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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/19/2012 11:09:28 PM

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I highly doubt the validity of it too, to be honest.

Thanks for being honest, but do you really believe millions of people are lying to you?
People used to claim that gay people were all simultaneously just pretending to be gay. "You're not really gay, you're just acting, for attention. Admit it, you're attracted to the opposite sex just like everybody else!" Don't fall into that line of thinking. There's no motive for tens of millions of people to lie and say they can orgasm on command. It isn't a massive conspiracy. It's actually real.

I don't want to believe there are people out there who eat poo, and I've never seen it happen, but I'm pretty sure there are.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/19/2012 11:34:16 PM

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Love the thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

So yer, must be possible... At least for guys

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/19/2012 11:51:54 PM

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Millions of people can orgasm on command?

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/19/2012 11:58:03 PM

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I have done this with a few women I have dated. Its not some magic trick, its just working with a woman's largest sexual organ (her mind) and simple operant conditioning.

In my experiences, the submissive in question, has been in a committed relationship and we have had real life contact in almost all of the times I have done this. My wife didn't believe me either. Nor did she believe in multiple orgasms. (yes smug).

As to put your hand on the desk and cum, I don't know that would work, but standing in line at a theater and whispering her trigger words.. (big grin) yes its quite fun.

If you are looking for someone to FORCE you to have orgasms with his super masterly dom-o-matic gaze, that's not what is happening. Hell yes its VANITY. It is a total and completely awesome part of the dynamic.

Having to ask for permission to cum, is part of the dynamic. If you have ever enjoyed that you are 3/4th of the way to the rest. One girl we dated had problems with achieving any orgasm. It took time but she was quite surprised when it 'worked' on her.

Trust, a huge part of any dynamic, is vital. She was scared of never being able to cum. It took time for her to relax and trust the process. Time to also understand that she wasn't performing, if it happened it happened.

To specifically address the posters who don't believe, your right. I could NEVER have you cum on command. You don't trust me and would find it hard to relax at all.

If there is someone you trust and have incorporated experienced orgasm denial into your service.... try expressing that interest to them.

Interestingly enough, some of the quickest 'learners' where women "new to the life". I think it was a combination of pent up desires, and also the complete trust that some new submissives give to Doms. (they ascribe all their fantasy powers to a DOM... its only later as they learn and grow that they realize the power was coming from them.)

YMMV,

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 12:29:45 AM

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Nope, never been able to do it and I expect I never will.

One previous partner tried to 'train' me to orgasm on command, starting by telling me not to cum while we were having sex, and then saying 'cum for me'. All that achieved for me was no orgasm. Tell me not to cum and that's what I'll do. There is no brink to hover over, the orgasm is gone. Tell me to cum? Then you're going to have to start all over again to get me to the point of orgasm.

That's not to say I don't orgasm - I do. I have multiple orgasms. But not if someone is trying to verbally dictate to me what I need to do. That's just kills it for me.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 1:35:00 AM

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Personally, I can't orgasm from a single word. However the concept, as I understand it, I accomplish quite often with my Dom. He'll call me in the morning, and I know I'm not supposed to touch myself. He'll walk me through a scenario, there are a few different ones.. some involve pain, some do not. I will be able to orgasm and sometimes even "gush" during this phone session. We've also been able to accomplish this face to face without physical stimulation of any kind. I don't really understand it myself... not sure how, or why it even happens. I just know that he is aware of what mental buttons need to pushed to get me to that point. It's actually very cool and I have to say that we both enjoy it alot. It has to be a full scenario though... none of this one word trigger stuff. I'll often participate in this, answering questions for example. although when I get to a certain point, all I can really do is stutter. I think it strokes his ego a bit and I love that I can give that to him.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 1:45:25 AM

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i personally think it's a load of crap to tickle some guys ego.

i can cum very very quickly, it doesn't take much for him to make me cum at all really. however, without any physical stimulation at all it's not going to happen. he also gets my mind going in a big way, but him just telling me to cum on command is not going to happen.

i have a friend who has never had an orgasm with any guy she has been with, but they would never know that.

i have seen guys in porn cum 'hands free' as they call it, but it's not on voice command. as for millions of people....but let's face it we are talking women here, not trigger quick guys, and we work differently to you guys......hogswash. i seriously doubt there there are more than a couple of women that could do this. i'm willing to bet that 99.99999999% of those who say they can are stoking some large ego's.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 2:06:16 AM

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The one word trigger comes from getting you back into that headspace. In talking about the results we sometimes skip the process. The voice aspect is more the trigger to release what you have built on before. So if saying cum for me ruins it, simply try asking now.. now now. being forced to hold it for a few seconds before release is part of the fun.

My wife gave me the same "sure and I bet they told you that you where the first one as well" line when we discussed this. After dating for a while I reminded her of her cynicism and made her cum over and over during that day. It may never happen for you, but as long as you are not approaching it as a test, you will enjoy finding out.

YMMV,

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 6:51:23 AM

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Ahhh, the lilone cums on command all the time.

Of course, it's usually after I've been fucking her for an hour or so :-)

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 7:22:36 AM

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Yes, it's possible in the female. I have no experience with males in terms of a verbal only command. (Most male orgasm control is based on denial and chastity, as opposed to coming on command. Of course, if you know how to massage the prostate, you can get a male to do whatever you want.)

In any case, most doms who like this idea are clueless as to how to achieve it. What follows is a post I made on the subject a little over a year ago.

Orgasm control is one of those things that if done right, is a fantastic bonding experience. If done wrong, it's NOT. You could easily end up with a non-orgasmic sub.

Sooooooooooooo, OP, show this to your dom please.

The number one rule of orgasm control is: know (w/o a doubt) when your sub is about to climax.

Pay attention to all the little minor things that lead to an orgasm, as well as the ones that don't.

The important thing for a male dominant to understand about orgasm control in the female, is that the dom has to train himself. The female just goes along with his program and obeys.

Chose a orgasm command that your sub likes and will respond to. "Come for me" is a favorite.

In the beginning phases of orgasm control DO NOT do any orgasm withholding, any edging (bring to the edge of orgasm and then backing off), NONE of that. Start out with:
Once you are positive your sub is about to climax (in other words, it's happening with or w/o you), give the command.

If she doesn't come, you keep up stimulating activity and say it again (as if it's all part of the same command.). Realize you will never be good at orgasm control if you use any negative reinforcement whatsoever. It's all positive reinforcement.

Once you can predict your sub's orgasms 100% of the time, now you get to move on to some very mild edging. So bring her to the edge, back off (different things work for different people -- pain may back me off, a maso might come on the spot). Back off once. If she starts to come, give the command. If you can bring her back up, do so.

Rinse and repeat until you are really really good at getting her to back off once. And yeah, this takes time and infinite patience. It also takes LOTS of orgasms, so it's all good.

Once you have master the above, you can move on to withholding longer a/o edging 2-3 times. Few people will last past 3 times. Realize no matter how observant you are, she will come when you least expect it. Just give the command.

Many people into this type of control like to fool around with "don't come yet" which can be all yummy once you have orgasm control down and know it won't stop the climax in it's tracks. Be very very careful with this. Remember, subs like to be obedient. Loss of patience at this step could mean you have trained your sub NOT to come.

It has been my experience that all of the above training will be much easier of you can keep up a hot sexy conversation with your sub. Just enough to keep her out of deep sub space so she is actually aware of your commands.

Good luck to you both.

Chatte

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 7:24:01 AM

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I can orgasm without physical stimulation. I've orgasmed from reading a mildly saucy text. I can also orgasm from pretty much anywhere on my body. I can orgasm just from handling a penis. Being forty-something is awesome.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 8:36:24 AM

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HEH.... there you go.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

Ahhh, the lilone cums on command all the time.

Of course, it's usually after I've been fucking her for an hour or so :-)

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 8:50:53 AM

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I believe it's possible as a result of hypnosis. Whether one wants to call it "hypnosis" or not. I do think it takes training and suggestion, familiarity and time, as well as one being subject to hypnosis in the first place.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 10:22:44 AM

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The guy I am no longer involved with as his sub, I think this totally would have been possible but it was never tested.
I am not an easy one to get to the point at anytime, some kind of mind block, but with him, somehow this mind block was lifted, and I totally believe it was possible. Yet I will never know.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 11:19:02 AM

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I need physical stimulation from HIM. I can't make myself orgasm. It doesn't work for me and I can't cum just from his voice. Yeah, I can get wet and excited but I don't cum.

I orgasm on command just like he said....when having sex for an hour and not being allowed to until I beg and beg and when he says yes. Until then, it's just sheer torture.

ETA: As for men, I have seen men ejaculate from just seeing a beautiful girl who he is too afraid to talk to and men watching porn. It seems pretty easy to me for them. Men seem to be able to cum from no stimulation other than their mind.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 12:03:48 PM

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So - hypothetically - say your owner is on a business trip and he/she calls you and tells you to sit, put both hands, palms down flat upon a table. And then tells you to cum. Could you do it? No stimulation - none.

Mate, I could put my hands on the table right now and, with no *outside* stimulation - not even an order - I could cum. Theoretically, all women could.

I starred the word 'outside' because no woman lacks stimulation - she has the sensation of her own vaginal walls pressing against each other, and her cervix - these are powerfully senstive parts and it should not be news to anyone that stimulation of these areas can make a great many woman orgasm. If the pressure of a vagina on a cock makes it orgasm, why is it so surprising that the pressure of a vagina upon itself should be any less pleasurable? It is also worth knowing that the clitoris, which is often mistakenly thought to be a little bump at the top of the pubis, is actually a large, fist shaped organ which wraps around the entire length of the vagina, and runs between the anal and vaginal wall. When a woman squeezes on herself, she is stimulating her own clitoris, whether she knows it or not.

What people completely forget, even women, is that these parts are capable of being stimulated, internally, all the time, by the woman's own anatomy. You only have to look at a woman shuddering and screwing up her face as she performs kegel exercises to realise that actually, most women might be able to bring themselves to orgasm without any hands at all. I know this because I have a strange way of masturbating that has never used hands. I lie on my front and push my pelvis forward, and this causes a sensation inside that is mmmm - it's the only type of orgasm I've ever given myself.

What happens for a lot of submissives is that their Dominant turns them on to such a degree, and they feel so physically owned by their dominant, that mentally they've given up control to them. When a dominant tells them to orgasm, it is such a turn on for them that their vagina and cervix spasm; this happens with arousal all the time anyway, but in this case it is stronger and it feels more powerful. The spasm causes the submissive to go into an orgasm, just like the ones I've been having most of my life.

The reason that male submissives cannot do this should be obvious - there is nothing pressing against their penis.

For anyone wanting to increase their chances of being able to orgasm on command - kegels, lots of them!

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 12:22:02 PM

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Actually, I think being able to orgasm on command without outside physical stimulus is about much more than:

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the sensation of her own vaginal walls pressing against each other,

Orgasm for me, as for most females, is far more emotional than it is physical. This is why it is much more satisfying for me to orgasm with my partner than to masturbate.

You hear a lot about dominants who want to "train" the submissive to come on command, really it is the dominant who is being trained. Getting a submissive to orgasm on command even with outside stimulus takes a great deal of patience and practice.

I think it take a very deep emotional bond, as well as a dominant capable of creating a Pavlovian response to the orgasm trigger word or phrase.

Once you are moving to orgasm w/o outside stimulus, first you have to realize some females will never be able to do this. Some dominants won't have the patience to get them there. I'm not sure I would liken it to hypnosis, but certainly a degree of suggestibility has to be involved in the same way that it is with hypnosis.

For those who don't believe this can and does happen, I will only refer you to the power of the human brain over the human body.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 12:26:29 PM

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I once did pictures for a sub who came without any stimulation other than my normal photographer's voice. He was most embarrassed. I certainly did not do anything out of the ordinary that I was aware of.

Husband "makes" girls cum on command... usually by commanding them to right when they're about to do it anyway ;p

Most legitimate regimes to train someone to orgasm on command are a form of hypnosis, so it'll only work on those who are susceptible to that in the first place.

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 1:09:46 PM

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Sooooooooooooo, OP, show this to your dom please.

He's a heart surgeon. He doesnt have time for this kind of thing. Also - we're not into this kind of thing.

It was more or less something I keep seeing on the other side -----> with Male Doms advertising that this is something that they can do.

Ive been noticing something though - I see a lot of guys saying they can do this with their female subs.
As Ive said before - females have an easier time of "faking" it.

So - if its so easy for guys to get "these" female subs to cum on w/o stimulation, why arnt there any guys that speak out that they can cum on demand? Since it seems to be claimed that its all in the mind anyways?

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RE: Orgasm by command - 10/20/2012 1:21:31 PM

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To be honest I have always felt that the women who claim they can cum on command I have been skeptical. I figure either they are not sure what an orgasm is because they never had one before or it's a very very minor orgasm. There used to be women on another bdsm site that said they could cum just from a breeze. Yeah ok.

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