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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 9:28:48 PM

Musicmystery

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You obviously forgot the double digit inflation under Carter.

Under Carter? It started in 1972, under Nixon and then Ford. Carter inherited the mess.

Reagan quadrupled the national debt. That kind of federal spending will jump start an economy, but forever convincing conservatives that, as Cheney put it, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Not until Clinton would we get a handle on it in his second term, progress Bush II immediately reversed with tax cuts Alan Greenspan called "reckless and irresponsible."

Inflation was 4% when Carter came into office 11% when he left. True the problem had been going on for a while but it fell apart under Johnson not Nixon. Do stagflation and malaise ring a bell, both under Carter. Neither party is perfect which is why we need to fix today rather than set back and argue about the 70s economy.

In 1973, it more than doubled to 8.8%. Later in the decade, it would go to 12%. By 1980, inflation was 14%.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/09/1970s-great-inflation.asp#ixzz1zuLFc6Az

Started before Carter, lasted after him.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 11:05:12 PM

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Inflation dropped under Ford then skyrocketed under Carter I said that before it started not under Nixon but under Johnson.
Never mind I thought we were tslking about fixing the current problem but if all you want to talk about is histry as told by the DNC I am out of here

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:15:48 AM

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I'm no Marxist. I'm a Socialist there is a difference.

Marxist and Socialist ? hell, he cant even tell the difference between Marxist and a kitchen sink.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 3:36:35 AM

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Inflation dropped under Ford then skyrocketed under Carter I said that before it started not under Nixon but under Johnson.
Never mind I thought we were talking about fixing the current problem but if all you want to talk about is history as told by the DNC I am out of here

And under Nixon? 8.8%...not so hot....tough to pay for a war, increase employment, and reduce the deficit at the same time, for all of that, the economy faltered horribly. DO you think Ford turned it all around with his WIN buttons? (Whip Inflation Now)....forgot about that?...lol
http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/27/news/newsmakers/gerald_ford/index.htm

I think you are incorrect in your analysis of inflation under Ford, and also the effects of the Carter administration on inflation.

Ford proposed higher taxes on the RICH!....then immediately backtracked to a tax cut!...Gerry Ford, nice guy, married a smart lady, less than stellar President.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 4:42:05 AM

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Inflation dropped under Ford then skyrocketed under Carter I said that before it started not under Nixon but under Johnson.
Never mind I thought we were tslking about fixing the current problem but if all you want to talk about is histry as told by the DNC I am out of here

Try again, Ford's WIN (whip inflation now) buttons were as effective against the swell, as Reagan's just say no was against the drug problems.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 5:01:09 AM

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Since when is the lunatic fringe concerned about blacks folks?

They aren't. They just claim that they are to try and stop blacks from voting for the republicans.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 6:45:29 AM

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The answer for Republicans is always easy, they'll say they will do what Thomas says they will, then not do it!

Romeny=Bush 2 with better hair....just what we need!

Governor Romeny wht is your plan for serving as President...."Well I have the first day planned after that I'll wing it"!

No Health Care

Tax cuts for those who don't need it

Might even throw in another war just for kicks?

Corporations are people too!....

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 8:29:23 AM

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if all you want to talk about is histry as told by

You brought it up Dude.

When pressed, you acknowledge it's a Johnson through Reagan thing. Then you go back to chanting about Carter.

I just keep reminding you it's a longer story then that. If that's the "DNC version," then the DNC version is accurate.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:19:15 PM

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The democrat party have built a huge power base by increasing the amount of people dependent on government handouts.

Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic drivel? Name the programs you speak of.
Would not this charge be equally leveled at those republicrat hand outs?

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It is clearly against their interests to strengthen the economy.

How do you reach this idiotic conclusion from the premis given?

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For all those complaining about income inequality, there is no chance of this disparity getting any better as long as the number of people living off of other people keeps growing.

Which parasitic group are you speaking of?Corporate monopolies which are supported by taxpayers money?

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If you really want to do something about this issue we need to get business moving again,

Do the banks and the car companies need more money?

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stop demonizing those who are successful,

Lets examine the reasons that they are successful...government handouts...government monopolies...government contracts

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lessen benefits so people must go to work,

Perhaps you would like to give the foreman a whip also?

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stop borrowing to support an unsustainable welfare state and get people back to the point where they take pride in being self sufficient.

Everyone I know is proud of being self sufficient we are just up fed and sick of loud mouth morons pissing on our collective leg and telling us that it is raining.

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The choices are clear

Stop all corporate welfare

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:40:31 PM

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One of the best(but not the only) ways to separate out the bigots from the normal folks..........is look for an obession with race mixed with a kookie narative about whites being victims.

I don't believe I ever suggested whites are victims...at least I don't think they are.

I just think all races should quit bitching about why someone else is the reason for their failure and just finish high school, take care of your own and do everything you can to better yourself.

Those that don't....won't.

Those that do....will.

Stats don't lie, and that ain't racist.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:46:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

One of the best(but not the only) ways to separate out the bigots from the normal folks..........is look for an obession with race mixed with a kookie narative about whites being victims.

I don't believe I ever suggested whites are victims...at least I don't think they are.

I just think all races should quit bitching about why someone else is the reason for their failure and just finish high school, take care of your own and do everything you can to better yourself.

Those that don't....won't.

Those that do....will.

Stats don't lie, and that ain't racist.

And which stats stated that there are "black only" colleges?
Oh wait. None. Google is your friend.
At least the KKK is honest about what they believe. And don't hide their hateful attitudes behind "Well it's just stats".

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:53:39 PM

DaddySatyr

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And which stats stated that there are "black only" colleges?
Oh wait. None. Google is your friend.
At least the KKK is honest about what they believe. And don't hide their hateful attitudes behind "Well it's just stats".

I found a few HBCUs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historically_Black_colleges_and_universities

(In this case, Yahoo was my friend)

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:55:56 PM

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double post

< Message edited by thompsonx -- 7/7/2012 2:59:10 PM >

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 2:56:23 PM

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None of those are "black only" colleges that will not admit whites. Try again.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 3:03:49 PM

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And which stats stated that there are "black only" colleges?
Oh wait. None. Google is your friend.
At least the KKK is honest about what they believe. And don't hide their hateful attitudes behind "Well it's just stats".

I found a few HBCUs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historically_Black_colleges_and_universities

(In this case, Yahoo was my friend)

Peace and comfort,

Michael

Nothing in that article validates what you said.
This is the point where a gentleman admits he was mistaken and apologizes.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 3:08:55 PM

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*whispers*

I don't believe DaddySatyr said anything about "black only" colleges. I believe that lack of genius goes solely to LookieNoLogic.

As for that whole "a gentleman admits mistakes" thing...I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. =P

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 3:14:44 PM

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As for that whole "a gentleman admits mistakes" thing...I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. =P

Lana, that is the understatement of the decade:) Welcome to P&R

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 3:18:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: LanaDeVille

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One of the best(but not the only) ways to separate out the bigots from the normal folks..........is look for an obession with race mixed with a kookie narative about whites being victims.

I don't believe I ever suggested whites are victims...at least I don't think they are.

I just think all races should quit bitching about why someone else is the reason for their failure and just finish high school, take care of your own and do everything you can to better yourself.

Those that don't....won't.

Those that do....will.

Stats don't lie, and that ain't racist.

And which stats stated that there are "black only" colleges?
Oh wait. None. Google is your friend.
At least the KKK is honest about what they believe. And don't hide their hateful attitudes behind "Well it's just stats".

My post was never about hate, never about racism, but I knew the SECOND I hit "Enter" I'd be lambasted with all kinds of folks who'd be offended by my words. Folks who are determined to be PC.

But I'm a white guy, so my words about those who refuse to better themselves, regardless of race will be cast aside for political correctness....everyone with an opinion will (and has) jump(ed) in to express their hatred against me....not what I said....but me.

But I'm not the issue or the curse. The curse is poor preparedness.

The problem is people who choose to spend their lives refusing to build upon their best efforts. Rather, they choose to escape and fail.

It's not a racist thing to say that, but some races have a preponderance for these types of actions. I didn't make this shit up...look at the stats.

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if every black only college opened their doors tomorrow to every race on the planet or even yesterday....what matters is, those who choose to do street drugs, no matter their race, and choose that as a lifestyle, end up with rubber teeth. That's a fact.

Those that choose to finish high school at a minimum, do better than those who don't. Those that find a way to get even a moderate level of college behind them, do better than those who only chose to finish high school.

And those that leave their children behind, statistically, end up with progeny that follow that same path because they have NO BETTER EXAMPLE.

I don't give a fuck what color you are...these are truths.

Follow whatever PC culture you desire but if you fail to educate yourself, if you leave your children behind...you incarcerate those children to a failed future....as well as yourself.

I barely got a high school education and at 53, I'm probably the last generation that could get away with that bare minimum and succeed.....today, the least you need is Jr. College and frankly, that'll get you a 20 dollar an hour job at best, unless you're just a damned genius.

Most of us aren't.

Trust me...I hire these people, all colors, and it is beyond astounding how many kids today have absolutely no skill sets to carry them forward.

Hate me all you want but, everyone here knows inherently that the more you hate, the more you carry grudges, the more you believe that someone else is the reason you've failed is ALWAYS a failed excuse.

The only way forward for anyone....is determination, drive, wherewithal, desire, and an absolute fire to ensure that without fail, you're going to succeed, even if everyone else on the planet wants you to fail.

Because....you can...fail....or succeed.

It's entirely up to you.

And for all those in the above posts who have chosen to "ignore" me through that sexy little button that allows same....all good.

I didn't say anything that wasn't true....most simply read it through PC lenses...and that's okay with me....succeed if you want to.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 4:08:07 PM

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But I'm a white guy, so my words about those who refuse to better themselves, regardless of race will be cast aside for political correctness....everyone with an opinion will (and has) jump(ed) in to express their hatred against me....not what I said....but me.

Bullshit, people jumped on what you said. Trying to make it seem it is because you are white is absolute rubbish.

You are moaning about steroetyping while stereotyping, ironic huh.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/7/2012 4:26:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

But I'm a white guy, so my words about those who refuse to better themselves, regardless of race will be cast aside for political correctness....everyone with an opinion will (and has) jump(ed) in to express their hatred against me....not what I said....but me.

Bullshit, people jumped on what you said. Trying to make it seem it is because you are white is absolute rubbish.

You are moaning about steroetyping while stereotyping, ironic huh.

Look a little closer....it was never about me...I was just trying to be generous.

It's about PC.

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