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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 6:42:03 PM   
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lol, no silly pants




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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 7:08:05 PM   
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K, if you go to the link you quoted... read some of the other pages, you will see it. It is on two pages. Here is the full story: http://www.withinreality.com/roleplay.html


thank you for clearing everything up.

for whatever reason (perhaps you didn't like what the OP linked to), your reference to following links was you drilling into more articles by the same author (or site). you made that reference, followed by the ellipses, which then articulated your own personal story of how you respond to similar real life situations.

i really do appreciate you clearing that up, because i do want to understand you.

thank you for linking to what you were disagreeing with before. if you say it's there (advocating public nudity), i believe you. i don't think you're a liar. and i agree, that's not "respectable" kink, not to be respected.

and i think you can now see how none of that made sense.

now that i understand you, i will disagree with one big huge thing. it's definitely not fair to indict OP for things he didn't link to or condone (pls pls pls don't argue he wasn't "indicted"). nor is it fair to say he condones something from another article, just because it's the same author as the first article.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 7:09:16 PM   
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lol, no silly pants




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get over yourself, hijack harry.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 7:24:17 PM   
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 7:34:47 PM   
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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 7:38:51 PM   
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If you continue to feed the trolls they will grow to become TROGDOR LORD OF TEH INTERWEBZ!!!





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who's a troll now? who's feeding who? pictures? use your words.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 8:13:15 PM   
ARIES83


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Status: offline 		Im going to be honest, I have just skimmed through this thread,
Haven't looked at that link, and I could be way off whatever this
Thread was suppose to be about.

Heres my say.
Im extremely judgemental but at the same time, I am also tolerant
of people with different lifestyles.

There are maybe 75% of people on here that I don't approve of
their Orientations but that dosen't mean they aren't great people,
or that I can't have discussions with them, or mess around with
them.

Now here comes the thing thats going to get me flamed to death...
In my life, I have been hit on by a curiously large amount of
gay guys... I am a 110% Hetro-Dom, and yet still they flock like
a bunch of seaguls, Ok maby they don't flock, but still, what the
hell man!

Almost every girl I've had, has had gay friends, all these lifestyle
fourms... Gay.
Gay gay gay, and not just guys, iv'e had gay girls wanna pash my
girls, Which I'm indifferent about...
Anyway. The thought of having sex of any kind with a guy, is
extremely Unappealing to me, (putting that mildly). I don't want
to be present when Any guy on guy is going on, I don't want to
know about your exploits.

Having said that, most of the gay guys Ive known, taking what
they do In The bedroom out of the equation are fucking awesome
people.
I personally don't find anykind of solidarity in kink or the like.
People are people, plain and simple.

Just like I can politely or humorously extricate myself from the
occasional Homoerotic propisition Without the need to be a fuckwit,
I can also see that People with a certain lifestyle choice need not be
bashed over the head with It or ostracised for it.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 8:54:44 PM   
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so far i think, when i've used the word "respect", it's as-in i try to respect people and treat them respectfully, even if i disagree with them, or they have some kink that's squicky for me. i.e., i respect their right to their kink. and, i treat them with the same respect (i hope) they show me.


Still disagree with you. I understand the way you are using it and using it in the same context that you are using it, I don't respect everyone respectfully even if I disagree with them. Some things that I disagree with will never ever be respected in any way whatsoever. I don't respect some people's kink and their "right" to it. There are some that squick me to the point that I morally find it wrong. The only reason I don't make a big hoohah about it is because I'd probably be chewed out and/or beat to a pulp for my moral views. And I don't care one tiny bit if anyone else respects my kink.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 11:30:03 PM   
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Okay Ill bite.

I dont see the thread as condoning murder, incest, nonconsenual rape, etc etc. That topic is on Killerpsycho.com.

IM onboard. Respect others opinions and kinks (within reason)


the above comes closest to what i would say. i think a lot of people assumed OP was condoning things he wasn't condoning. of course, everything is within reason.


I agree with the general sentiment, that respect is earned.

If everyone stopped worrying about how real or fake everyone else was, or how much or little "experience" others have, and just respected each other, the world would be a better place. /rodney king can't we all just get along



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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 11:37:20 PM   
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The actual sentiment is just because it's labeled "kink" doesn't mean it's deserving of respect. ie: The items above. Lots of people list those things as their kink.


agree. that list goes well beyond kink or BDSM, and deserves no 'respect'.

and again, i don't think anyone, including OP, assumed that the respect OP spoke of would include that. i.e., it's a red herring, because no one has argued that list should be respected.

i simply assumed OP wouldn't include that
, and didn't feel the need to give lectures on what things should NOT be 'respected'.


THANK YOU

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i truly must be weird if it's so hard to understand my observation, that people seemed to have honed in on all the bad things that don't deserve 'respect', rather than take the spirit of the thread to mean we should respect other peoples kinks. implicit in that is that it's within reason and not unlawful, as Chatterbox24 alluded to.



Enough Said !!!


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/20/2012 11:54:27 PM   
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The OP gave broad sweeping generalization. He didn't bother to differentiate, so the oness is on him. I've bolded a key statement here. Within reason of whom?
Because the people that practice what is in that list I made, think it's entirely reasonable.
Maybe the OP thinks one of those items is an entirely reasonable kink.

lol, upon reading your first sentence, i was all worried that i missed some list OP gave that included bad stuff :)
like, oh shit, what did i miss. seems like i didn't miss anything.


re what i bolded red...yes, perhaps, but more likely, not.
i didn't see any indication of that in their post,
or have any past experience to indicate OP was extreme
, to assume negative rather than positive. that's my opinion, of course.

but again, if that's what i thought he meant
, i definitely would have asked OP, and enjoyed laying into him for it, if true.

and again, just to be clear, it's not a hard stretch to imagine people
justifying their unlawful behavior as kink. that doesn't deserve 'respect'.
and i consider you very knowledgeable about all this
, so i typically believe what you say as fact.
but not when it's simply your assumption of what you think OP meant, without asking.



I am a professional worker
and professionalism is the frame in which I practice my kink as well

I respect privacy of myself and my partner
I am following strict rules to keep it this way PRIVATE n S S C
I cant respect some sort of sexual activities was added here to the post -all of them are illegal-

as Karmastic mentioned and assumed and he was right
I was talking in a general perspective about BDSM
and I assumed it would be understood as in Master/slave Dom/sub

and I even added that to get back in context
but some of the members here kept on talking over n over
the same unaccepted activities !


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 12:40:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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If you continue to feed the trolls they will grow to become TROGDOR LORD OF TEH INTERWEBZ!!!





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who's a troll now? who's feeding who? pictures? use your words.




It was you who said "i'm not instructing anyone (esp not anyone in particular) on how to post." Yet here you are doing just that.

How about your words and what they mean. I can give countless examples where your words are hypocritical in this way.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 2:11:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, OP, you quoted an article that couldn't even get the origin of the definition of BDSM correct, and we're supposed to jump up and down?

(My other half just looked at Me and said, "ut oh, here it comes".)

The fact that you like to fuck in ways that might be different than the average person just ain't that great.  I honestly don't care what your particular kink is.  Having that kink, or even acting on it, doesn't get you kudos in My world.  It's laughable that you think that earns you respect in some way.

When you learn that how you fuck really isn't the tantamount of who you are as a man, THEN you might earn My respect.  Until then, you're just some horny fuck who doesn't see that sexual appetite isn't all that important.

And, yes, it does stand for Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism.  That D/s bullshit was added later by people whining about feeling left out.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 4:14:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Meh. Let's all respect each other, ta-la-la la-la.

Is there custard with this apple pie?

But hey... let's have a stab (and pray to god that I don't go off topic).

Here's my take:

You don't have to understand everyone's kinks, you don't have to like them, you don't have to not feel "squicky", but it is beholden on you to try not to judge others.

Now... here's the thing - I make a commitment to try not to judge others. I don't promise that I won't judge others, only that I'll try.

Some kinks are properly fucked up, and some are so utterly absurd that it doesn't matter how hard I try.... I can't help myself.

But as a general rule - if it's lawful, risk aware, and consensual, fill your fucking boots.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 7:07:59 AM   
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So, OP, you quoted an article that couldn't even get the origin of the definition of BDSM correct, and we're supposed to jump up and down?

(My other half just looked at Me and said, "ut oh, here it comes".)

The fact that you like to fuck in ways that might be different than the average person just ain't that great.  I honestly don't care what your particular kink is.  Having that kink, or even acting on it, doesn't get you kudos in My world.  It's laughable that you think that earns you respect in some way.

When you learn that how you fuck really isn't the tantamount of who you are as a man, THEN you might earn My respect.  Until then, you're just some horny fuck who doesn't see that sexual appetite isn't all that important.

And, yes, it does stand for Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism.  That D/s bullshit was added later by people whining about feeling left out.



Yeah, he seems to have missed that point earlier.

I also find it funny that he's praising the two people with no experience. Neither one knows how they would react if they walked into a room and confronted with a kink that horrifies them.....because they've never been in that situation. Until put into practice, it's just lip service.


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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 11:47:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Op, No one is ever going to walk down the
Street arm in arm with you just because you
Are both kinky in some way.

You should just use this forum to ask advice,
Discuss ideas that you are curious about,
and post your ducklips/bird flipping pics.

If you want to flaunt your pride that your
Following your heart, go flaunt it, im sure
People here would be supportive, or at least
Go Until you stopped.
Just don't expect anyone to join you. If they
do, hey bonus.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 12:15:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Karmastic, I am not clearing anything up so that you might understand me. I have no need to be understood by you. You may continue to try to understand me, but I doubt that can ever happen and I won’t be wasting my time with it. I don’t care if we ever agree to anything. It really doesn’t matter to me. I find it funny that you continue to evaluate everything I say in such a public format and your manner of evaluation. I find that our debate or interaction with one another on these forums short lived, as it is getting rather boring. No ground can be gained by either of us.

I have not indicted the op on anything but, he chose to make an example of a woman’s words to prove a point and that woman was someone I wouldn’t respect in many ways. I find the premise of everyone that has something in common being loyal to and respecting one another, as flawed as thinking republicans and demarcates doing that Polly Anna, get along with everyone. It doesn’t matter what our kink is or whether we all do the same things every day of our lives… we are still not going to give and receive respect and loyalty from strangers and to expect that and that we would fight some force that comes against us… those involved in bdsm in any manner, is funny. No one can stop me from doing what I want to do unless I am faulty in how I conduct myself. I will not align myself with others simply because we are kinky.

I see you and the op as two peas in a pod. Your common ground, identification and loyalty in defense and speaking for one another is amazing… almost as if you were one flesh. Maybe the two of you could go form some groups with group think and that all powerful respect, fairness and loyalty you both seem to need so much.

Personally, I don’t need the respect, support or loyalty of strangers even if we have something in common and this has been the point people have tried to make, however they tried to make it. The bottom line is, we aren’t going to all respect one another and support one another. Many value respect and loyalty in different ways. I find no worth in a stranger respecting and supporting me. I wish to earn it and not be given it simply because I like to kick some butt or get kinky in any manner. Why would a self respecting, confident person need respect and loyalty based on so little as something in common?




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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 3:37:31 PM   
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agree. that list goes well beyond kink or BDSM, and deserves no 'respect'.

*chuckles*

So does that mean that I only got to wear my "yes I'm kinky" button for a few weeks and now I'm "well beyond kink" and into "horrific"?? Damn, it was sweet while it lasted.

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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 4:26:09 PM   
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So, OP, you quoted an article that couldn't even get the origin of the definition of BDSM correct, and we're supposed to jump up and down?

(My other half just looked at Me and said, "ut oh, here it comes".)

The fact that you like to fuck in ways that might be different than the average person just ain't that great.  I honestly don't care what your particular kink is.  Having that kink, or even acting on it, doesn't get you kudos in My world.  It's laughable that you think that earns you respect in some way.

When you learn that how you fuck really isn't the tantamount of who you are as a man, THEN you might earn My respect.  Until then, you're just some horny fuck who doesn't see that sexual appetite isn't all that important.

And, yes, it does stand for Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism.  That D/s bullshit was added later by people whining about feeling left out.



Yeah, he seems to have missed that point earlier.

I also find it funny that he's praising the two people with no experience. Neither one knows how they would react if they walked into a room and confronted with a kink that horrifies them.....because they've never been in that situation. Until put into practice, it's just lip service.



Whoa......lol............I know exactly how I would react if I walked into a room of horrifying kink I'd walk out, I dont want to see it. I wouldnt be there period. If I happen to be there and it was horrible and somene was being hurt well Id kick em in the nuts, or call the police. I like mental kink. And how did what the poster say go to horrifying kink?
ANd how does anyones experience make a bit of difference on agreeing with the poster. ANd really darling you crack me up YOU DONT KNOW ME. NO you miss the point he was applauding because we GOT IT. ANd since we got it its TERRIBLE....and we are weak , weak I tell ya, for agreeing something must be wrong with us.

I dont see anyone needing respect from strangers. Looks like the ones you talk about dont have a bit of problem saying whats on their mind resgardless of whether its liked or not.



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RE: Kink With Respect - 6/21/2012 4:31:03 PM   
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Now here comes the thing thats going to get me flamed to death...
In my life, I have been hit on by a curiously large amount of
gay guys... I am a 110% Hetro-Dom, and yet still they flock like
a bunch of seaguls, Ok maby they don't flock, but still, what the
hell man!



My husband has that problem at work. He does not have any issues with gay men but wtf leave him alone. One gay man asks for him specifically and he ended up spending the entire time backing up cause he is getting right in his face. Again WTF?? So I get what you are saying.

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