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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 8:07:22 PM   
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Meh. These are the same Obama voters who call everyone who disagrees with Obama a racist, a right wing extremist, and a tea bagger. Obama ideologues will be outraged while free thinkers will just laugh at the blatant hypocrisy of the cult of Obama.


Hardly.


It's amazing what people "hear" when you just tell em their wrong, isn't it?
  I try to get to the other side of the street when I hear they "disagree" with Obama. But only cause of the litany of weird shit the comes out of em right after they say that.
God how I wish Ron Paul was still campaigning, keeping the occupied.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 8:10:34 PM   
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Nope, they're sick of the generational welfare leeches too


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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 8:16:10 PM   
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Nope, they're sick of the generational welfare leeches too. Like I said, the only people who will care about this video weren't going to vote for Romney anyway... And the democrats who are pretending to care about the welfare class.


I think the half-ish of his own party that he described as dependent victims who don't take responsibility for their life might care. Not to mention the independents he's trying to win over.

Since when are retirees, students, soldiers, the laid-off, and hard-working working class families the"welfare class", anyway? I mean, those are the people he was talking about.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 10:31:55 PM   
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Never heard anybody whine louder or complain more than the lower rent republicans during the Clinton & Obama administrations....


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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 10:42:31 PM   
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Nope, they're sick of the generational welfare leeches too


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That's actually brave of Rob to admit civil servants, especially cops, are generational leeches.
I say fire.em all and see what we can salvage from those pensions they've been breaking the tax payer's backs with. And they ought to make it as least as hard for them to "go out on disability" (yep there's even a term for it in their vernacular). Yeah hats off for admitting where the problem really lies.


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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:22:19 PM   
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That's actually brave of Rob to admit civil servants, especially cops, are generational leeches.
I say fire.em all and see what we can salvage from those pensions they've been breaking the tax payer's backs with. And they ought to make it as least as hard for them to "go out on disability" (yep there's even a term for it in their vernacular). Yeah hats off for admitting where the problem really lies.



How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy?

I guess by your definition every democrat politician is a leech, lets lay off the President first... He and Michelle are the biggest leeches of them all. Go ahead and lay every cop and fireman off. Teachers and garbage collectors too... Can't forget the streets workers with winter coming up... Nice to know you want all of us fired, and added to the unemployment rolls.





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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 2:45:21 AM   
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That's actually brave of Rob to admit civil servants, especially cops, are generational leeches.
I say fire.em all and see what we can salvage from those pensions they've been breaking the tax payer's backs with. And they ought to make it as least as hard for them to "go out on disability" (yep there's even a term for it in their vernacular). Yeah hats off for admitting where the problem really lies.



How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy?

I guess by your definition every democrat politician is a leech, lets lay off the President first... He and Michelle are the biggest leeches of them all. Go ahead and lay every cop and fireman off. Teachers and garbage collectors too... Can't forget the streets workers with winter coming up... Nice to know you want all of us fired, and added to the unemployment rolls.

You're dependent on government right? Romney said "there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government," You're part of the group Romney thinks are worthess leeches living off the hard work of others. just like combat troops and retirees.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 2:48:37 AM   
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How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy?


Do you know how many people have jobs that collect some form of welfare?

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 5:58:19 AM   
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Looks like they`re quadrupalling down  and are sticking with the dig against half of Americans with the belief (in spite of evidence to the contrary)they can "explain" it and turn this ugly ,untrue insult into a victory.

Yup,BION....they actually beleive that what Mittens said was true and that this disaster could be ,with a little explaining and some time,made into a learning moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uaKIeR4Sn3k

They better get busy "explaining". 

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 6:12:56 AM   
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How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy?


Do you know how many people have jobs that collect some form of welfare?




The working poor.....who in spite of working(sometimes 2 or three jobs) would be homeless or hungry without some help.

The other big chunk of the lazy "47%" are the elderly who can`t work and who are broke.Tax dodgers......every one of them.

I`m really surprised that the cons are going with last century`s talking points and last century`s myths and last century`s tactics of going supper negative on poor folks,making them villains.

Probably a product of Mitt`s age and when he grew up.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 6:38:33 AM   
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Well they are fucking the dog on this one, and not gonna sell one single pup.

Look, wasn't it the much vaunted St. Wrinklemeat that championed and signed the Earned Income Credit into law?  How many did that drop off the rolls?  Wasn't it the much vaunted republican congresses and presidents since and to this day that could only mouth the mantra, cut cut cut taxes and they did, and how many people did that drop off the rolls?

What the fuck GOP, as always, you are for it before you are against it.  What did you think would happen?  And dont try to sift some asswipe on us that it is the republicans looking out for the democrats and insuring that they dont pay taxes.

They point and hysterically mouth, Debt!!!  the entire nation points and says YOU! They point and hysterically mouth, No Jobs!!!! the entire nation points and says YOU!  They point and hysterically mouth, Tax Freeloaders!!! the entire nation points and says YOU! 

Laughable non-elitism in the GOP ranks.

It seems to me that the somebody over there should coordinate policy, or it may seem as if the Grand Old Party is floundering.   

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 8:33:29 AM   
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How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy?


All those Democrats, Republicans and Independents that have a job, collect a salary, and get back every dime of their federal income tax on their tax return - most of the 47% - are, apparently. Or have you changed your mind about that?

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 8:37:02 AM   
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The working poor.....who in spite of working(sometimes 2 or three jobs) would be homeless or hungry without some help.

The other big chunk of the lazy "47%" are the elderly who can`t work and who are broke.Tax dodgers......every one of them.



Oh, and don't forget students who work part-time. Clearly they're all lazy dependent victims for not working full-time to support themselves in addition to going to high school or college.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 9:36:12 AM   
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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 9:55:03 AM   
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From Mother Jones with five video clips.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/secret-video-romney-private-fundraiser

During a private fundraiser earlier this year, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney told a small group of wealthy contributors what he truly thinks of all the voters who support President Barack Obama. He dismissed these Americans as freeloaders who pay no taxes, who don't assume responsibility for their lives, and who think government should take care of them.


Yayyy Romney, theres gonna be far tooo many who will agree with him, but ouch....

Critical audio gap in "complete" Romney tape released by Mother Jones (Update - Corn responds, 1-2 minutes missing)
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David Corn of Mother Jones released the “complete” audio and video of the secretly recorded Mitt Romney speech at a private fundraiser.

Yet the complete audio and video is not complete. There is a gap in the recording immediately after Romney’s now famous discussion of the 47% of voters who don’t pay taxes. The cut in the audio and video comes while Romney is in mid-sentence, so we actually do not have the full audio of what Romney said on the subject.

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I found Corn’s email address, and he responded as follows:

According to the source, the recording device inadvertently turned off. The source noticed this quickly and turned it back one. The source estimates that one to two minutes, maybe less, of recording was missed.


Maybe Romney answer was "inelegant" only because Mother Jones didn't disclose that part of tape was missing

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Corn says that his source told him the recorder shut off on its own right in the middle of Romney’s answer, and then was not turned on until Romney already was into a different topic. We have no way of verifying that source’s story, but we do know that there were various edited pieces of the tape circulating prior to Corn’s involvement, so it is just as possible that Corn’s source or someone else handling the video prior to Corn edited out part of the answer.

It is impossible for us to know if Romney said something which changed or put the remarks in context. Romney doesn’t remember the event except for what exists on audio/video. Maybe in the fullness of the answer, the answer was less “inelegant” than it appears. Maybe Romney put some of the context on it that we have heard in his interviews the past two days.

What difference does it make?

Think how the initial 24 hours of controversy might have played out differently had Corn made the disclosure up front. That part of the answer was missing from the tape would have provided a valuable context both to readers/listeners, and to the Romney campaign. That never happened because there was no disclosure by Corn that part of the tape was missing.

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It also is unreasonable to expect Romney to correct an incomplete audio/video of a comment he did not remember making except for the existence of the audio/video. That’s why Romney asked for the complete answer to be released.


Smells a bit like a hatchet job.

Even so, it'll will make little difference in the election. The people who wouldn't vote for Romney because of this, wouldn't vote for him anyway.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 10:33:11 AM   
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Yeah, Nixon tapes.  Inelegant my ass, there ain't 48 hours of added tape save his ass from that fuckwaddery.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 11:46:30 AM   
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...and don't forget about the obese forty year old man I worked part time with at a bedding store, to earn the money to go to school, who told me his family had been on welfare for generations while hiding their working life and that he even pretended not to live with his wife and child so they could get more money from the Government since his wife was "abandoned" and needed more money to raise his children; He told me once when child welfare came by to check how he spent over an hour hiding under a bed so she would not see he was actually at home.

...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan.

Mitt was really talking about these people and how it must end (as Clinton sought to do when he was in office) or we as a Nation will collapse. He is right, this cannot continue no matter who gets elected. Who get elected will influence how it will end, as a Nation on it's way back to prosperity under Mitt or a total collapse with people starving and riots and something like New Orleans during Katrina with looting and violence only it happening nationwide.

That is the choice we have to make in November.




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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 11:50:39 AM   
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So, you got a anecdotal story, of dubious truth,  and of course ol Willard will ferret those 2-3 people out.

Great.   That'll save us untold billions.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 12:11:12 PM   
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THese stories I wrote are true and replicated now thousands or times or likely hundreds of thousands of times all over the nation and they are who Mitt was talking about. I suspect many of you have similar stories about people you have met who are not being safety netted and getting a hand while temporarily unemployed but are working the system to freeload or simply steal from taxpayers. In today's times they are stealing from taxpayers and from money Obama's administration is borrowing from China.

Come November, if the choice is Obama, then on November 3rd wealth will start flowing out of this Country like nothing seen before and many of those who are "the rich" will start leaving just as some already have, like the founder of Facebook. For those of us who don't wish to be around when American falls into the middle ages. This is why Romney was talking to those people about his plan to reverse the fall. But if Obama is reelected it spells the fall of America and for our own safety and our own good, many of us will leave, we will retire to areas of the world were our money will stay ours and not be "redistributed" and we no longer have to worry about owning gold or a self-defense weapon in preparation for the fall of the dollar and this nation.

Thailand and Brazil are some areas recommended.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/19/2012 12:12:26 PM   
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Yeah, Mitt was talking about those 47%.  Thanks for clearing it up.   Does Joe the Plumber fit our profile? 

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