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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

That was either remarkably uninformed or....you're just an asshole.

It's not that simple, and I suspect you're not an asshole (but, you could be).

Perhaps before assuming malice you should request clarification?

I never said it was an easy thing to deal with. In fact any time you see a bullet list you should assume that there is a lot more complication behind the scenes. It was a highly simplified version of the cycle not the entire process.

Perhaps I should not have use the phrase 'feel better.' I should probably have said, "respond in a more acceptable way to outside stimuli in the presence of localized chemical within the brain structure while suffering a wide range of negative byproducts due to the presence of said chemicals.

That would hardly be relevant to the cycle itself though. That cycle is present in most of the people I have had to deal with in these situations, 2 of whom are very sick. And the sicker they are, the harsher their drugs (and the harsher the side effects. It is no wonder that they want off of them.

As for 'ignorant' - I deal with these issues on a regular basis.

Again, next time request clarification. Since the original question was about people going off their medication, don't you think an overall view of the cycle is important, perhaps even before learning the details of each step?

Sorry, I presumed you meant what you wrote.

I don't tend to write stuff just to hear my own voice.

If that was your intent, perhaps you can put an advance notice on same: "This is simply blather...I don't really mean what I'm about to say",

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But earlier I had mentioned that my mom had eight kids, and evaluated some of her troubles from that, whereupon your comment was "eight kids?",

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bdsm is known to basically accept anyone...any shape, size

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Simple....bdsm is on the outside of society..not exactly accepted in the mainstream (but it's getting there quickly) and bdsm is known to basically accept anyone...any shape, size, color, gender, views, fetishes, etc....it's where people go to who feel they don't fit in anywhere else and well...why not get into bdsm? They'll feel as if they belong because everyone belongs....at least that's the thought of many people imo.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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But earlier I had mentioned that my mom had eight kids, and evaluated some of her troubles from that, whereupon your comment was "eight kids?",

Hey, I was raised Catholic, plenty of big families in my genealogy.

I'd like to see the thread - IIRC, my judgement had nothing to do with how many children she'd had but that the decision to refinance at her age in order to renovate a house to accommodate 48 or so family members who visited a few times per year didn't seem particularly wise.

I am truly sorry that you interpreted my comment in the way that you did.

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Of course, there isn't a lot of citation to be had on this topic, but I did run across this survey someone did on FL with a relatively small amount of people. (Link) Keep in mind that there's always some error with surveys as well, so this isn't completely solid evidence.

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Online surveys like these are for entertainment only and have no statistical validity.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Somebody claimed that a hundred or more years ago, people didn't suffer from mental illness and they led happy and productive lives instead of taking medications prescribed by people who study the brain and its functioning.

I'd love to know in what universe that happened. Because in my family, what we did a hundred years ago and in every generation since then until the invention of SSRIs and more modern medications, was kill ourselves. A great uncle dead at 22. Another at 50. I had a couple of suicide attempts prior to modern "big pharma".

I'm grateful every day of my life, which I wouldn't have had otherwise for these meds.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Somebody claimed that a hundred or more years ago, people didn't suffer from mental illness and they led happy and productive lives instead of taking medications prescribed by people who study the brain and its functioning.

I'd love to know in what universe that happened. Because in my family, what we did a hundred years ago and in every generation since then until the invention of SSRIs and more modern medications, was kill ourselves. A great uncle dead at 22. Another at 50. I had a couple of suicide attempts prior to modern "big pharma".

I'm grateful every day of my life, which I wouldn't have had otherwise for these meds.

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My mom (whom you have attacked) and my dad (whom you have attacked previously, as did numerous others, for attempting to get back some minimal portion of what society has taken from from him all his life)

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I am close to a situation where a retiree house owner simply cannot sell.

A $60,000 kitchen remodeling (complete ripping out and replacement of everything, floor, walls, ceiling, island range and counter top installed, all appliances, etc.) was done upon last purchase.

The house was assessed at $725,000 in 2007, which we now know as being the peak before the bust. It was assessed at $685,000 in 2002, prior to the CDO-induced price inflation. The current price is listed at $499,000, after numerous reductions. The latest offer is $470,000, and that being half-hearted and half-serious.

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The wife in this matter insisted on a house large enough (and the kitchen) to accommodate family get-togethers at least twice a year, being as that her health had deteriorated to such that she could not do the beach or mountain vacation thing anymore, and the 22-29 people at such gatherings (8 kids, 6 grand kids, spouses, bfs, gfs, friends, etc.) necessitated the square footage.

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/Attempts to muster sympathy/

/fails/

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Edwynn - while it is indeed despicable to prey on the elderly, I seem to be missing some facts in your example to draw this conclusion. Perhaps you could set out the timelines again? I don't see how a house that was bought in 1999 could be in such trouble now. Did something shady happen during the boom?

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But earlier I had mentioned that my mom had eight kids, and evaluated some of her troubles from that, whereupon your comment was "eight kids?", in somewhat judgmental tone, followed by something along the lines that you had no empathy for her if she was stupid enough to have eight kids.

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Somebody claimed that a hundred or more years ago, people didn't suffer from mental illness and they led happy and productive lives instead of taking medications prescribed by people who study the brain and its functioning.

I'd love to know in what universe that happened. Because in my family, what we did a hundred years ago and in every generation since then until the invention of SSRIs and more modern medications, was kill ourselves. A great uncle dead at 22. Another at 50. I had a couple of suicide attempts prior to modern "big pharma".

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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My mom (whom you have attacked) and my dad (whom you have attacked previously, as did numerous others, for attempting to get back some minimal portion of what society has taken from from him all his life)

You said:

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I am close to a situation where a retiree house owner simply cannot sell.

A $60,000 kitchen remodeling (complete ripping out and replacement of everything, floor, walls, ceiling, island range and counter top installed, all appliances, etc.) was done upon last purchase.

The house was assessed at $725,000 in 2007, which we now know as being the peak before the bust. It was assessed at $685,000 in 2002, prior to the CDO-induced price inflation. The current price is listed at $499,000, after numerous reductions. The latest offer is $470,000, and that being half-hearted and half-serious.

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The wife in this matter insisted on a house large enough (and the kitchen) to accommodate family get-togethers at least twice a year, being as that her health had deteriorated to such that she could not do the beach or mountain vacation thing anymore, and the 22-29 people at such gatherings (8 kids, 6 grand kids, spouses, bfs, gfs, friends, etc.) necessitated the square footage.

In response to the bolded, I said:

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/Attempts to muster sympathy/

/fails/

Once I suspected you were referring to a family member (you never used the words "mother," "father" or "family" in this thread), I said:

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Edwynn - while it is indeed despicable to prey on the elderly, I seem to be missing some facts in your example to draw this conclusion. Perhaps you could set out the timelines again? I don't see how a house that was bought in 1999 could be in such trouble now. Did something shady happen during the boom?

I find it extremely unfortunate that today you remember it thusly:

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But earlier I had mentioned that my mom had eight kids, and evaluated some of her troubles from that, whereupon your comment was "eight kids?", in somewhat judgmental tone, followed by something along the lines that you had no empathy for her if she was stupid enough to have eight kids.

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*fnord*

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I so love reading the conspiracy theory people on here. lol. I swear I think I'm gonna make and market the tinfoil hat. But then they'd think it was a conspiracy theory to control their thoughts. do do do doooooo.......

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Irresponsible parents