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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:23:22 PM   
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Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)


Well Romney's plan of further bloating the military and further slashing taxes, the strategies that got us here, certainly aren't going to to do that.

And it was Obama who returned us to being net oil exporters for the first time since 1949, not the energy-wizzes who helped bring us Enron.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:25:18 PM   
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Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)

I don't recall Pisspants mentioning any of that. Hell, there hasn't been a Republican who's even tried to do any of that little lot since Nixon.
(And if there had been, you'd doubtless have spent his term in office bitching about him being a RINO and why hasn't he been impeached...)

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:29:51 PM   
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If you use the link feature, your web sites wont be so long and the width of your posts will decrease, making it far easier to read.


Yeah, I know but, no one reads the links and since they've been doing their best to cut me to shreds using conjecture...I figured I'd come in with indisputable facts and then let the haters throw their stuff.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:32:20 PM   
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What would the international maps look like without the United States' military spending, one of the very few truly constitutional duties of the federal government

What language would we speak, and what chairman, comrade, king, dictator, emperor or fuhrer would we give a good old Nazi salute to

Thanks to leftist ideals...

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Except leftists dont really care about the poor OR their misery. They just want to use them for their votes


Yup. "OH look what they Left-Us! A surplus! Let's eliminate it by slashing taxes and jacking up military spending!"



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:34:16 PM   
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Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)


Well Romney's plan of further bloating the military and further slashing taxes, the strategies that got us here, certainly aren't going to to do that.

And it was Obama who returned us to being net oil exporters for the first time since 1949, not the energy-wizzes who helped bring us Enron.


Well, it was under his term...but it wasn't Obama that did that. Those leases had already been approved 20 years ago...it was during the last 3 years of Bushes last term that the scientists discovered they could use this new technology to bring the stuff up.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:34:54 PM   
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What would the international maps look like without the United States' military spending, one of the very few truly constitutional duties of the federal government

What language would we speak, and what chairman, comrade, king, dictator, emperor or fuhrer would we give a good old Nazi salute to

Thanks to leftist ideals...

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Except leftists dont really care about the poor OR their misery. They just want to use them for their votes


Yup. "OH look what they Left-Us! A surplus! Let's eliminate it by slashing taxes and jacking up military spending!"



Then stop pretending you give a shit about the deficit and national debt.

You want all that military, it has to be paid for. Even more tax cuts don't pay for even more military spending.

THAT'S the Romney Plan.


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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:36:51 PM   
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If our politicians werent killing us by raiding the treasury to try to buy votes and making people dependent on the federal government for a handout, werent in everyones business to the point that Americans cant DO business any longer...

All of that would be a piece of cake.

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I don't recall Pisspants mentioning any of that. Hell, there hasn't been a Republican who's even tried to do any of that little lot since Nixon.
(And if there had been, you'd doubtless have spent his term in office bitching about him being a RINO and why hasn't he been impeached...)



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:37:51 PM   
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Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)


Well Romney's plan of further bloating the military and further slashing taxes, the strategies that got us here, certainly aren't going to to do that.

And it was Obama who returned us to being net oil exporters for the first time since 1949, not the energy-wizzes who helped bring us Enron.


Well, it was under his term...but it wasn't Obama that did that. Those leases had already been approved 20 years ago...it was during the last 3 years of Bushes last term that the scientists discovered they could use this new technology to bring the stuff up.


I agree, Lookie. He completed what Bush started. Point is, he didn't pursue disastrous energy policies, and some are pretending. Just the opposite.

Had Reagan not immediately killed all of Carter's initiatives, just imagine where we'd be today energy wise. Now we're a follower, while the rest of the world innovates.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:41:48 PM   
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Again, if the fed were to take care of only the things it was meant to there would be a surplus in the treasury and an extremely vibrant economy

And make up your mind, you were earlier telling us Romney had no plan

Further, where is your evidence that Obama is going to cut the military to the point that we are left with no real defense. Where is your evidence that Norway and Sweden are finally going to begin to tow the line on defense against the various rogue nations so that we can perhaps relax a little bit in that regard


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Then stop pretending you give a shit about the deficit and national debt.

You want all that military, it has to be paid for. Even more tax cuts don't pay for even more military spending.

THAT'S the Romney Plan.





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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 2:45:01 PM   
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Mealy-Mouthed Carters "initiatives" amounted to put on a sweater, turn down the heat, stop enjoying affordable fuel and prepare for Americas decline

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I agree, Lookie. He completed what Bush started. Point is, he didn't pursue disastrous energy policies, and some are pretending. Just the opposite.

Had Reagan not immediately killed all of Carter's initiatives, just imagine where we'd be today energy wise. Now we're a follower, while the rest of the world innovates.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 3:03:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)


Well Romney's plan of further bloating the military and further slashing taxes, the strategies that got us here, certainly aren't going to to do that.

And it was Obama who returned us to being net oil exporters for the first time since 1949, not the energy-wizzes who helped bring us Enron.


Well, it was under his term...but it wasn't Obama that did that. Those leases had already been approved 20 years ago...it was during the last 3 years of Bushes last term that the scientists discovered they could use this new technology to bring the stuff up.


I agree, Lookie. He completed what Bush started. Point is, he didn't pursue disastrous energy policies, and some are pretending. Just the opposite.

Had Reagan not immediately killed all of Carter's initiatives, just imagine where we'd be today energy wise. Now we're a follower, while the rest of the world innovates.


Now that is a fact.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 3:05:42 PM   
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Mealy-Mouthed Carters "initiatives" amounted to put on a sweater, turn down the heat, stop enjoying affordable fuel and prepare for Americas decline

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I agree, Lookie. He completed what Bush started. Point is, he didn't pursue disastrous energy policies, and some are pretending. Just the opposite.

Had Reagan not immediately killed all of Carter's initiatives, just imagine where we'd be today energy wise. Now we're a follower, while the rest of the world innovates.




And guess what?

For the last 10 years or so, with oil between 80 and 140 bucks a barrel....people put on sweaters, turned their heat down, insulated their homes, bought more efficient vehicles, installed heat pumps.

(What a concept....kind of like what our grandparents did).

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 3:37:50 PM   
Sanity


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And guess what else

Nearly half of all blacks are dealing with chronic long-term unemployment

Why do leftists hate brown people? Release the energy, cut back on the overbearing regulations and bureaucratic red tape.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS THAT YOU PROMISED US MR OBAMA

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And guess what?

For the last 10 years or so, with oil between 80 and 140 bucks a barrel....people put on sweaters, turned their heat down, insulated their homes, bought more efficient vehicles, installed heat pumps.

(What a concept....kind of like what our grandparents did).




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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 3:39:18 PM   
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No, that is unsubstantiated partisan bloviating

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Now that is a fact.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 3:55:08 PM   
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And guess what else

Nearly half of all blacks are dealing with chronic long-term unemployment

Why do leftists hate brown people? Release the energy, cut back on the overbearing regulations and bureaucratic red tape.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS THAT YOU PROMISED US MR OBAMA

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

And guess what?

For the last 10 years or so, with oil between 80 and 140 bucks a barrel....people put on sweaters, turned their heat down, insulated their homes, bought more efficient vehicles, installed heat pumps.

(What a concept....kind of like what our grandparents did).






NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The August jobs report was dismal for plenty of reasons, but perhaps most striking was the picture it painted of racial inequality in the job market.

Black unemployment surged to 16.7% in August, its highest level since 1984, while the unemployment rate for whites fell slightly to 8%, the Labor Department reported.


http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/02/news/economy/black_unemployment_rate/index.htm

For a closer look at the new jobs report, which showed the black unemployment rate up to 14.4 percent, theGrio reached out to Algernon Austin, director of the Race, Ethnicity and the Economy program at the liberal-leaning Washington-based Economic Policy Institute. Here’s our Q&A:

theGrio: Why is the overall unemployment not dropping?

Austin: Although corporate profits have been high, businesses have been reluctant to hire. They have been reluctant to hire because consumers have cut back on purchasing the goods and services of businesses. It is necessary for the government to step in to break this relationship and to get the economy functioning normally again.

Why is the black jobless rate going up? Do you think this is just noise in the data or a real trend?

There are some fluctuations in the employment statistics for blacks, but essentially for blacks as well as the rest of the country, the economy is in a holding pattern. We haven’t seen any real significant change for the first half of the year.

The black unemployment rate was 14.4 percent in June, but it was 14.1 percent in February. It is important to realize the black unemployment rate rose last month because more blacks were in the labor force, not because the share of blacks working declined. We want blacks to participate in the labor force, but we need more jobs to keep them in the labor force.

Generally black unemployment is about twice as high as the rate for whites, even outside of a recession? Why?

No one has a good understanding of how and why this relationship has persisted for the last 50 years or so. We know that it is not simply about education. The black labor force is much better educated today than it was in the 1960s and 1970s, and yet the relationship persists.

The black labor force, on average, has a higher level of educational attainment than the Latino labor force, yet blacks have a higher unemployment rate than Latinos. Anti-black bias in the labor market likely plays some role.

What kind of policies would address the high black jobless rate?

Our goal for the black unemployment rate should be about 4 percent. We can’t get to a 4 percent black unemployment rate while the national unemployment rate is over 8 percent. To address the broad economic stagnation we are in, we need more job-creating investments in the American people and the American economy. We know what works.

The Congressional Budget Office (as well as all of the major professional macroeconomic analysts) has indicated that the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (editor’s note: this is informally known as the “stimulus bill” of 2009) created more than 3 million jobs. We need more of these types of policies, since we have a current jobs deficit of about 10 million jobs.

But to break the 2-to-1 black-to-white unemployment-rate ratio, we will also need targeted investments in high-unemployment communities. There are many black communities that can best be described as economically depressed. They have not been depressed for two or three years, but two or three decades. For these communities, we need a modern Works Progress Administration. Only something of this sort can break the decades-long pattern of high unemployment in these communities.

Is the unemployment rate likely to shift significantly before Election Day, barring some major policy shift?

Barring some major policy shift, the projections were for this type of economic stagnation. Sadly, so far, the analysts have been correct.

Only when everyone who is unemployed, who is on food stamps, and who has seen their wages stagnate or decline puts pressure on our elected officials to implement the policies that the CBO knows will create jobs will we see dramatic changes. Only strong job creation will improve the economic circumstances for the average American.


http://thegrio.com/2012/07/06/why-unemployment-wont-go-down/

Seems like the problem is bigger than just Obama.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 4:01:13 PM   
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The Katrina problem was bigger than Bush, too. New Orleans was advised that a severe storm would do what Katrina did

New Orleans saw the storm coming, it should have been evacuated

But it was all on Bush. So by that standard this current economy, after 3 1/2 years, is all Obamas

WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED US MR OBAMA

Scream it from the roof tops

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Seems like the problem is bigger than just Obama.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 4:09:53 PM   
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Rather than use them like the Dems

"Vote for O, because of his skin color"

Why not employ policies that help end welfare and make the national economy vibrant, such as a balanced budget, reasonable regulations on business, and helping to acquire abundant affordable energy rather than demonize it (and all businesses /wealth and job creators)



Yay for Sanity, he has spotted that none of the current problems stem from the 2008 crash, caused by the US banking system under Bush, and it is Obamas fault the world is in recession. WTG dude. [/sarcasm]

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 4:17:12 PM   
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What would the international maps look like without the United States' military spending, one of the very few truly constitutional duties of the federal government

What language would we speak, and what chairman, comrade, king, dictator, emperor or fuhrer would we give a good old Nazi salute to

Thanks to leftist ideals...



Your knowledge of history is fucking laughable. Some of you goons swear black was blue Iraq was all about freedom, yet Obama is making the world unstable by getting involved in Libya.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 4:22:32 PM   
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The Katrina problem was bigger than Bush, too. New Orleans was advised that a severe storm would do what Katrina did

New Orleans saw the storm coming, it should have been evacuated

But it was all on Bush. So by that standard this current economy, after 3 1/2 years, is all Obamas

WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED US MR OBAMA

Scream it from the roof tops

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Seems like the problem is bigger than just Obama.




The aftermath was his fault.

Tell me why ice ended up in Maryland...

Friday, NBC News located hundreds of trucks full of ice sitting around the country: in Maryland, Missouri, Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi and Louisiana. Some had been on trips to nowhere for the past two weeks.

“We really don’t understand,” said Palmer, “why FEMA is sending to all these different locations and just putting us in cold storage.”

Dan Wessels’ Cool Express ice company has worked with FEMA for years. He says he's never seen anything like it — only one-third of his trucks have actually unloaded the ice that FEMA ordered.

“The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing,” said Wessels. “The right hand is telling us to go to the left hand. We get to the left hand, they tell us to go back."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9369937/ns/nbcnightlynews-nbc_news_investigates/t/fema-ice-follies/

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/8/2012 4:31:29 PM   
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Fema also blocked tons of food supplies from the UK, due to worries about a long since passed mad cow disease. I am sure those that were starving thanked Fema for careing.

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