Alecta
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Descrite, I'm not from around here. I am a third of the way from passing the mark where I've lived in the Western hemisphere longer than I have been in the Eastern Hemisphere. I have not, however, spent significant amounts of time in the extreme Southern nor Northern hemispheres and my real time experience with the "Old Country" is not as extensive as I would like. However, I greatly disagree with your analysis regarding non American men being lazy. In my experience, it has been quite the opposite although I would expand the demograph to "North American". I will grant however that there are certain middling global demographs that come a close second. In Asian countries such as China. costs of living is so high and the challenges towards earning a living wage in a modern job are such that both partners are forced to work out of need, not because one or the other refuses to pull their weight. In other Eastern countries, in the greater majority of cases, the woman has motherly and home-making responsibilities thrust upon her on top of her career because the man will not touch them. "Enlightened" Eastern countries are all facing the ageing population because given the freedom to choose the kind of life they want to lead and the society they want to live in free of traditions and expectations in the last decade or so (some earlier than others), the women have overwhelmingly chosen to lead their own lives and pursue their own careers over marriage, children and a frilly home (that hubby bought. They still like frilly homes, but they want to buy it themselves). Did that backfire on you a little bit? ;) Now let us discuss less "open" eastern countries where people are still influenced to a large extent by patriarchal traditions; the same traditions that teach that the woman's place is in the home, raising children, taking care of her husband. Observe how given an opportunity, the women will do everything and anything she can to escape that utopia of the "home country" where men are expected to give them that life of "home, marriage, kids". If this life is the universal deep feminine desire, and a society where this is the norm is the triumph of feminine wishes over masculine needs, why are so many women so desperate to leave it behind? Bearing in mind the issue discussed is not a comparison of productivity, but the desire for the white picket fence. Regarding the 1950s comment, yes, the question was how do you explain that the 1950s lifestyle was perpetrated by men and in vanilla world connotative of a man's wet dream and a woman's nightmare? And no, I think you will find that you are wrong with the guarantee. You forget that the man In Charge may not desire the same luxuries that he enjoys be given to other men. In fact, there are rampant examples of it everywhere throughout history and geography. Don't make me dig up your harem porn for you :p (ETA: my math regarding my age/travels was off.)
< Message edited by Alecta -- 10/6/2012 7:32:36 PM >
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