reaction.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 6:36:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		No really I dont know how I would react, I have never experienced it. IM not an exhibisionist so I wouldnt feel comfortable there performing. I am sure I would be like WTF. BUt its cool to each their own. Im sure its quite an experience.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:02:06 PM   
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The great thing about the public play space is that you never know what you are going to see. That can be the drawback, too. Not everybody really *can* handle what they are going to see. Until you've actually come face to face with other people's kinks, you may be surprised at your own reaction.


Exactly. And that is reason #4 that I would never be able to go to a dungeon or club. I would hate to pass out at the sight of blood or something else that freaked me out!

To me, that is me saying your kink is ok, just not for me. I still do not consider it something that justifies my respect though and I have no desires to go march arm in arm with anyone who does play publicly, just because they are kinky like me, but so differently from me too.

They could be totally aligned with my kind of kink and be a complete asshole to waitresses and mean to animals, which would make them a loser in my eyes.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:22:43 PM   
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It does become rather obvious when folks make these kinds of statements that they've never been to a public dungeon. Believe Me when I say there is always somebody out there whose kink is bigger and badder than yours.


Exactly and until you're confronted with something that triggers that reaction in you, stating that you're fine with everything within reason is just lip service. It's very easy to type words on a screen. It's not so easy to actually put those words into action.

I have a friend that plays in a manner in which I (and a lot of other people) find disturbing. But, it's consentual, legal, not immoral, they're aware of the risks and they're having a blast. I long ago came to terms of respecting their kink, but to be able to show my tolerance, I need to leave the room to fight my protective instincts.

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IM not an exhibisionist so I wouldnt feel comfortable there performing.
Of course, in your mind that the only way to be in a public dungeon is being an exhibitionist and performing.

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Exactly. And that is reason #4 that I would never be able to go to a dungeon or club. I would hate to pass out at the sight of blood or something else that freaked me out!
A lot of the public spaces in SoCal, don't actually allow intentional blood play as a safety factor.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:26:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know you said the only one you would have a problem with is non consensual acts but that makes me wonder what you consider non consensual. How would you react if you saw an M/s couple where she really really hates what he's doing to her but she continues to withstand because of her integrity and love for him. She's there telling him stop, please stop but he continues to wail on her....would that be non consensual to you?

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:32:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well thats one thing you do know, Ive been good at lip service. LOL.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:43:51 PM   
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A lot of the public spaces in SoCal, don't actually allow intentional blood play as a safety factor.

True. The one that is closest to Jst's location still does. That subject is kind of a toss up. I get that they have to do so in some locations because of the blood born pathogen issue. I happen to prefer places that do simply because if I feel like doing that kind of play, I want to have the option. It will probably be needles next.




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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 9:45:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh my. Blood, bondage, age play none of that would affect me, but screaming and begging them to stop, yeah that would get me. I can almost feel my chest tightening just thinking about it.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 10:33:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are lots of time I beg and scream for Master to stop but he continues because that's what he wants and in reality if he stopped I would feel extremely guilty, worthless and guilty as his slave. Yeah it fucking hurts most times and most times I end up in tears but in the end it's all good. I like that he can push me past the hurt even when I want him to stop because the pain is intense. Thankfully in public spaces he'll usually gag me in some way so he doesn't have to worry about people freaking out. lol

Basically what my point is that just because you may see it as non consensual doesn't mean the couple sees it that way. It just means he has the power to do whatever he wants because that's what she agreed to and she enjoys him doing as he wants.

So when others say they would freak out and slap the person doing the "harming" or call the police, don't be so quick just because of what you think.

If you don't like what you see, walk away. There are lots of things I don't like and I think are wrong but they are not me so I walk away or I don't go to the places where I think I will see such things.



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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 10:45:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not squeamish about things, I am a mother of two children. I have been puked on, spit up on, had major diaper explosions occur on me when the little one had the stomach flu. (On our brand new furniture no less. ) I have seen my kids hit their heads and had blood going everywhere while I thought to bad I don't carry super glue in my purse. ( Found out that bonding stuff in the ER is regular ol super glue) Then not to mention my husband and I get rather kinky ourselves.

But I have way too much empathy for others. I can't stand the new form of horror movies that is nothing more then torture to death movies. They keep me awake feeling horrible for how those poor people died. Yes I know it is just a movie and fake but still it bothers me. I have to be careful with news stories. I cried and had trouble sleeping for weeks when the press told in detail how a 2 year old baby was tortured for 8 hours until she died by her mother and her boyfriend. I have never been to any sort of place that has scenes going on. We literally live in the middle of nowhere, so I am not sure if I would be able to know it is all consensual and the sub would safe word if it was really too much or if it would be too much and I would have to leave.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 1:41:45 AM   
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Whoa......lol............I know exactly how I would react if I walked into a room of horrifying kink I'd walk out, I dont want to see it. I wouldnt be there period.



If you attend a play party you wouldn't necessarily know ahead of time what activities would be going on. What horrifies you, doesn't horrify everyone. It's a subjective assessment.


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If I happen to be there and it was horrible and somene was being hurt well Id kick em in the nuts, or call the police.



Again, using play parties as an example, quite often there's a whole lot of hurtin' going on. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it. ;)

If you attended any of the play parties I've been to, I wonder what you would do because I'm rather vocal (in a non-verbal fashion) while being beaten. (I like being expressive. ;)


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I like mental kink. And how did what the poster say go to horrifying kink?



There are a whole lot of kinks out there. If you can imagine it, someone is into it. The one that made me smile the most were the balloon fetishists. But I digress.

Regarding your question on the horrifying kink reference, the OP didn't qualify his statement. He used all encompassing terms. Until he defined it, for all anyone knew, kink would include the extremes as well as the mild stuff.


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ANd how does anyones experience make a bit of difference on agreeing with the poster.



Well, as I alluded to above, the OP didn't qualify his "kink" statement. For all anyone knew, he could have been including anything and everything. So when you have someone with limited or no experience, they probably can't even imagine stuff like flesh hook suspension or genital bisection or a number of other items. It's all about making an informed decision. You likely agree with the OP because your scope of knowledge about kink doesn't include some pretty extreme stuff. Your statement about "someone being hurt" indicates to me that you think pain play is extreme. It really isn't. It's fun! :)

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 4:31:59 AM   
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No really I dont know how I would react, I have never experienced it. IM not an exhibisionist so I wouldnt feel comfortable there performing. I am sure I would be like WTF. BUt its cool to each their own. Im sure its quite an experience.



Performing? Is that what you think play parties (or a public dungeon as LadyPact mentioned) are all about?

I'm not an exhibitionist in the least. I'm reserved and shy when it comes to being out in public, pretty much any public, kinky or otherwise. I have never "performed", as you put it. But I have enjoyed playing at play parties. For the ones I've been at, everyone was into their own thing with their play partners, so it wasn't about being put up on display. Although once I'm flying high, I'm not sure I'd be aware if I was part of a display. ;)

Until you do something, you will never know how you will react. You might be surprised what you learn about yourself. ;)

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 6:23:28 AM   
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 6:55:14 AM   
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 7:17:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		lol, come on now, I meant performing as like public nakedness, or public sex acts. I myself could not relax. Maybe once someone gets over that kind of shyness or humilation type feeling its freeing. I could understand why people do what they do.

BDSM is about pushing limits correct? Pushing ones self thru barriers, some that hold you back.

I could see where one could learn a thing or two. In mental "kink" which I did practice I learned alot about myself. It put my thoughts into a whole different perspective and made me realize why I did the things I did. Creating your own pain or others pain. Some very good realizations, some very sobering indeed.
I also learned how different a persons mind can work, how different ideas can be.
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 7:34:34 AM   
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lol, come on now, I meant performing as like public nakedness, or public sex acts. I myself could not relax. Maybe once someone gets over that kind of shyness or humilation type feeling its freeing. I could understand why people do what they do.


Not everyone at a play party is naked. Not everyone at a play party participates in scenes. Some are fully clothed and socializing or watching. And public spaces don't usually allow sex acts because that changes their legal status. You've never been to such a place, but seem to think you understand what goes on.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 7:58:14 AM   
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/22/2012 8:27:27 AM   
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