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Ahhh but ryan...and walker, they turned down money for high speed rail which would have had the GM plant open under new ownership and kept another plant in Wisconsin open..

Now that is something I didnt know.

The Obama stimulus law included money for a Milwaukee to Madison high speed rail demonstration project with plans to eventually expand the line to be Chicago->Milwaukee->Madison->Mineapolis. The very first thing Walker did as Governor was cancel the project claiming it was too expensive for the state (the entire thing was 100% federally subsidized for at least a dacade).

A foreign company that builds high speed rail cars had bought a factory in Milwaukee and was gearing up for production. They closed shop and bough a facility in Illinois instead.

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Sorry, no. There were not enough riders to support it and the Wisconsin Governor therefore called it a "waste of taxpayer funds" and wanted the money spend somewhere more productive or returned to the Federal Government to pay down the, you guessed it, Obama's deficient.

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It's good to know the facts before voting.

Think.

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Ahhh but ryan...and walker, they turned down money for high speed rail which would have had the GM plant open under new ownership and kept another plant in Wisconsin open..

Now that is something I didnt know.

The Obama stimulus law included money for a Milwaukee to Madison high speed rail demonstration project with plans to eventually expand the line to be Chicago->Milwaukee->Madison->Mineapolis. The very first thing Walker did as Governor was cancel the project claiming it was too expensive for the state (the entire thing was 100% federally subsidized for at least a dacade).

A foreign company that builds high speed rail cars had bought a factory in Milwaukee and was gearing up for production. They closed shop and bough a facility in Illinois instead.

Sorry, no. There were not enough riders to support it and the Wisconsin Governor therefore called it a "waste of taxpayer funds" and wanted the money spend somewhere more productive or returned to the Federal Government to pay down the, you guessed it, Obama's deficient.

This is called being responsible. We will see more of it down the road or we will have railways to nowhere and a failed welfare state in which nobody has money or a need to ride a high speed (actually, it would have been medium speed) railway to a job they don't have now.

It's good to know the facts before voting.

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ROFL

1......... Yoo and Bybee claimed, and still claim, that the President has the constitutional power to override all laws, all legal limits on his authority. If that were so, the entire Bill of Rights could be nullified at the will of the President. Everyone, left and right, conservative and liberal, Tea Party types and ACLUers, should be chilled by and afraid of that prospect.

Yeah, dont see that happening.

2....... It would have to pass through both sides and then be signed... not likely to happen if dems retain either side.

3.......... That aint gonna happen with the health care law.

4......... lol... that aint gonna happen either.

But thank you for the walk through fantasy land.

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Ah.. now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Because NAFTA was in effect for the North Americas, businesses used that to expand their businesses into cheaper lands that had nothing to do with North American.

So, it was businesses who did it.. not Clinton. Thank you for confirming that fact.

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I know quite a few people that do not have health insurance and say they cannot afford it........but they could.

If they gave up stuff like

Owning half a dozen or more horses
" " dogs
" " cats
" " kids

Going on vacations every year
Thinking they need a new car every couple of years
Owning and racing cars
" " motorcycles
Competing in Demolition Derbys
Eating out 3-10 times a week
Buying coffee at the coffee place rather than brew it at home
Buying crap magazines(People, Equirer, etc) by the armloads
Buying crap to put into their bodies that only cause them to become more unhealthy (soda, cigarettes, junk food)
Buying fancy cell phones, big screen televisions, etc.

And the list goes on and on.

The above list are things that I have seen, with my own eyes, from people I know personally. People that say they cannot afford to pay for health insurance. People that go running to the ER when they get sick and blow off paying anything for the services they've gotten. People that dive for the paperwork to get Title 19, or whatever it is, to help pay the bill......then welch on whatever is left. People that would sooner file bankruptcy than try to pay off a few thousand dollar (or more) medical bill.

Hell, I know someone that bought a $30,000.00 motorcycle, then totalled it a month or so after it was purchased. He had no health insurance and had a $65,000.00 medical bill (last I heard......still not finished) Guess how much he will end up paying........ZERO!!!!!!!! Because he still qualifies for government aid.

Yay for the current system!!! Booo for a system that forces people to take some personal responsibility. Ya.......cuz yanno, we just gotta hate on those people that don't pay taxes. Well, the person with the $65,000.00 and counting medical bill does pay taxes. But I seriously doubt the taxes he pays will hit the $65,000.00 mark anytime soon.

In a lot of ways I get the old school Repub ideals......unfortunately they've gone so far off the rails there isn't a one of them left I would vote for. They have fucked themselves by refusing to be realistic.

Not sure where you live but here you can't do anything of the sort. The Hospital comes after you for each and every dime up to and including garnishing wages.......

And you can avoid the bill simply by tossing it into the trash.....or declaring bankruptcy.

It's done every day.

For a business "owner" you don't seem to know a whole lot. Do you know what garnishing wages means?

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Yes Tazzy....it was business that did the actual physical act of moving businesses to foreign shores, not in fact the President (see...he runs the country....not GE....it was in all the papers)....he simply made it cost effective with his pen.

Now I feel the need to apologize to everyone who reads books and printed words, that I actually had to explain this to another human

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Obama raises taxes on 6 MILLION uninsured Middle Class Americans

Yeah but "middle class" is people making $250,000/year -- Romney 'splained it to me.

Interesting....I'm pretty sure that's the very same number Obama used as "middle class", "not going to get a tax increase" because of....(etc.).

Then I'm pretty sure you're nuts.

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And who sent those jobs overseas? hmm?

Uhhhh.....that would be Clinton.

Oh so Clinton TOLD all those businesses to send their jobs overseas.

Wow.

Uh huh....that's exactly right. It was (and is) called the "North American Free Trade Agreement".

"NAFTA".

(You're welcome to look it up).

It was his opinion that if Mexico, China, India and others were making as much as we were....they could afford OUR products (much like Ford's opinion to double wages for his employees, realizing that if his own employees couldn't afford his product....there didn't seem to be much logic in producing it....and 6 weeks later he had 35,000 men show up asking for a job).

Ergo, our exports would increase.

It's actually a very logical edict.

And yes, that was Clinton who gave us this.

(If I recall...they actually have a word for this kind of dissemination.....I think it's called "reading"....also occasionally referred to as "being aware of the facts").

That's your guy isn't it? Clinton....a Democrat?

Yeah...right....ok...enjoy :)

For a business "owner" you don't seem to understand business very well. NAFTA...was the north american free trade agreement. China and India aren't in North America....with me so far?