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The African American Community - 7/13/2012 8:38:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I`m so glad Mittens stepped up and acknowledged that the African American community suffers disproportionately more than other Americans....thus starting a long needed discussion as to why this is so.A bit late but any sincere discussion is welcome.


For example.....black children suffer 4 times more from asthma and disproportionately more from many other illnesses.


This kind of disproportionate suffering by African Americans is historic and age-old.....certainly not as the kooks are implying...that it`s b/c of Barack Obama that blacks suffer more....

So......why do blacks suffer more,gain less and do worse than other Americans?

I hope that it`s a serious discussion and don`t include brutal insults, like the ones Mitt made.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 8:45:32 AM   
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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 8:49:11 AM   
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I am suffering how?

Seriously though, perhaps you shouldnt cover us all in the "Suffering More, Gain Less, Doing Worse" blanket. Granted, I am not a 25 year old millionaire like I had wished to be at 15, but I am doing quite well.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 8:56:10 AM   
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I've actually noted that the only time anyone politically minded wants to discuss race issues is when it furthers their agenda and that's about where it stops and starts. Solutions are the least of their concern.

I'm might be a nut, but the only way I think there will be an end to the "racial divide" is when it isn't so popular and beneficial to have it.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 9:30:56 AM   
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So......why do blacks suffer more,gain less and do worse than other Americans?



Perhaps because, beginning at least back in the 60s, and not with intent of the unintended consequences suffered, they were singled out to become such. The worst part being that the black community unwittingly requested it.

Now before anyone gets their panties in a wad, consider this. Being removed from the competitive playing field onto a special field created just for you, where the rules are different and the outcomes are adjusted as to meet desired criteria does no one any favors. It's akin to someone requesting, at the urging of their contemporaries, being placed on a pedestal, willingly ascending to it and finding out later that those to whom the request was made despise you for it. Eventually you begin to despise it yourself and eventually curse that those who allowed it to happen even did so in the first place.

What was created is a permanent underclass. The blame lies with those who asked for it and with those who enabled it.










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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 9:42:40 AM   
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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 9:49:04 AM   
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Do you want to spell out what "special" field that only blacks inhabit?



I have heard that LEO often take a special interest in them. Is that what you meant?

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 9:50:16 AM   
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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 9:59:44 AM   
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LEO? No, wondering what yattie meant


Law enforcement officers.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:00:45 AM   
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Do you want to spell out what "special" field that only blacks inhabit?


Are there no special considerations (as per the question) granted the black community based solely upon race?

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:04:47 AM   
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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:10:51 AM   
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Now before anyone gets their panties in a wad, consider this. Being removed from the competitive playing field onto a special field created just for you, where the rules are different and the outcomes are adjusted as to meet desired criteria does no one any favors.


Care to give us a specific example where that happens or is your argument only one of unproven generalities?

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:16:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
So......why do blacks suffer more,gain less and do worse than other Americans?



Perhaps because, beginning at least back in the 60s, and not with intent of the unintended consequences suffered, they were singled out to become such. The worst part being that the black community unwittingly requested it.

Now before anyone gets their panties in a wad, consider this. Being removed from the competitive playing field onto a special field created just for you, where the rules are different and the outcomes are adjusted as to meet desired criteria does no one any favors. It's akin to someone requesting, at the urging of their contemporaries, being placed on a pedestal, willingly ascending to it and finding out later that those to whom the request was made despise you for it. Eventually you begin to despise it yourself and eventually curse that those who allowed it to happen even did so in the first place.

What was created is a permanent underclass. The blame lies with those who asked for it and with those who enabled it.

Actually what you describe is a by-product of welfare reform. I think it was in 1974, Nixon 'reformed' welfare, renamed it AFDC and also codified (put in law) that if there was an able-bodied man living at the address...there would be no welfare check.

Yes, partisans, it is as simple at that. That removed dad from all poor families where he was unemployed...long enough. There goes the poor family structure.

Add to that, rampant discrimination in education, work and wages, so the state enlarges and seals the fate of a virtually permanent underclass.

And of course despite the wishes of many, no one was removed from any playing field, the playing field was re-tilted in favor of those who found it...all up hill for 250 years.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:31:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry but there are more white people on AFDC than black people. That isn't exactly our own "playing" Field....

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 10:37:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
So......why do blacks suffer more,gain less and do worse than other Americans?



Perhaps because, beginning at least back in the 60s, and not with intent of the unintended consequences suffered, they were singled out to become such. The worst part being that the black community unwittingly requested it.

Now before anyone gets their panties in a wad, consider this. Being removed from the competitive playing field onto a special field created just for you, where the rules are different and the outcomes are adjusted as to meet desired criteria does no one any favors. It's akin to someone requesting, at the urging of their contemporaries, being placed on a pedestal, willingly ascending to it and finding out later that those to whom the request was made despise you for it. Eventually you begin to despise it yourself and eventually curse that those who allowed it to happen even did so in the first place.

What was created is a permanent underclass. The blame lies with those who asked for it and with those who enabled it.


You have to be kidding. Are you on about those special fields blacks had to have, instead of happily sitting at the front of the bus, or in a segregated cafe ? If my panties seem to be in a wad it is because you are spouting racist bullshit.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 11:50:28 AM   
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"Sorry, but there are more white people on AFDC than black people." What is the percentage of blacks in America? What is the percentage of whites in America? Since there are a MUCH higher percentage of white people in America, of course there are more whites on AFDC. But PERCENTAGE wise, blacks RULE AFDC. If you didn't know this, now would be a good time to bad mouth your school district.

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 11:55:50 AM   
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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 1:00:23 PM   
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"Sorry, but there are more white people on AFDC than black people." What is the percentage of blacks in America? What is the percentage of whites in America? Since there are a MUCH higher percentage of white people in America, of course there are more whites on AFDC. But PERCENTAGE wise, blacks RULE AFDC. If you didn't know this, now would be a good time to bad mouth your school district.


Read up. Yattie was saying that there was a special "Field" that only blacks were allowed to play on......I don't really care about the numbers. The program is for anyone that is qualified

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 1:50:13 PM   
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"Sorry, but there are more white people on AFDC than black people." What is the percentage of blacks in America? What is the percentage of whites in America? Since there are a MUCH higher percentage of white people in America, of course there are more whites on AFDC. But PERCENTAGE wise, blacks RULE AFDC. If you didn't know this, now would be a good time to bad mouth your school district.


AFDC ended in 1996. WTF???

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RE: The African American Community - 7/13/2012 1:55:23 PM   
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